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#60 Added by Beeficus 1 decade ago [en]

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I do not nor have I ever used 3rd party software to dig.

The fact is yes you do have the coordination, the tactics, and TI has substantial numbers of their own. But you also have several players with their own personal heal pods and 2 players who have extremely large heal pods that can switch between healing, resing and nuking from one moment to the next. These 2 players with their groups of alts are very difficult to put down and keep down and they alone are responsible for the outcomes of each battle they attend.

I feel bad for those of you in TI who are playing properly including those who have alts and control them the right way. You might very well be the biggest, smartest, strongest and best guild in the game. Unfortunately we will never really know that because some of you cheat. Those people do not have enough faith in TI as a guild to win without it.

If, as Gorran suggests, 3rd party software to control alts is allowed, I call for a CSR to confirm this so we can all start doing it.

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#61 Added by Stitch(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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Beeficus

I do not nor have I ever used 3rd party software to dig.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

#62 Added by Karu 1 decade ago [en]

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seems like ingame (server side) macros should be disabled. especially for pvp encounters.

It would remove all doubts wether there is real player behind that char or not (until new problems surface)

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#63 Added by Crailus 1 decade ago [en]

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Garuth

This kind of complaint is unavoidable in pvp games i suppose, I have played many.

but since we are all here to have fun why not just say "good job, get you next time" and go on and figure out how? yall won one a couple weeks ago and there were no forum posts complainig about how you were "cheating" and such. I like the people i fight, they let me have fun fighting them, would buy yall a beer if I could, but complaining about alts when yall had superior numbers? complainiing about account sharing when there were characters there on kara side when there were characters there who are KNOWN to have quit Ryzom? coem on guys, just have fun :)

Why would there be any complaining about karas cheating at the battle? No kara brings more than 1 healing alt to a battle, if that. We're supposed to be having fun with this? Being beaten down by a guild that would own nothing without the use of these bots. They can't even bare to be attacked without threatening counter-declares and attacks on allies to "take everything they have." Yes, PvP is fun for us, how is it fun for TI? Seems to me they don't like PvP, only winning. And dominating. And bullying others.

But that's not the point. This isn't about kara vs. kami now. This is asking CSRs to clarify if 3rd party programs are allowed so others may begin to use it and defend themselves against a bot army.

#64 Added by Garuth(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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Crailus

But that's not the point. This isn't about kara vs. kami now. This is asking CSRs to clarify if 3rd party programs are allowed so others may begin to use it and defend themselves against a bot army.

with as many times as specific names are mentioned in this? sorry man, you might be after a real clarification, but this thread is a whinge about losing.

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#65 Added by Beeficus 1 decade ago [en]

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Stitch

Beeficus
I do not nor have I ever used 3rd party software to dig.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

I invite you to watch me dig if you are going to call me a liar. You can clearly see that my characters never start an action at the same time. They always move one at a time because I switch from window to window starting actions in each one.

If you watch me digging for a while and you still want to call me a liar ill fraps it and post it so you can see exactly what im doing on my PC while im digging, but I would then expect the same from Yakapo and Nitrouss during OP battles.

Now the issue at hand remains the same. Try to divert it all you like but the Karavans are fed up with the blatant cheating to control the outcome of OP battles and therefore manipulate the balance between factions. We want answers and we want action.

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#66 Added by Stitch(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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Whatever. It's a shame that Yaka didn't take a screenshot of you admitting to using 3rd party software. You want to make accusations thats fine. But people in glass houses and all.

#67 Added by Garuth(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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still dont get it, yall had more characters than we did and are complaining that we had too many becasue we won is all I can figure.

what yall need is to put an organized person who isnt afraid to be a jerk in charge and MAKE people do as he says. I am sure there are many of you who have great ideas, but it seems like you try to do them all at the same time instead of having a central person in charge

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#68 Added by Liliang 1 decade ago [en]

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Deja vu... I believe the kara's may be stuck in an infinite loop, maybe their coding should be looked into? Anyway, this is so stupid, turn cat production back up or find a way to fix it other then that occupation that nobody cares about and we'll have more cats then we know what to do with (they'll have to be given back), however declaring with your alts and making rage posts with your alts on the forums does not motivate us to ever hand OP's back. Look at it this way, you can start working on your coordination, figuring out tactics for battle other then your bum rushing, and AA in particular, maybe you should listen to everyone in your guild's Idea's, the person I'm talking about knows who they are. ;) And to all kara's in general, every person that has ever come over to TI that was kara has been a person who tried and tried and tried to organize you all, and was ignored, TI kept getting better. See?

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#69 Added by Beeficus 1 decade ago [en]

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I do not use 3rd party software to control my alts. I have used 3rd party software more than 1 year ago before I was made aware that it is against the rules. I have never denied this. I have never used 3rd party software to help me dig or to give me any advantage during OP battles.

I find it interesting that you are trying to justify your guilds violation of the 3rd party software rule by saying "you do it so dont complain".

Again, try to divert from the issue all you like but we will not keep quiet about this any longer. We want to hear from the CSR team.

1. Is there still in fact a policy against the use of 3rd party software.
2. If so, will action be taken to prevent its use and punish violations of the policy.
3. What must we provide for you to take this seriously enough for some kind of action.

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#70 Added by Ciliana 1 decade ago [en]

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Liliang

Anyway, this is so stupid, turn cat production back up or find a way to fix it other then that occupation that nobody cares about and we'll have more cats then we know what to do with (they'll have to be given back),

I totally agree Liliang, That or remove cats all together and adjust the xp acordingly.

#71 Added by Beeficus 1 decade ago [en]

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Liliang

And to all kara's in general, every person that has ever come over to TI that was kara has been a person who tried and tried and tried to organize you all, and was ignored, TI kept getting better. See?

Im sorry, I dont know what you have been told by these people but I know of 4 converts in the last few months who do not fit in this statement. 3 ex-AA members and one ex-TPM. They each left due to personal differences with various people, and had nothing to do with coordination or being ignored.

I could list these people and their reasons, but that would be personal and completely off topic. If you care at all or are curious feel free to send me a tell.

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#72 Added by Liliang 1 decade ago [en]

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One of the two parts of my statement is still true. They've made TI better, and FYI they all have wonderful idea's and strategies so i thank you to not speak of them unkindly, we don't take well to that sort of thing. :)

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#73 Added by Stitch(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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Beeficus

I find it interesting that you are trying to justify your guilds violation of the 3rd party software rule by saying "you do it so dont complain".

I'm not trying to justify anything. All I'm saying is its very easy to make accusations, but without any proof then it means nothing. You think you know what Yaka and Nit does but you have no proof of anything. I think I know what you do when you dig but I don't have any proof of anything. Really though this has been handled by the CSRs before. Its been pointed out to you by people in this thread. So please spare us with this crap. It is just a big whine fest because you lost again. wha wha wha we can't beat TI so lets get them banned. same ol' crap different day.

#74 Added by Garuth(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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still dont get it, this arguement seems to boil down to me to yall saying "yes we had more people, but you still had too many, therefore you must be cheating"

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