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#43 Added by Amiko 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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Return the Pre-merge material locations. ALL of them, not only PR.

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#44 Added by Bitttymacod 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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But Amiko -- I *like* the new locations in Void. :))

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#45 Added by Seawe 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

#46 Added by Minou 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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Looking like this survey is going to give us no answer.. unless we consider bitttymacod's suggestion that option 2 and 3 are really the same..

I do find it reather curious that whenever one option takes the lead, another is catching up. I do hope the devs are watching out for level 1 toons voting, or looking at the incoming IP addresses (not very reliable for unique votes either).

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~minou

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#47 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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I agree that 2 and 3 are basically close and are most probably implying a "not 1" decision. And I agree further that there is a lot of cheating in the voting process.

It would be quite hard to set up "rights to vote". A possibility would be to allow subbed only, though I would not feel well about. A further one would be excluding all accounts created after the start of the poll. But that would have worked once, now fake accounts are in existance - most probably many preexisted such as the lvl1 toons cheating with occupation special products.

Best solution would be an open vote. Then, numerous methods to manipulate would be visible to the publc.

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#48 Added by Meagon 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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I'm curious to know how the Devs are going to weigh this poll. According to earlier claims there is one vote per accounts so that means just shy of 500 accounts voted which seems a bit unrealistic to me.

Also with the votes so close between #1 and #3 pretty much half the population would be unhappy with the change back to the old ways.

We've gone through so much change throughout the merge and we have taken the time to adjust to these drastic changes. Creating new maps for the mats, adjusting to the new economy, learning to live with 3 different communities. I've learned to accept the new style of ryzom and by reverting back one MAJOR aspect of the merge I feel like it is undermining the entire principle of adjustment.

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Meagy :)
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#49 Added by Wiklar 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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Meagon, you not absolutely right because also 88 more accountuser vote for the old source type. The reason for that is, because the souces atm are realy not what most players wanted.

For me more people are unhappy with the crap we have atm and do not want to wait for a fix and so without an eta.

And on the voting is nothing unrealistic for me. I vote and i have a fullaccount, bingo.
Happy that nr3 wins :)))

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#50 Added by Dinorath 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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changing again will be another slap in the face, but hey, we are used to accept whatever bone they throw at us, so, no big deal right?

good luck if you think the old way will be better after the merge. the bug will be there, and if you're not the first one to get to the zun spot, you wont find even excel anymore.

#51 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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For weighing the vote I would suggest
- discarding all votes from accounts created after start of the poll
- discarding all votes from accounts with less than 48 login hours for any character
- weighing votes from f2p accounts half the vote from subbed accounts

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#52 Added by Minou 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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That's a good idea as far as accounts created after the vote not counting at all.. sure maybe 1 or 2 legtimate players are not counted, but I seriously doubt that people with 4 weeks experience have had enough exposure to PR for it to affect them much (if at all).

Also as far as account with no play time.. they are likely not players (but alts or vote shills), and again, no tgoing to be an issue that should affect them..

Free accounts half votes? Not sure, but it's not really in the interest of the game to weigh the paid accounts and free accounts the same either. Servers don't operate on good will , but cash... so perhaps not a bad suggestion (I'm somewhat torn on it, some free players keep the game alive by word of mouth and enthusiasm just as much as the rest of us).

As Meagon indicates, this is not a very conclusive vote.. I can work with the current situation.. but I don't care either way if things change again, so be it, heck there's still some mats I haven't had the time to track or find yet...

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~minou

High Officer, Spiritus Artificis
Former Officer, High Officer and Leader, Reapers of the Dark

#53 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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no kidding, and have an idea and try to get someone that can do something with it give you some feedback, that's a total joke too, who and what the "hello" am i paying for, wait that's right a game, and they even ask for ideas from the player base. lolx

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#54 Added by Seawe 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

#55 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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It is as boring as leaving them where they are now. The locations are all charted, most published on bmsite.

My feeling is that some of the larger guilds who feel to have a head start in exploration are anxious to lose this advantage, Hence the agitation and the attempts to manipulate the poll.

I would have liked version 2. New exploration without the negative consequences of the regrouping.

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#56 Added by Seawe 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

#57 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago Report | Quote 

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Yes, I know. "Some of us" are better than the others, and who doesn't share their views is boring and lazy. I found most of the PR locations I know (before as well as after the merge) without reference to spoiler sites, yet I cannot say that I found a widely malfunctioning arrangement a major challenge. Much less I consider it really more complex, just not so good a choice even if the bug would not exist.

And I still mourn nexus as a site of sup materials, and hope it to be reinstated, no matter with which grouping of sources.

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