IDEAS FOR RYZOM

#43 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago  

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The reason KC was creatyed any why so many of us invested our time and effort helping arc refine and improve it is that you can spend an inordinate amount of time seeking out and finding mats that ultimately have no interest or value to you.

Sure you can search it out on your own if that's your thing .... kinda like just randomly choosing restaurants or vacations spots versus using restaurant or travel guides. Or just jumping on the road "to go somehwere" or choosing a destination and using a map. Sometimes it's fun to do that, but that doesn't in any way reduce the value of a map.

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#44 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago  

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i like kipee craft, i have it, i use it, it gives me ideas, but even KC tells me i'll need this and that and x number to make this and that, what if i want to outfit say 10 toons with the same sets of HA, so what i have to dig/hunt enough for 5 craft those then do it all again, what if there's a RP deadline? (i don't do RP much) what if it's a craft mission grind, and i go to all the HA mission giving overseers and get all the ha missions at once, then go to my apt to make the armor, will my apt as is right now hold all the mats for the 15 or 20 missions that i'll get?

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#45 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago  

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On Arispotle I ran a HA Mats Bank. I put all my HA mats in GH (Sup Tama, Glue, Irin, Silverweed) that I dug. As peeps collected their mats, they could put 260 mats from that list in any combination and I would make up what they were missing. At any given time, there was always 5 or 6 sets in Apt and always cupla thousand mats in GH.

I understand your examples, but how many peeps ever found themselves in a position to make 10 saets in one sitting ? I have not heard of any such game imposed deadlines. Why must you craft in apartment ? These ar all "self imposed" limits, not game limits.

I don't really use vendor storage. I keep a mektoub near a hawker in all 4 above ground regions. I dig a bag / mek full of mats, I craft off the mats and put HA on vendors.... . Rinse and repeat just one time and I got 12. Not really a problem. I know other peeps that store 10k mats on vendors, then stand at stables and craft....thats 46 sets of HA.

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#46 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago  

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one thing i can say freddy, your teaching me ways to get what i want without getting what i want, and i like that, if others looking for what i want read what you and other's have told me, they'll also find the ways to get what they wanted as well, so while i keep saying things on this, and hopping to one day get it, i'm learning ways to do just what i want to do without ever getting it, so while it hopeless to want this upgrade, it's not hopeless to find ways to do just the things i want.

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#47 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago  

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Yes, that's why I think you will see support from new players but the vets ill be wishy washy cuz they have figured other, many times more convenient ways, to do same thing.

..... There are more than a few ways to skin a varynx

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#48 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago  

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well after we skin the cat, are we making taco's? (yummy! varnix taco's)

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Remickla (atys)

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#49 Added by Fyranna 1 decade ago  

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This, like the one for the Guild Hall is important. Sometime 4 Mektoubs and an Apt just not enough.

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#50 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago  

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still would like to see this added, using the merchaint fails to fix this, u must continually re-buy everything, and it's useless for gear because you cant sell used items. also, there are players that will buy you stuff even when you ONLY wanted to store it.

i still see no reason we cant have this. i'm still waiting for one, IF there is one.

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#51 Added by Gidget 1 decade ago  

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Many of the alts and guilds (and their GHs) exist solely for storage because we don't have enough space. And being in a guild with ~150 people makes it worse as we have a lot more need for space than a 20-toon guild.

Space is a *SERIOUS* issue, and the constant logging and shuffling, and creating alts just to have storage not only inconveniences the players, but probably isn't exactly kind to the servers either.

We already have ideas for pricing, and I think this is one of those things that is a high enough priority that we should build a time machine to fix it years ago. Sure, I'd like more rites and more content, but I think solving the space issue (and the resulting population boom in alts and alt guilds/GHs) should come first.

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#52 Added by Virg 1 decade ago  

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150 people.. and how many are inactive?

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#53 Added by Binarabi 1 decade ago  

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150!!!
Where are they all when we have kami/kara battles??

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#54 Added by Virg 1 decade ago  

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Must be busy getting stuff out of their numerous alt GHs!

The point is Gidget you clearly don't have 150 active players. I would say at a guess below 20 active members. Being in a large guild I can understand space is a constraint- and I believe it should be a constraint.

If you want more space alt guild halls aren't too much of a bother to use. I do not see space as an issue that requires fixing, let alone something that should take priority over new content. On top of that if they did make more space available you can guarantee people will just max that space out very quickly and be asking for more space saying that there once again isn't enough space for all their hoarding.

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#55 Added by Gidget 1 decade ago  

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Binarabi (atys)

150!!!
Where are they all when we have kami/kara battles??

Well, I'm usually at work for those (I have odd hours), and we have quite a few in other time zones. I rarely see more than about 20 on at one time. And, of course, different people at different times. But even if we assume only 50 active, that's still a lot of mats/equipment that needs storing; more than a guild of 15-20 would need.

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#56 Added by Gidget 1 decade ago  

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Virg (atys)

Must be busy getting stuff out of their numerous alt GHs!

The point is Gidget you clearly don't have 150 active players. I would say at a guess below 20 active members. Being in a large guild I can understand space is a constraint- and I believe it should be a constraint.

If you want more space alt guild halls aren't too much of a bother to use. I do not see space as an issue that requires fixing, let alone something that should take priority over new content. On top of that if they did make more space available you can guarantee people will just max that space out very quickly and be asking for more space saying that there once again isn't enough space for all their hoarding.

First, I'd say it's at least double that, though you're correct that probably about half are inactive. And yes, there is a lot of shuffling. Sometimes a frustrating amount of logging as a result.

As for your second point, they're a bit more of a hassle for those that only have one subbed account, but I take your point about just asking for more space. As you may have guessed, it's a chronic enough issue to really get under my skin. Maybe I was a little strong, but it also seems like something that would be quick and (relatively) easy to fix, and I'm the type of person who likes getting the quick-and-easy done ASAP just to reduce the number of things I have to deal with.

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#57 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago  

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One reason I don't want to see this is it will only lead to more hoarding. I don't want to create a 1 %'ers class on Ryzom :)

When servers were closing pre-merge I watched and chuckled while several players ground off thousands of sups that had been stored in mutliple GHs. What was the point of keeping them there all those years ? I knew one player, who if to be believed, stated that he had over 25,000 sup mats.... in a one man guild.

What is the purpose of hoarding that much material ? To be prepared for a Guild influx of 50 nekid masters who need a complete kit ? To keep them away from others ?

Yes, mule'ing stuff from one toon to another is a PITA....it's suppossed to be.

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