A New Beginning 2.0 - OFFICIAL NEWS - Ryzom Community Forum

#175 Added by Seawe 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

Well there will indeed be alot of players just starting out and currently are... i don't see why you shouldn't want to play with them. Older players play too its a big diverse world. Lots of homins doing lots of things. Vets won't have anything other than experience and skills, so more of Atys will be used.

Just comes round to what i said before whats a 'level playing field'? everyone must be same level all the time?? i don't get it.

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#176 Added by Dareth 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Seawe

Just comes round to what i said before whats a 'level playing field'? everyone must be same level all the time?? i don't get it.

Totally agree with this. Form guilds of restart players. High lvl players won't be in the same areas anyways, you don't need to ask for or accept their help and you can enjoy the experience of forging your way through Atys anew with guildies of a similar mindset.

The stratification of player lvls would begin to reassert itself within days of a complete restart anyway. Other then a full reset and a limit on XP earned per day, there is no way to get any perceived "level playing field". Even then it would only be a matter of time.

I guess I don't get it either...

#177 Added by Tgwaste 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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level playing field in an MMO..

*me takes his daily dose of crazy pills...

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#178 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Just wanted to clarify, startification is a very top down type of thing, and you really don't see it much in sandbox mmo's...

So, higher levels going to different areas isn't really stratification, simply area load in terms of players. Certain players will advance at different rates--this is all associated with the nice things sandbox mmos have to offer. Like montessory schools, people can advance at their own pace, in whatever skill set they choose, and pretty much enjoy the game.

While you do see a great deal of stratification in guilds, that is usually expected and understood.

I for one would only join a guild when i had something to offer (say at a much advanced level to do things that require a large number of players, over a period of time)

If people start approaching this game with the mentality that you can "win" at it in some way, they're really missing the point, and in the end will not have a very enjoyable playing experience.

This is one of my concerns over the blanket 2x xp option.

#179 Added by Tgwaste 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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the 2X option is one of the things I like that they are doing actually. I never bothered to level without cats any way. this isnt a 60 70 80 level game, its 250 freaking levels for each master. even at 2x it takes a good amount of time to do.

i also believe in incentives to get F2Pers to subscribe.

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#180 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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so 2x xp after 125 would be something you'd be in favor of?

think my main issue is with the newbies learning to PL themselves rather than learning how to actually play the game well, and subsequently enjoy it

newbies meaning even those brand new to mmo's

#181 Added by Tgwaste 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Hadrisian

so 2x xp after 125 would be something you'd be in favor of?

think my main issue is with the newbies learning to PL themselves rather than learning how to actually play the game well, and subsequently enjoy it

newbies meaning even those brand new to mmo's

No, I always want 2x XP, 125 or not. But I want it only for P2P. Why are you concerned about PLing? Its the nature of MMOs. This is an MMO that is almost 100% grind. PLing is a must. I do not believe the beauty of Ryzom is in the leveling. The leveling is horrible. No thought or design what so ever. The beauty is in many other things. For me getting masters was a means. Not an end.

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#182 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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have not found any of my experiences with playing as "horrible", other than abusive players...

don't really focus on leveling so much since I'm not in a hurry to match someone else...

suprisingly, i either meet or go beyond my goals in the normal progress of the game--esp. when I get really involved with one aspect or another.

edit: just to clarify, have met very few mean ppl on atys

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#183 Added by Ixolite 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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I heard from an old friend about a full server wipe and merge, I thought that could be fun.. a fresh start!

Bah!

after reading that not all players will be reset.. I think I will give this a miss, shame as it sounded very promising.

#184 Added by Jelathnia 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Ixolite

I heard from an old friend about a full server wipe and merge, I thought that could be fun.. a fresh start!

Bah!

after reading that not all players will be reset.. I think I will give this a miss, shame as it sounded very promising.

Things are still going to be quite shaken up. Why not give it a try after the merge?

#185 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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try General --> Server Poll for that one

Last edited by Hadrisian (1 decade ago) | Reason: if there are a large number, the poll is intended to allow everyone to have equal say, rather than one or two representatives posting...

#186 Added by Ixolite 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Jelathnia

Ixolite
I heard from an old friend about a full server wipe and merge, I thought that could be fun.. a fresh start!

Bah!

after reading that not all players will be reset.. I think I will give this a miss, shame as it sounded very promising.

Things are still going to be quite shaken up. Why not give it a try after the merge?

We have just been chatting, and we all come to the same conclusion... It will be exactly the same, old ryzom.. just with extra people on there.
With a full wipe it will bring challenges, power rushes, a new outlook and new adventure.

With this (so called) wipe it will just mean more people stood around the stables, looking pretty.

Come on WG give us something to work for!!

#187 Added by Sliar 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Ixolite

I heard from an old friend about a full server wipe and merge, I thought that could be fun.. a fresh start!

Bah!

With this (so called) wipe it will just mean more people stood around the stables, looking pretty.

Come on WG give us something to work for!!

go ahead, go the reckless route. no one is stopping you.
I for one am glad I can keep the lvls I have been working on for the last six months. A full wipe will only be nice for the bored few that have seen it all before AND have the time to do it all again; a very small minority.

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#188 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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theres a poll in general where you can actually vote instead of so much back and forth over the same issue--albeit a very important one

#189 Added by Jelathnia 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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I'm sorry but the only thing a full wipe would do is result in Ryzom almost certainly closing 6-12 months down the road. There would be a massive amount of ragequitting and the new players attracted by the idea of a fresh start would not be enough to offset the effects of losing the majority of the existing, proven-loyal playerbase. Dumping an existing playerbase in favor of a potential new playerbase that may or may not turn out to be viable is exactly the kind of thinking that drove Star Wars Galaxies' "New Game Enhancements", and the only reasons that game survived that disastrous course change was 1) the fact it was owned by Sony Online Entertainment, a large company with extensive resources and 2) the Star Wars IP. Even then, SWG only survived in a relatively limping manner, its population dwindling steadily over the years that followed the initial sharp drop, until it closed six years after the NGE.

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