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#229 Report | Quote[en] 

Gorran
Neela
Stinks don't it. I paid good money for that. One of the few in game indicators that someone has played this game from the start and actually bought it before it was released. Taken away when it doesn't really need to be, it's so weak as an actual shield it's hardly an unbalancing item.

The irony is that I can roll a new toon and the new toon will have the pre-order buckler but Gorran won't.

Is it me or is that ridiculous?

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Elder Of Atys

Chasing the DING!
katriell
You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
Remickla (atys)
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#230 Report | Quote[en] 

Neela
Gorran
Neela
Stinks don't it. I paid good money for that. One of the few in game indicators that someone has played this game from the start and actually bought it before it was released. Taken away when it doesn't really need to be, it's so weak as an actual shield it's hardly an unbalancing item.

The irony is that I can roll a new toon and the new toon will have the pre-order buckler but Gorran won't.

Is it me or is that ridiculous?

I'm pretty reckless but am I that reckless...

#231 Report | Quote[en] 

Rashan
I'm pretty reckless but am I that reckless...

Crap, did they open the can of old, crippled mercenaries? ;-)

I just hope your cousin Maximus got eaten by a kipee...

#232 Report | Quote[en] 

From the OP --
Yumeroh
As a result of these changes, we have decided to move the server merge back a week, to (Saturday, 29 September at midnight GMT+2), to give us a little more time and you more chances to win a starter pack.

I just noticed that no date and time is given for the opening of the merged server. Could someone (official) please commnent?

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Phaedreas Tears - 15 years old and first(*) of true neutral guilds in Atys.
(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
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#233 Report | Quote[en] 

...Glad I'm not the only one upset over losing sentimental items. It wasn't 100 billion dappers or NPC armor or boss mats I treasured, but the odds and ends crafted over the years by folks whose company I may never again get to enjoy. It was always nice hopping into the apartment to take a trip down memory lane... heck, I'd even throw a few more $$$ away to keep a few of those things. Oh well.

/sadface

If nothing else, damn, this thread brought back some old names. Good stuff. Still on the fence about giving 2.0 a shot, been keeping a sub open for the past couple years holding onto the distant hope of winning the lottery or something and just playing Ryzom instead of working. But MMOs just don't fit into the daily grind anymore, though I still dream of those Fount palms swaying in the breeze from time to time.

#234 Report | Quote[en] 

Owagwyn
...Glad I'm not the only one upset over losing sentimental items. It wasn't 100 billion dappers or NPC armor or boss mats I treasured, but the odds and ends crafted over the years by folks whose company I may never again get to enjoy. It was always nice hopping into the apartment to take a trip down memory lane... heck, I'd even throw a few more $$$ away to keep a few of those things. Oh well.

I agree wholeheartedly with you, it's not any kind of super gear that I'd want to keep. It's normal items that have sentimental value.

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Elder Of Atys

Chasing the DING!
katriell
You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
Remickla (atys)
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#235 Report | Quote[en] 

Was quite confused when I was clearing out my spam box and found this email about Ryzom, it's been such a long time since I last set foot on Atys, I sure wouldn't mind setting foot there again.. It's pretty sad to see old memrobelia go, but on the other hand, maybe this can breathe a breath of fresh air into the old girl.
Heck, I may just come back myself. It's been long enough now, I've seen enough "Ryzom is dead" posts to know that this game takes a lot of killing to truely go.

I for one would love to see a return to Ryzom, a clean slate, a fresh start. Maybe more oldies will think the same?

(I wonder if that toon I parked in Galemus still exists?)

#236 Report | Quote[en] 

Shesomb
Was quite confused when I was clearing out my spam box and found this email about Ryzom, it's been such a long time since I last set foot on Atys, I sure wouldn't mind setting foot there again.. It's pretty sad to see old memrobelia go, but on the other hand, maybe this can breathe a breath of fresh air into the old girl.
Heck, I may just come back myself. It's been long enough now, I've seen enough "Ryzom is dead" posts to know that this game takes a lot of killing to truely go.

I for one would love to see a return to Ryzom, a clean slate, a fresh start. Maybe more oldies will think the same?

(I wonder if that toon I parked in Galemus still exists?)

Glad this has sparked your interest again - I look forward to seeing you and a lot of the other 'oldies' in-game.

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Palta e decata, nan nec ilne matala.

When one goes on a journey it is not the scenery that changes, but the traveller

#237 Report | Quote[en] 

Sxarlet
Rashan
I'm pretty reckless but am I that reckless...

Crap, did they open the can of old, crippled mercenaries? ;-)

I just hope your cousin Maximus got eaten by a kipee...
Kincher, not Kipee :P

And wasn't the correct term venerable veteran?

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First and last of the Darkmoor Rangers

#238 Report | Quote[en] 

Shesomb
(I wonder if that toon I parked in Galemus still exists?)

Last i checked my zorai refugee was still on original jungle starter lands...

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#239 Report | Quote[en] 

Was kind of hoping to start playing Hadrosian again when I heard about the 125 cap, but he seems to be in limbo along with a number of other homins--I left a slot open for him and everything. Assuming someone has no more than five, maybe we can play all of our characters together on the new server?

#240 Report | Quote[en] 

BTW, anyone worrying about the premium package: why not add a low level alt to the list of the reckless, and then give the armor to your high level character so you don't have to sacrifice skill levels? Maybe that badge only shows up for one character, but is that just on the forums, or in-game too (with a title?)? Maybe they'll implement BoP items that you can't give to your other characters. ;>


Oh dear.
I checked out Ryzom's site on a whim, and my free account didn't get an email about this. (perhaps because I set it not to email me?)
I've been putting off returning to Ryzom even on my free account. I haven't played since that transition period when it was free for everyone. (or there was another free trial since then.)

I'm not sure what my old account means to me, considering I haven't played in years... My old guild is gone and all my guildmates. I barely remember most of them any more.
Do I want to pay $11 to stick some fancy armor on my character (that we won't even know how (in)obtainable it will be. Medium bandit armor??), if I'm just going to unsubscribe? Then again, what's $11?

One day soon I'm aiming to craft myself my Zorai mask in real life. That's what I really really want, to return to the jungles in real life. I've been looking into papercraft cosplay crafting. (I'd also like to do some weapons and armor if I can.) I think that's a better memento than virtual armor.

(I know it's foolish, but I wish my subbed account could be played for free with skills temporarily lowered to the maximums of free accounts. Oh well.)

#241 Report | Quote[en] 

can't transfer the goodies in premium pack so you would be stuck with all of them on a char you don't wanna play and none of them on a char you do wanna play

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#242 Report | Quote[en] 

bottom line, if you don't pay, you loose everything you ever played for, really sucks too, no real excuse for deleting everything a non paying char has to "balance" things, with the level cap how could we really ever get anything that good to start with? Sad to say but as an IT pro, i know that there's no need to say it's required that you loose everything you played all this time for because of a merge, that's funny in my book, companies don't loose all their data when we move from one server to another, so what gives, instead of trying to do this to FORCE people to pay, offer bonuses or better stuff for those that do pay, on top of that, something like this is the very reason that am now a firm believer that when i did start (and i had planned on it) to pay that there would be another "merge" and all the hard work that i would have put in playing to lvl up would be lost, and as a paying player i would have really been pissed, here in lies the very flaw that kept me form ever playing an MMO, then i find this game and start playing and giving it a chance, start to like it and enjoy it and think to myself hey, if this keeps going good, i'll subscribe to it, then this, what a joke, and thanks for showing me that had i started out over a year ago paying for this game that in just a few short days i would loose everything that i would have been paying to play for over a year would be lost. At one point i was starting to think maybe i had been wrong about mmo's and the logic of payin for a game every month (or year as i would have done) just to one day loose all my hard work and time and effort because of a pointless tactic to force players that play for free to pay, and so forth. enough on this rant, thanks ryzom for showing me i was right about mmo's, if you pay, you still loose, so why bother to pay for something every month (or year) when your just going to loose out in the end.

Yumeroh (Aniro)
This announcement will be long, but we hope it will answer your questions and reassure you. There is no question of closing the game or kill it as we read it, but we absolutely must take into account the economic pressures that are the main reasons for this servers merge. The goal is not to make more money but to stop losing money and thus allow Ryzom continue to live.

Backup of levels

With the active support of the community and the many requests to save your character levels, it was possible to consider, test and now offer an alternative to the avatar reset. See below for details:

All subscribed accounts on the day of closing of the current servers will keep the appearance, the name but also the levels and skill bricks of all characters that are on the account.

We have also made arrangements so that you can, if you wish, restart your Ryzom adventrure from scratch. More information on this subject later in this announcement.

As a result of these changes, we have decided to move the server merge back a week, to (Saturday, 29 September at midnight GMT+2), to give us a little more time and you more chances to win a starter pack.

Starter packs

You may have heard of the starter packs we are now offering. There are three kinds of starter packs. A character can restart with one pack only. The hightest that you have won is selected automatically. You will not be able to exchange the items in the packs. All characters with a starter pack will keep their name and physical characteristics.



Basic Pack
  • Keep the name of the character
  • Keep the physical characteristics
  • 1 Handed Axe (q25 stats)
  • q100 Amplifier (q100 stats) 120% heal
  • q1 Armor (q25 stats)
  • 1 stack of 999 q100 generic raw materials
  • 10,000 Dappers
Silver Pack
  • Keep the name of the character
  • Keep the physical characteristics
  • 1 Mektoub Packer
  • 1 Handed Axe (q50 stats)
  • q100 Amplifier (q200 stats) 120% heal
  • q1 Armor (q50 stats)
  • q200 Black Marauder Heavy Armor
  • 5 stacks of 999 q200 generic raw materials
  • 1,000,000 Dappers
Premium Pack
  • Keep the name of the character
  • Keep the physical characteristics
  • 1 Mektoub Packer
  • 1 Handed Axe (Q50 stats)
  • q100 amplifiers (q200 stats) 120% heal
  • q1 Armor (Q50 stats)
  • q100 White Marauder Light Armor
  • q200 White Marauder Medium Armor
  • q150 White Marauder Heavy Armor
  • 3 stacks of 999 q100 generic raw materials
  • 4 stacks of 999 q150 generic raw materials
  • 5 stacks of 999 q200 generic raw materials
  • 1,000,000 Dappers

Overview of options

With the merge, you have several options available to you. Below all options are explained..

If you have a paid, currently subscirbed, account, you have the choice between:
  • Doing nothing: In this case, all your characters on your account will keep their levels and each will start with a Basic Pack.
  • Register one of your characters to the "List of the Reckless": the levels of this character will all be reset and it will start with a Premium Package (other characters of the account keep their levels and get a Basic Pack). You can register only one character per paid account. You have until the close of servers to register. Your account must have an active paid subscription at the time of registration.
If you have a free account, you have the choice between:
  • Doing nothing: In this case, all characters of the account will be deleted.
  • Involve one or more of your characters in events before the servers close: In this case, their levels will be reset and will start with a Basic Pack.
If your character should win a Silver Pack, it will replace the Basic Pack.

All characters and accounts that will be created after the server merge begin as before, without any starter packs.

Overview of changes brought by the merge

Locations
Digging spots and some creatures may not be where you expect them! Careful!

Dappers
We want to take advantage of the merge to rebalance the economy, so it will necessarily to go through your wallet and steal all your dappers. Sorry.

Inventories
As with dappers, resetting your inventories will help bring more balance to the game. Each server had a different progression, various events... It is therefore necessary to start on a neutral, common basis.

Guilds of different communities come away with a substantive equality and therefore, it will promote competition among other guilds and factions.

Kami Tolerance should be back for the pleasure of diggers.

Apartments and mektoubs
Your apartment will be put up for sale and your mektoubs released into the wild.

Guilds
Guilds require a very specific and complex transfer process, which could lead to bugs and other instabilities detectable only after migration. Transfer simulations will not guarantee that things will work perfectly. To avoid such often unpredictable problems , we have decided not to take risks and let you recreate your guild yourself.

Fames
All fame will be reset to allow everyone to have access to cities in the early days and avoid early factional conflicts. We realize that upgrading fames takes time, so it's a sacrifice that we ask of you to simplify the transfer process.

Occupations
Some parts related to items in the inventories can not be kept. These include experience and levels of basic occupations that are stored in the form of items.

WebIG, mail, forums, craft recipes
WebIG applications, emails, forums and craft recipes will be kept.

WebIG had to be adapted to manage a single server instead of three as at present. Since it was partly OpenSource, we took the opportunity to address an important aspect in the management of characters.

Web applications need to be converted, which will be done gradually. Forums, emails and craft recipes will be available the day of the opening of the new server. The rest of the applications will follow after.

Apartment items
For your apartment items, we will do our best to keep them in a storage for all your characters. We can not promise 100% retention of all your objects, but we will try to so that you can use your old furniture and feel at home when you purchase an apartment.

OOC Events

The OCC Events that are run until the merge are designed to enable you to win Basic and Silver Packs, but to have a good time. There will be small regular events in the week but the big ones will take place on Friday and Saturday evenings.

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Ryzom Team

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Remickla (atys)
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#243 Report | Quote[en] 

Talkirc
bottom line, if you don't pay, you loose everything you ever played for, really sucks too, no real excuse for deleting everything a non paying char has to "balance" things, with the level cap how could we really ever get anything that good to start with? Sad to say but as an IT pro, i know that there's no need to say it's required that you loose everything you played all this time for because of a merge, that's funny in my book, companies don't loose all their data when we move from one server to another, so what gives, instead of trying to do this to FORCE people to pay, offer bonuses or better stuff for those that do pay, on top of that, something like this is the very reason that am now a firm believer that when i did start (and i had planned on it) to pay that there would be another "merge" and all the hard work that i would have put in playing to lvl up would be lost, and as a paying player i would have really been pissed, here in lies the very flaw that kept me form ever playing an MMO, then i find this game and start playing and giving it a chance, start to like it and enjoy it and think to myself hey, if this keeps going good, i'll subscribe to it, then this, what a joke, and thanks for showing me that had i started out over a year ago paying for this game that in just a few short days i would loose everything that i would have been paying to play for over a year would be lost. At one point i was starting to think maybe i had been wrong about mmo's and the logic of payin for a game every month (or year as i would have done) just to one day loose all my hard work and time and effort because of a pointless tactic to force players that play for free to pay, and so forth. enough on this rant, thanks ryzom for showing me i was right about mmo's, if you pay, you still loose, so why bother to pay for something every month (or year) when your just going to loose out in the end.

You said yourself you would pay if you liked the game. So now it is easy. Either you like it, and stick to your own idea, and get to keep your toon as a bonus, or you don't like it and leave.
End of story.

(and really, did you need to spread your rant across three topics? Me smells a troll)

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