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Very well said Crailus

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Gibini (atys)
I understand that the neutrals and RP'ers don't enjoy PvP but that doesn't give them the right to question or abuse those players that do.

The right of thinking people is to question everything, if you ask me. The ability to do so makes us human. ;) - Apart from that, I only pointed out that it is hardly the thrill of competition if you slay a digger.

And if you can dig armed, you can also walk over water, I guess. I don't dig, but my, I also never learned that trick - I always had to take a pick. ^^

Crailus (atys)
On Arispotle, neutral players were allowed to dig freely in PvP zones and even hold outposts without having to fight for them.

Same on Leanon, btw.

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Crailus (atys)
As for kill-stealing and general rudeness: I never encountered someone stealing my bandits or whatever, but communication goes a long way. Try to start a conversation and let them know you were there first.

I agree with this post and I'd add that q250 PR are not pvp so it's not even the best mats that you have to accept pvp to reach.

But on the topic of kill stealling not everyone answe when you try talking to them. Believe me i've tried.
But it's only a minority that doesnt care, most of the peope i've encontered was respectful enough to take into consideration other's situation when pointed out to them in a language they couldd understand.

I dare hope it's the case for most people but can only share my own experience.

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Gibini (atys)
I understand that [...] RP'ers don't enjoy PvP
That is egregiously incorrect.

Daomei (atys)
An immersed player will experience attack and abuse of the character much alike real abuse and violence (though on lesser degree) , and take offense accordingly, even if it was never meant that way.
This is also incorrect, if you're equating "immersed player" with "roleplayer". Real roleplayers maintain a very strict separation between their character and their self. Only non/semi/pseudo/fail-roleplayers do not.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Kimathia (1 decade ago)

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Daomei did not, if you read it carefully, equate role-players with immersed players, only that immersed characters feel they are playing a role.

There are many types of role-play. One is the aloof, calculating kind where the toon is to be maniupulated according to a thought-out plan. Another one is the immersed role-play where the player, while aware of the difference, immerses himmer self in the aspects of the toon. (There are other kinds, but those are pretty much the extreme ends of the spectrum, imho.) Both types are valid.

I play a cooperative, enterprizing Tryker who has spent time in the world and come to his own conclusions about the Karavan, the Kamis, and everything in between. If someone were to gank me in PR while I am minding my own business, my role-play attitude towards her would be extremely critical. This would not be my OOC opinion of her, though the two might be seen as very close.

I see no reason whatsoever why I should not express these opinions.

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oops my bad I had to delete text in game so might have got confused :)

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Rikutatis (atys)
Freddy,


For those leveling PR foraging, you can still do it in the lvl 250 zones or the Abyss. Those zones are not PvP free. For those after the SNs, you can still dig 250 sups in Wastelands or US.

Not really Rik.....I was down there in Wastelands at season change and after getting run over repeatedly by tagged players dragging aggro over me,I left. I don't think they were aiming for me (or perhaps I just prefer to believe that). I just "got in the way" of their PvP *fun*. I can't make a determination as to whether the aggro trains were brought intentionally as a PvP tactic or just as the result of chasing each other down and picking up things accidentally but the end result was, I was half way to max DP because of PvP in an area that I keep being told is free from non consensual PvP activity. I certainly didn't get a pop up warning me that I run the risk of being run over repeatedly by aggro trains.

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