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#241 Report | Quote[en] 

can't transfer the goodies in premium pack so you would be stuck with all of them on a char you don't wanna play and none of them on a char you do wanna play

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#242 Report | Quote[en] 

bottom line, if you don't pay, you loose everything you ever played for, really sucks too, no real excuse for deleting everything a non paying char has to "balance" things, with the level cap how could we really ever get anything that good to start with? Sad to say but as an IT pro, i know that there's no need to say it's required that you loose everything you played all this time for because of a merge, that's funny in my book, companies don't loose all their data when we move from one server to another, so what gives, instead of trying to do this to FORCE people to pay, offer bonuses or better stuff for those that do pay, on top of that, something like this is the very reason that am now a firm believer that when i did start (and i had planned on it) to pay that there would be another "merge" and all the hard work that i would have put in playing to lvl up would be lost, and as a paying player i would have really been pissed, here in lies the very flaw that kept me form ever playing an MMO, then i find this game and start playing and giving it a chance, start to like it and enjoy it and think to myself hey, if this keeps going good, i'll subscribe to it, then this, what a joke, and thanks for showing me that had i started out over a year ago paying for this game that in just a few short days i would loose everything that i would have been paying to play for over a year would be lost. At one point i was starting to think maybe i had been wrong about mmo's and the logic of payin for a game every month (or year as i would have done) just to one day loose all my hard work and time and effort because of a pointless tactic to force players that play for free to pay, and so forth. enough on this rant, thanks ryzom for showing me i was right about mmo's, if you pay, you still loose, so why bother to pay for something every month (or year) when your just going to loose out in the end.

Yumeroh (Aniro)
This announcement will be long, but we hope it will answer your questions and reassure you. There is no question of closing the game or kill it as we read it, but we absolutely must take into account the economic pressures that are the main reasons for this servers merge. The goal is not to make more money but to stop losing money and thus allow Ryzom continue to live.

Backup of levels

With the active support of the community and the many requests to save your character levels, it was possible to consider, test and now offer an alternative to the avatar reset. See below for details:

All subscribed accounts on the day of closing of the current servers will keep the appearance, the name but also the levels and skill bricks of all characters that are on the account.

We have also made arrangements so that you can, if you wish, restart your Ryzom adventrure from scratch. More information on this subject later in this announcement.

As a result of these changes, we have decided to move the server merge back a week, to (Saturday, 29 September at midnight GMT+2), to give us a little more time and you more chances to win a starter pack.

Starter packs

You may have heard of the starter packs we are now offering. There are three kinds of starter packs. A character can restart with one pack only. The hightest that you have won is selected automatically. You will not be able to exchange the items in the packs. All characters with a starter pack will keep their name and physical characteristics.



Basic Pack
  • Keep the name of the character
  • Keep the physical characteristics
  • 1 Handed Axe (q25 stats)
  • q100 Amplifier (q100 stats) 120% heal
  • q1 Armor (q25 stats)
  • 1 stack of 999 q100 generic raw materials
  • 10,000 Dappers
Silver Pack
  • Keep the name of the character
  • Keep the physical characteristics
  • 1 Mektoub Packer
  • 1 Handed Axe (q50 stats)
  • q100 Amplifier (q200 stats) 120% heal
  • q1 Armor (q50 stats)
  • q200 Black Marauder Heavy Armor
  • 5 stacks of 999 q200 generic raw materials
  • 1,000,000 Dappers
Premium Pack
  • Keep the name of the character
  • Keep the physical characteristics
  • 1 Mektoub Packer
  • 1 Handed Axe (Q50 stats)
  • q100 amplifiers (q200 stats) 120% heal
  • q1 Armor (Q50 stats)
  • q100 White Marauder Light Armor
  • q200 White Marauder Medium Armor
  • q150 White Marauder Heavy Armor
  • 3 stacks of 999 q100 generic raw materials
  • 4 stacks of 999 q150 generic raw materials
  • 5 stacks of 999 q200 generic raw materials
  • 1,000,000 Dappers

Overview of options

With the merge, you have several options available to you. Below all options are explained..

If you have a paid, currently subscirbed, account, you have the choice between:
  • Doing nothing: In this case, all your characters on your account will keep their levels and each will start with a Basic Pack.
  • Register one of your characters to the "List of the Reckless": the levels of this character will all be reset and it will start with a Premium Package (other characters of the account keep their levels and get a Basic Pack). You can register only one character per paid account. You have until the close of servers to register. Your account must have an active paid subscription at the time of registration.
If you have a free account, you have the choice between:
  • Doing nothing: In this case, all characters of the account will be deleted.
  • Involve one or more of your characters in events before the servers close: In this case, their levels will be reset and will start with a Basic Pack.
If your character should win a Silver Pack, it will replace the Basic Pack.

All characters and accounts that will be created after the server merge begin as before, without any starter packs.

Overview of changes brought by the merge

Locations
Digging spots and some creatures may not be where you expect them! Careful!

Dappers
We want to take advantage of the merge to rebalance the economy, so it will necessarily to go through your wallet and steal all your dappers. Sorry.

Inventories
As with dappers, resetting your inventories will help bring more balance to the game. Each server had a different progression, various events... It is therefore necessary to start on a neutral, common basis.

Guilds of different communities come away with a substantive equality and therefore, it will promote competition among other guilds and factions.

Kami Tolerance should be back for the pleasure of diggers.

Apartments and mektoubs
Your apartment will be put up for sale and your mektoubs released into the wild.

Guilds
Guilds require a very specific and complex transfer process, which could lead to bugs and other instabilities detectable only after migration. Transfer simulations will not guarantee that things will work perfectly. To avoid such often unpredictable problems , we have decided not to take risks and let you recreate your guild yourself.

Fames
All fame will be reset to allow everyone to have access to cities in the early days and avoid early factional conflicts. We realize that upgrading fames takes time, so it's a sacrifice that we ask of you to simplify the transfer process.

Occupations
Some parts related to items in the inventories can not be kept. These include experience and levels of basic occupations that are stored in the form of items.

WebIG, mail, forums, craft recipes
WebIG applications, emails, forums and craft recipes will be kept.

WebIG had to be adapted to manage a single server instead of three as at present. Since it was partly OpenSource, we took the opportunity to address an important aspect in the management of characters.

Web applications need to be converted, which will be done gradually. Forums, emails and craft recipes will be available the day of the opening of the new server. The rest of the applications will follow after.

Apartment items
For your apartment items, we will do our best to keep them in a storage for all your characters. We can not promise 100% retention of all your objects, but we will try to so that you can use your old furniture and feel at home when you purchase an apartment.

OOC Events

The OCC Events that are run until the merge are designed to enable you to win Basic and Silver Packs, but to have a good time. There will be small regular events in the week but the big ones will take place on Friday and Saturday evenings.

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Ryzom Team

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#243 Report | Quote[en] 

Talkirc
bottom line, if you don't pay, you loose everything you ever played for, really sucks too, no real excuse for deleting everything a non paying char has to "balance" things, with the level cap how could we really ever get anything that good to start with? Sad to say but as an IT pro, i know that there's no need to say it's required that you loose everything you played all this time for because of a merge, that's funny in my book, companies don't loose all their data when we move from one server to another, so what gives, instead of trying to do this to FORCE people to pay, offer bonuses or better stuff for those that do pay, on top of that, something like this is the very reason that am now a firm believer that when i did start (and i had planned on it) to pay that there would be another "merge" and all the hard work that i would have put in playing to lvl up would be lost, and as a paying player i would have really been pissed, here in lies the very flaw that kept me form ever playing an MMO, then i find this game and start playing and giving it a chance, start to like it and enjoy it and think to myself hey, if this keeps going good, i'll subscribe to it, then this, what a joke, and thanks for showing me that had i started out over a year ago paying for this game that in just a few short days i would loose everything that i would have been paying to play for over a year would be lost. At one point i was starting to think maybe i had been wrong about mmo's and the logic of payin for a game every month (or year as i would have done) just to one day loose all my hard work and time and effort because of a pointless tactic to force players that play for free to pay, and so forth. enough on this rant, thanks ryzom for showing me i was right about mmo's, if you pay, you still loose, so why bother to pay for something every month (or year) when your just going to loose out in the end.

You said yourself you would pay if you liked the game. So now it is easy. Either you like it, and stick to your own idea, and get to keep your toon as a bonus, or you don't like it and leave.
End of story.

(and really, did you need to spread your rant across three topics? Me smells a troll)

Last edited by Sliar (1 decade ago)

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#244 Report | Quote[en] 

Looking forward to start fresh in 2.0 this weekend

#245 Report | Quote[en] 

Subox
can't transfer the goodies in premium pack so you would be stuck with all of them on a char you don't wanna play and none of them on a char you do wanna play
Huh. I missed that. It says "You will not be able to exchange the items in the packs." but does that mean the content of the packs are non-negotiable, or that the items are bound to that character and can't be given to anyone else? I always find the messages not very clear. You have to go to an earlier news item just to find out that previously subbed but currently unsubbed characters will get deleted.
edit: I asked someone in chat (Mokoi, who's name was purple so they were a ... dev?) and while they said they'd have to look into it, they said the armor wasn't unique to the premium pack, so like medium marauder armor will be obtainable in the game at some point. That helps me make my decision. and it suggests that there wouldn't be a reason I couldn't trade the item to another player (like an alt on an alt account).
Still... It's an option even if it is stuck on one character. I mean, it's not like having the armor on the character you don't play will stop you from playing the other character. You'd just have it for looks then. I guess it's a waste, but so is losing all those levels, I guess. and you could change your mind and play the premium character.

Great, I can't decide. and I'm running out of time because it looks like the even on the 28th was moved up to the 27th. but I guess that's mostly for my free account, since a paid account wouldn't need to participate in the events. Also they mentioned that there were events going on now, so I'm guessing it's not JUST what's on the calendar. (not that the basic pack is that important for my free account, but might be nice.)

Oh well... Worst case scenario: I'm out $11 and I regret who I put the premium pack on in either case, or I put off the decision and... Coralvine is gone forever.
It's all virtual and fleeting anyway. I shouldn't let fear of loss burden my decisions. Coralvine lived her life and now it's over. I should realize that my reluctance to play the game even for free is probably a good indicator that I don't want to play. It's too bad I don't have more time. We'll see.

Last edited by Coralvine(arispotle) (1 decade ago)

#246 Report | Quote[en] 

A subscribed account can choose which character on that account becomes reckless, if any. You can change your mind at any time up to the server close.

#247 Report | Quote[en] 

hi there ,
I'm from Leanon and I 'm just here to say :I'm proud , that we can playing together and a lot of people on Leanon thinkin' in the same way, the most I think. Some are assuredly a lil fearfully about the 'pull up' but we will manage it and we can, I hope :) . Only the comm can grow together ,yes we ,not winchgate or the GM's....we have to.
I dont really trust winchgate but the gm-team and the event-team are very assiduously and trustworthily and so ryzom will have a chance to surrvive.
Like u can see...my english is not the smoothest one ...germanlike :) ...but for the most it will be enough aaaaand with ambitions it will be not a problem... :D. The country-ghetto's are surely not the best idea , but we should try to take this rocks in our way and throw it through the winchgate -office-windows :D . Cya on the new server.
For a good RP and a lot of fun ,long live ryzom !

#248 Report | Quote[en] 

It will be a new and fun adventure for all, this I am sure. I look forward to playing with homins from all lands and welcome the many challenges and fun times it will bring! Long live Ryzom and LONG LIVE HOMINS OF ATYS!!!!

#249 Report | Quote[en] 

Did we get a time for the opening of the new shard yet? Is it Saturday 29th? But when?

#250 Report | Quote[en] 

In the older prophecy they say, they need 3 day's. ( http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/09/07/exclusive-ryzom-interview -details-player-wipes-and-server-merges/ )

#251 Report | Quote[en] 

Arcueid
Did we get a time for the opening of the new shard yet? Is it Saturday 29th? But when?

I have it for Tuesday 2 Oct, late afternoon GMT+2.

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#252 Report | Quote[en] 

I dont know if thats a really lucky day for the next period of ryzom. The reason of my doupt is,that we in ger have on the 3.oct a official state holiday . If the contest begins on the 2. the germans will have a bad advantage...but it should be fair....
The comm should be grow together , this date would be the next rock ...
If it is the 2. ,dont count on me being in that race !

#253 Report | Quote[en] 

Sywindt
Arcueid
Did we get a time for the opening of the new shard yet? Is it Saturday 29th? But when?

I have it for Tuesday 2 Oct, late afternoon GMT+2.


are u sure about that date? :)

#254 Report | Quote[en] 

This is a fair compromise to the original idea of completely "wiping" the characters out, especially considering the time some have put into their characters... Yes, you have to pay to keep your stats... it's a business and the game is awesome, if your a serious player than pay! Show your support to WG, help make the game more interactive, and help keep the it alive for future players.

#255 Report | Quote[en] 

I quit one account completley lost other toon not recovered ....... goodbye atys
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