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#57 Report | Quote[en] 

Final
This is a big mistake. Try and do another merger like Cho! With adding z's onto names where the names conflict and reset the names on a first come first serve basis. It's not just the levels your wiping but so many rare and one off collectable items that could never be retrieved.

Windermeer and Cho were both merged into Arispotle, no toons reset in either merger. Yes, that was a long time ago and wasn't WinchGate but it's clear that mergers can be done without resets.

Final's suggestion is a great one, if two toons have the same name simply number them—Gorran1, Gorran2, etc—and the first one to request the "real" name gets it.

Ryzom is about freedom to be what you want to be; so, why FORCE your players into something they don't want via a reset? Is there a legitimate reason for this or is it just because someone decided it was best?

Gorran, who does not see a reason to get in game at all until after the server reset now, what's the point?

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#58 Report | Quote[en] 

Well, good luck with your New Beginning!

I was looking forward to my return to Ryzom, but not anymore. I'm as outraged as everyone else by this decision, but a part of me still hopes Ryzom manages to survive and succeed. I just won't be there as I'm cancelling my account now.

Hey, at least now I can go try some other MMO's =)

See ya all!

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#59 Report | Quote[en] 

Yumeroh (Aniro)
3) It will be very hard for a long time player to re-roll his or her character after years of writing stories and playing the game. Is it not possible to merge the server while keeping all of the characters as they are now?

We investigated the possibilities of keeping the characters, but we encountered some very difficult technical issues that make this impossible.

Our players have invested many many hours in their characters, their armor and their guild. It will not be easy to say goodbye to those things.

Things can be replaced, it's the skills that most are so concerned about. Skills represent hours, days, YEARS of investment by the player. Those are so much more valuable than mere THINGS.

I want to know what technical difficulties you found that PREVENT maintaining skill level.

Last edited by Gorran (1 decade ago)

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#60 Report | Quote[en] 

As a programmer and DBA (who's also run private MMO servers in the past) I don't see why there should be unresolvable technical issues with regards a merge, sure it would take time and resources and it's down to yourselves to decide whether the expense involved is worth it for the sake of saving a large percentage of long term subscriptions, personally I think the decision not to merge and keep the characters as they are is somewhat short-sighted and you'll lose out big time in the long run as a result.

With regards making it easier for newer players - I was a relatively new player having restarted Ryzom with a new character about 18 months ago (previously I was a guild member within the opposite faction), and I would much rather start the game with the help of established high level guild members, it's the fact that everyone starts from square one that primarily puts me off re-subbing because I can't face a hard tough grind with only similar level players around to assist and no higher level players available to run treks for newbies. My other reason for not re-subbing is that I just can't see the game surviving this in the long term with the number of long-term players you're going to lose and I don't fancy putting any more time and effort into something that may well be in its last days.

I really think you ought to reconsider investing into a merge that will keep the existing characters intact if you want the game to survive

Last edited by Korva(arispotle) (1 decade ago)

#61 Report | Quote[en] 

Wow, it's so sad to see so many names I fondly remember from over the years speak out for such tragic news. Unfortunately I never had the opportunity to play Ryzom much due to RL issues, but I have followed it since open beta days and occasionally put in some time (Sui, Valeriana, Xarae, Guisenlin, Odran), always glad Atys still existed and always hoping to return on a more permanent basis. The only MMO that mattered.

I hope Atys weathers this change, but I fear for the outcome. I will still follow you all and I will still hope to return.
Thank you everyone, for 8 years of wonderful stories, ideas, and roleplay.

-Sui

#62 Report | Quote[en] 

so what we gonna do till 22nd? im sure as hell that im not leveling any of my skills.. infact what can i do? except for log in and complain about starting again?.... common we need some kinda excitment till this merging takes place.. im so close to just downloading another mmorpg simply cause i cant wait till 22nd. i should also point out that since im pretty new in this game it doesnt really bother me much that i have to start again..

also one thing i cant figure out..

ok say you have merged all the servers and everyone is starting again. players doesnt have to pay for their account untill lvl 125!! and from what i know.. every1 would like to get all their skills to lvl 125 before they pay. now leveling 1 skill to 125 could take up to a month.. then another 2-3 months for the others skills.. now if this is the case.. doesnt that mean that your company (ryzom) wont be seeing any money from us (players) for a good 4-6 months...? can your company survive for that long with no money coming in?

#63 Report | Quote[en] 

Will i keep elder of atys title as that saved to accounts not characters ?

#64 Report | Quote[en] 

If you're going to wipe everything, wipe EVERYTHING is my vote.

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#65 Report | Quote[en] 

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Last edited by Ulykus (1 decade ago)

#66 Report | Quote[en] 

This Interview of VL opens more questions than it answers.

- There was not a single reason given why to wipe character levels. A lot of previous posts agree that there have been serious issues with the economy. But no reason to delete toons. If there is a serious reason, at least tell us about it now. Character transfers have been done before, and yes, there might be some work for support and devs involved. It's not about loosing some recent additions like occupations too (if they don't meet the standards of former ryzom development), it's about loosing the core of our characters.

- Rebalancing of the game... i'm really afraid about that one. Current Information and communication policy brings back worst nightmares of past rebalancings. This will be no good.

- It's not about difficult. It's about the mature community that held ryzom together. Most of us don't have the time to start fresh anymore. The question will be to keep RL up as good as it is now or continue with Ryzom.

- You contradict yourself about free to play. You say real ftp up to 125 is a unique feature (true) and you keep it that way (clearly wrong, read yourself about cats + ftp). Today it's a downside not to have sufficient space to be a crafter. But it can be explained. You will turn ryzom into one of those ftp games where non-paying players got a huge disadvantage. 2x Exp all the time for premium accounts is even more than most ftp games do, making ryzom a below average ftp game.

- You said it's not about RP. How do you explain one tryker cannot understand another when they want to chit-chat at stables or a bar? Governments cannot continue the way they were, most likely they will close down or held in one language only.

If you learned anything about this community in the past 8 years... don't do something like this without us.

#67 Report | Quote[en] 

Ulykus, while I agree to most you wrote, I fail to see why killing the occupation achievements is any better than killing skills. At best it is less catastrophic, but still nullifies efforts of roughly half a year of intense and often painful playing for a player who achieved grade 6 in basic occ and 250/250, 300/300 in extended.

I simply do not see for what we are being punished. Taking away our apts, beasts, guilds, all our items, ok, I can see some point. Merging the servers, painful, but probably promising anyway, and understandable. If money is lacking urgently, why not try some crowdfunding instead of abusing players who love their game?

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#68 Report | Quote[en] 

Well I know what this server needs.

http://tinyurl.com/ryzomfate

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#69 Report | Quote[en] 

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I also kept my account for 6 years, even when I was not playing. Too much time invested in the game to start all over. I would cancel my sub, but my credit card was billed a week ago for 2 toons, 3 months. Sad :(

Maybe Ill have to ask for a refund...

#70 Report | Quote[en] 

I said it because i tried to imagine which part of the toon (not equipment) would be technically impossible to move. Since character transfers stopped roughly when webig was introduced i found it likely the issue was somewhat related to webig.

Any skill loss is bad, no doubt.

#71 Report | Quote[en] 

Take our Dappers (and our equipment, even), reset the Economy, but preserve our Skills, names, and Faces. Naming conflicts can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, if there are overlaps between servers (first one to log in keeps their old name, otherwise prompted for new name, but skills still left intact).

You still have time to instill this notion before the Sky falls on our heads...


I've been gaming for 35 years now, and on MMOs ever since they've been invented, and in all that time, I've never seen a more fair, balanced, equitable gaming system than Ryzom. With a population to match. A masterful programming achievement.

I understand financial woes during this economic (or lack thereof) era, but... a more Graceful solution is requested than the one you've put forth. Time to get back to the Dev huddle and reconsider your options.

You can do this! I know you can think of a better way. Just try, 'tis all I ask.


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