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#32

First of all, thanks for the extensions, they are great.

The problems I recently encountered, do not deal with fame. Rather some regions refuse to update. First is Hush Hole in Lagoons of Loria. I spent there over 40 minutes, 5 saves and about 100 killed kipestas until my bag was full and I gave up. I spent another hour approximately in Darkmoor - also no update.

Edit: Now I have a fame problem. Though my Kami and Karavan Fame are both 50, none of them has been recognized.

Edit #2:Fame and DP count updated now, as well as Dapper count.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Daomei (1 decade ago)

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#33

crisis proof no longer tracking my "bank", still not triggering in lost valley, void, witherings.

keep up the killer work, love them yobo points, i want a high score, lolx.

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#34

Hiho!

Well, that's gonna be a longer post ^^

Irfidel
- Is it on purpose that players can switch Faction/Civilization settings on the achievement web pages? Is it not possible for the system to get that information automatically from the game?
Your current standing should be selected by default. Switching Civ/Cult allows you to view the achievements that are available to the selected combination. That way you have access to all of your progress since changing alignments ingame does not reset the achievements.

Irfidel
- Since we _are_ able to select manually, I've played around with the selections a bit. There's a different number of tribes depending e.g. on the civilization alignment. While that may correctly reflect the possibilities for a character it also means that homins can achieve a different number of yubo points depending on their alignment. Now this is a hard-to-implement request: Would it be possible to balance the yubo point numbers in a way that a homin can always achieve the same maximum number of yubo points irrespective of any alignments? Would this be desirable anyway?
Indeed, alignment affects the amount of yubopoints obtainable. It ranges from 1000 to 1220 (not counting the meta achievements available to everyone). I think it would be very hard to balance the system so that everyone would have the same amount of points. It is simply no built for such a thing.

There are 2415 points in total in the fame category. Since you can always chose to change your ingame alignments it is theoretically possible to get them all, although hardly anyone will actually do that.

Irfidel
- Another topic on balancing: Lots of achievements are triggered either by fame or by skill. It seems most achievements yield 10 or 15 points. I must admit I haven't done detailed calculations, but I feel that with grinding tribe fame a lot more yubo points can be collected than with exploring the countryside. I am undecided if that would be a good or bad thing. Just curious: Do you have an eye on balancing achievable yubo points for different play styles? Would it make sense to have a greater variety on points? One example could be to increase the luck based points for the rare occasion of winning the lottery prices. But then, others probably complain about luck playing too big a part in these points.
I must admit, that that's a topic I haven't given much thought. But anyhow, you are right, the points really have a balancing problem. Currently we have:
total fame:		2415
total skills: 1180
total exploration: 640

I'll probably reduce some achievements to only award 5 instead of 10 points and maybe increase some in the exploration category. I hope I'll have a solution before christmas. Thx for posting!

Byrana
2 bugs :
Get a item q300 : max q is 290, and linked to event mob, so far none has been poped since merge, si this achievement can't be complete
Thx for noticing. Changed the achievement to q290 now.

Byrana
Playtime achievement has no description in french
Fixed.
Byrana
The "Doubtfully Undecided" asks for 100 in both kami and karavan fame, which is currently impossible, as the max for undeclared is 50. Is this a bug, or does it want you to declare for one side, get to 100, then declare for the other and max it all the way back?
Like Talkirc explained correctly, the achievements to not require all objectives to be completed at the same time.
I moved the achievement "Doubtfully Undecided" to the Heroic Deeds category now. That means it will only show up if it is completed and reward no points any longer.

Daomei
The problems I recently encountered, do not deal with fame. Rather some regions refuse to update. First is Hush Hole in Lagoons of Loria. I spent there over 40 minutes, 5 saves and about 100 killed kipestas until my bag was full and I gave up. I spent another hour approximately in Darkmoor - also no update.

Edit: Now I have a fame problem. Though my Kami and Karavan Fame are both 50, none of them has been recognized.

Edit #2:Fame and DP count updated now, as well as Dapper count.
Talkirc
crisis proof no longer tracking my "bank", still not triggering in lost valley, void, witherings.
The achievements tracking was down for a while which should explain the problems. Sorry for that... I hope it will not happen too often in the future.



Ok, that should be all now ^^
Yours Cotare

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#35

Due to a bug, I had to reset "Not Again...!". Sorry.

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#36

Thanks, Cotare, for the explanations, adjustments, and fixes! Makes sense to me :-)

#37

I disabled "Not Again ... !" again... it is still bugged and tracking wrong values. The amount given is way to much because of an error in the equasion.

I am very sorry about this, since quite a few players are farming dp for the achievement. Anyhow, I'll have to reset the achievement again after finally fixing it.

I'll keep you posted on updates, but it might take a few days since I am at my parent's over christmas.

Once again... SORRY!

Yours Cotare

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#38

paramount stock in void, witherings not triggering, nor is the lost valley, have spent whole night's afk in both locations for hours on end, please look into for me and the rest of atys, as it's all that's holding me up for witherings now.

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#39

cotare, might i ask is there a list for all the things that will trigger under heroic deeds? i would love to know what all is triggered as that would give an idea of things to do in game, i feel the yobo points are good content to the game, i'm after as many as i can get, anyway, there's always in-game e-mail.

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Remickla (atys)
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#40

Three related feature ideas for the achievements:
- Track special titles
- Track special events
- Repeatable achievements

Disclaimer: The below proposal may involve a lot of work. Since I don't know the internals of the system(s) involved I cannot judge the amount of work. Still I'd like to play this idea in a discussion.

Indirectly, the normally available titles are already tracked: Upon reaching a certain level in a skill, an achievement is reached and yubo points are awarded. This correlates to titles for homins such as "Apprentice Fighter", "Destroyer", etc. The same applies to some other special in game titles such as "Glueckspilz" or "Pechvogel" (Wheel of fortune titles, pardon me for not knowing the exact english phrasing in-game).
In addition to these there are a lot more special in game titles, most actually given out due to achievements in events. A non event example would be "Elder of Atys". Event examples are (again German) "Kitinjaeger-Neuling" (the Kitin hunter series, a long running "event"), the titles awarded due to hunting the pumpkins, and the christmas trees ("Segensfestbaumschmueckerin"). This is topped of by the titles given manually by the event team for e.g. telling stories, or being part of the Atys political system ("Erleuchtete", "Akenak", etc.)
Maybe the achievement system could tap into the system that manages the titles (it seems there are two systems now) and award special yubo points for those.
Some titles are fleeting and vanish after one year, imho the correlated achievement and yubo points should remain.

As a future enhancement the yearly titles could trigger "repeat achievements": If someone tells stories every year at the Anlor Win (Halloween) event, then that's worth an achievement every year in my opinion. Repeat achievements could also given out for those who slay Aen and her marauding colleagues, or for killing 100 Kipuckas, etc. But triggering achievements based on monster, and even player kill ("kill your first lvl250 player") is an entirely different matter.

All of these could provide more motivation for and rewarding for people to participate in roleplay activities.


Related to trigger achievements based on titles, it would also be nice for lower level players to at least get some achievements out of the yearly hunts for eggs, presents, christmas trees, pumpkins, flames and the likes. Usually the event awards trigger only at a very high level of completion. For beginners and intermediate players it would be nice if you get some achievements. E.g. if there are 80 flames to find with 20 in each country, then we could have achievements for finding all flames, finding all flames in one country, finding 80/60/40/20/10/1 flame. The yubo points could be balanced either linearly to effort involved or even progressively (higher flame count will yield higher yubo points per flame than lower).

The biggest problem may be to hook up the achievements to ever changing ARCC event scripts. But someone also has to draw the gfx, balance yubo points and be creative.

As I said before, lot of work. What do you think?

#41

hi there,

In french interface,
Exploration >> primes roots

There is two times "Les Sources Interdites" area.

The first one should be "Profondeurs Interdites"

Last edited by Zendae (1 decade ago)

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#42

For Exploration of the Burning Dunes--> Dunes of Exile, Dyron HIll is not registering. Tried three times, made sure I was in the proper spot.

Also Thesos Fall Tor, Lucenthead Hurst in Outlaw Canyon and Barkers Dune in Sawdust Mines aren't working for me either.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Byrana (1 decade ago)

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#43

Paramount Stock still seems not to be registering.

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#44

Byrana (atys)
For Exploration of the Burning Dunes--> Dunes of Exile, Dyron HIll is not registering. Tried three times, made sure I was in the proper spot.

Also Thesos Fall Tor, Lucenthead Hurst in Outlaw Canyon and Barkers Dune in Sawdust Mines aren't working for me either.

I have Burning Desert finished - so all of them should register...
Dyron Hill was bitching a bit - the other ones mentioned were no problem though.
But I had some trouble finding the right spot for Ash Gorge (found it directly on the ramp, Kara TP didn't count, neither did on top of the cliff)

Last edited by Jarnys (1 decade ago)

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#45

Paramount Stock is definitely broken

I tried Dyron Hill four times but I will try again. I had no trouble with Ash Gorge it was Lucenthill Hurst I mentioned as well as Barkers Dune in the mines.

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#46

I got Paramount Stock in just one visit but I have noticed that several others have not registered in the same way. In particular Valley of Emperors in Imperial Dunes took 4 visits and a stay long enough for 2 "Arfur is Saved" messages before it registered.

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