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#106 [en] 

Garla
no you are not. it says quite plainly that you wont be told of any response to accusations you make to a csr. so there is no way for you to know that nothing has been done. send your ticket and you will never know if anything happens from it. so you cant even say that nothing has. might want to actually look at the rules on ttickets before you accuse them of ignoring you. They cant respond to you. it is against their rules.

They can and should respond. They can clarify that all tickets are taken seriously if that is in fact the case. They could also clarify what evidence needs to be provided and from how many people to warrant further action.

If it is not the case they could state outright the rule cannot be enforced and possibly abolish it, so that the arguement wont come up again.

There are a number of ways they could respond without commenting on specific players or guilds or tickets.

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#107 [en] 

it is not your place to pull this out on the forums and try to egg on the drama. there is a system for it. youo dont directly accuse people. you send a ticket. and you be happy with that. they have a systemt o deal with it and you dont get to know if any sanctions were thought approppriate. They will only talk about that to the player that is accused. instead you come here and try to stir drama by committing deliberate slander.

#108 [en] 

Beef

if your read the aripostle game rules you will see that they have clarified it. it is a few posts above this one.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Garla(arispotle) (1 decade ago)

#109 [en] 

Ganix
I have made an accusation against two persons who I believe are very good players, but that I do not believe have the ability to control as many characters as they do simultaneously without the aid of 3rd party software. I believe in what I saw not once, not twice, but several times. I believe, after seen it with my own eyes, the accounts of others when during conversation the subject was discussed. You may color the issue whatever you want, but as some of you guys have requested from us, there has been no concrete proof provided by you that makes my accusations false. They stand and I believe the need for a third party investigation to lay aside and clarify the issue. As I have stated before, if you are not doing anything wrong you should not fear the consequences of such an investigation. You state that the proper channels must be used. They have by several persons but a solution agreeable by both parties has not been found, therefore the issue persists.

The burdon of proof lies with the accuser not the accused. Yaka and Nit don't need to prove anything. You do. I tell you right now no 3rd party software has been used so prove otherwise.

What you're really saying though is "I submitted a ticket and didn't like the outcome so I'll make a drama post on the forums with some anonymous alt and cry until I do get the outcome I want."

#110 [en] 

Beeficus
1. Is there still in fact a policy against the use of 3rd party software.
LICENSE OF OUR MMORPG RYZOM
14. RULES OF BEHAVIOR OF RYZOM
You acknowledge that the proper functioning and success of an Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game such as Ryzom and/or Ryzom Ring depends on a delicate balance which Winch Gate Property Limited has to maintain.

The User is therefore strictly forbidden:
(a) to use any program or method to change the content or functionalities of the MMORPG;
(b) to cause the server to be overloaded;
(c) to use any procedure to make it easier to obtain any instruction faster than through the ordinary course of play;
(d) to modify the user interface or any other component in order to obtain objects, experience points, currency, characters' attributes, ranks, etc., other than as the result of proper normal use of the MMORPG;
(e) to buy, sell or transfer MMORPG characters or their attributes.

Furthermore, the User must at all times observe the Code of Conduct, the Courtesy Policies and the Ryzom Naming Charter displayed on the MMORPG's website at www.ryzom.com, whose contents are hereby declared an integral part of this Contract. We reserve the right to take any emergency measures on your account (including suspending or canceling it) which we think fit, if we believe that your use is contravening the above prohibitions.

I always thought that the points (a) and (c) are about the usage of 3rd party software in Ryzom.

Last edited by Trini (1 decade ago)

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#111 [en] 

think it might fit C, but I would think that was more a bot thing for gaining skills while afk. assuming instruction means experience

Last edited by Garuth(arispotle) (1 decade ago)

#112 [en] 

I think (b) could also apply :P

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#113 [en] 

Argue whatever side you want, but for the benefit of the newer players, these are the facts:

10-12 months ago we had a flame fest about this SAME topic. Finally the CSRs stepped into the post and stated that multi-boxing was fine, but using a single keystroke to invoke action in multiple characters was illegal. It didn't matter whether software or hardware was used. Multi-boxing was only legal if the player pushed a separate keystroke for each character. The result of this ruling was that many players were unhappy and temporarily left the game:
Nitrouss 9 months ago
We are all playing rift, over 1 million accounts on head start launch day, you can find us on Keenblade PvE server, they allow multiboxing and use of multiboxing programs :D

Perhaps the developers came to regret a ruling which cost them subscription revenues. Certainly they have been conspicuously absent and non-committal this time around. I can no longer find that prior multi-boxing post containing the developers ruling.

#114 [en] 

Your safest bet is to assume that Rzyom is the wild west and there is no law here. When was the last time anyone was banned for anything? Just play and have fun.

#115 [en] 

Beeficus
I really dont care about anything but getting the answers that will stop more players from leaving.

I can say one thing about this. Stop being a jerk. All you do is badmouth everyone. I have NEVER heard you say One nice thing about anyone. Let it be Kara, Kami or CSR. You keep demanding stuff and badmouthing everyone.
No wonder nobody likes you.... Your own guildies don't like you they tolerate you because you been playing Ryzom for a while that is the sad truth of it.

Zipp it sit in a corner and do your foraging with your 4 Bots.

#116 [en] 

To those of you new to Ryzom:
You can have as many accounts and (alt)ernate characters as you like.
It is forbidden to use technology that assists in playing the game unattended.
It is forbidden to use technology that can make auto keying, or spreading keypresses into multibox/clients.
Back in January 2011 Yumeroh (Head of Support and Community Manager) made this statement here

On provision of evidence that players have breached these game rules will be (and have been) sanctioned.
Evidence ,Judgements and sanctions are all confidential.

Last edited by Mokoi(arispotle) (1 decade ago)

#117 [en] 

Amnesia
Beeficus
I really dont care about anything but getting the answers that will stop more players from leaving.

I can say one thing about this. Stop being a jerk. All you do is badmouth everyone. I have NEVER heard you say One nice thing about anyone. Let it be Kara, Kami or CSR. You keep demanding stuff and badmouthing everyone.
No wonder nobody likes you.... Your own guildies don't like you they tolerate you because you been playing Ryzom for a while that is the sad truth of it.

Zipp it sit in a corner and do your foraging with your 4 Bots.

Just lol. :D Mind quoting me the badmouthing? Actually my Ryzom experience is limited, tho it started a while ago. For my time in TPM I achieved very little and learned very little about the game. Its only in the last 4 or 5 months that I have been active that I have actually done much in this game. This is the time I have spent in AA. I love my guildies and my only regret is that I dont have more time to spend with them :)

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Beeficus (1 decade ago)

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#118 [en] 

Yumeroh
So any software that it can make auto keying, or spreading keypresses into multibox is forbidden and will be dealt with by our team. So if CSR have conclusive evidence, or witness such activities all accounts concerned can be subject to sanctions

Mokoi, thank you for your response, could you please clarify what will be accepted as "conclusive evidence"? This is the issue. Due to your policy of steering well clear of OP battles, CSR's have declined to show up to "witness such activities". The topic here is the alleged use of 3rd party software to control many accounts during OP battles, to gain a substantial advantage that is proving extremely difficult to overcome.

What I have seen as well as many others cannot be explained by things like "uber gaming setups". No matter how many PC's and how much you spend on them you can only press keys on so many keyboards at once without growing extra arms. We feel that If it was witnessed from our point of view it would be undeniable.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Beeficus (1 decade ago) | Reason: Remembering my manners

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#119 [en] 

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#120 [en] 

Mokoi
To those of you new to Ryzom:
You can have as many accounts and (alt)ernate characters as you like.
It is forbidden to use technology that assists in playing the game unattended.
It is forbidden to use technology that can make auto keying, or spreading keypresses into multibox/clients.
Back in January 2011 Yumeroh (Head of Support and Community Manager) made this statement here

On provision of evidence that players have breached these game rules will be (and have been) sanctioned.
Evidence ,Judgements and sanctions are all confidential.

Just to clarity, one key press per client is the ruling factor then?

Last edited by Gorran (1 decade ago)

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