IDEAS FOR RYZOM

For me the presence of danger is a very important part of being in PR. I love the atmophere, landscape and wildlife down there. And i think KPs fit very well into the scenery.

I agree with those who argued getting around in PR is something like a skill you have to master seperately. I started digging PR when KPs were still around the first time. I did choose to master the getting around skill before any other and succeeded. I always said it wouldn't matter if i got 3000 or 1000 hp when getting caught by a KP by surprise. That was - of course - only partially right as it is getting easier with better running and invulnerability skills. I missed KPs when they were gone and thought it got too easy.

Now KPs are back but they are alot different from what they were. Some places are almost impossible to travel alone without running and invulnerability skills because there are so many KPs. And those places are not diggable alone. But those are very few places and i can accept that, i'll just pass through and dig elsewhere. There are so many safe places - i use them to wait for the right weather - where you can enjoy the PR atmosphere, landscape and wildlife to the fullest without being killed by KPs. I don't think that PR are meant as a region where you can wander about everywhere without risk.

Some time ago i made a new toon on arispotle and needed to get PR tps. And I can confirm: all you need to get around is the getting around skill and some mid-level running and invulnerability.

PS.: Some respawn delay would be nice anyway.

Well Bitty then you are not discussing what the topic of this discutions was created for.
This discussion didnt start about wanted to enjoy the sights or relax or anything like it;

this dicussion is about Solo want them remove or reduce them for smaller groups
and is been proven you can kill and navigate all of PR with 1 team.

And now that the poll shows they should remains as they are.

you ask for another to be open cause we didnt agree with it.

then say we cannot dig cause of the KP yet is been told by different players
that it is posible.

and to refreshed your memory here is topic of discussion:

Monje, i never wanted rid of them. As i have said numerous times, i think they are overkill in certain areas.

I can deal with them, I can dig sups and kill bosses, however I feel it has ruined PR for some players. It was an open discussion that can take any slant it wants.

For someone to explain how they like PR and you to tell them it doesnt relate to this topic is just plain wrong.

My point stands valid, A slight change would be nice....respawn timers and movement. Simple enough change.

sure sounds like you wanted to be rid of them to me.

Poll results are not as clear as they may seem at the first glance.

I took the work and compared the posts of the last two pages with the poll. At least Daomei, Jarnys and me think it would be fine to have some respawn delay or other minor tweaks, which should move us from "leave them as they are" to "other... explain in thread".

so summed up... after discussion (did not consider pages 1-3)

33 want no changes at all
36 want large or minor changes
3 don't take a vote
as of today.

That makes it a pretty close poll and continued discussion might make sense.

Please keep any further posts on topic and relevant, or this topic will be locked.

There are a lot of players in game that agrees with reducing or altering their paths, because sometimes 3 KP patrols go over 1 spot, however they haven't voted or seen this thread.

It would be nice to see some compromise.

There is not a single mat or boss that you can not kill due to the KP's, all you need is a little patience and choose the right oppertunity, you can dig in certain areas of PR and you wont see aKP for along time, other areas you will have a few min to prospect, dig and get out. Or to pull a boss to a safer location.

Just spend a little time learning the routes and timings of the KP and you will see that there is absolutley no issue with them at all. What it means is that PR is harder and not as safe as other regions, well wasn't that meant to be the whole point?

We asked for years for the KP's to be brought back into the game, now they are people want them changed, no real supirse I guess.

Personaly I think that KP should comprise on Kinrey instead of Kirosta, it would make it easier for others to spam a /tar macro to spot them coming, even though they are easy enough to spot int he compass.

I do see your point, I have killed bosses and dug mats there. I just think a slight tweek would be better sometimes...

I'm well known for not being a big "digger" i only dig to provide myself with ammo for the wars and sometimes for jewels for guildies.

However i have had frequent case to stroll into PR and escort a digger or two who has more patience than me. I like the KP's they make things more interesting, boss hunting becomes KP avoidance or at least damage control the only thing i'd say is slap a 5-10 minute response timer that would be enough for me to be happy.

The agro range of KP's just means you have to be more patient when travelling or know your watering holes for a quick dunk and instant agro killing :)