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Margote — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:43:34 +0000

Ryzom Forge meeting (October 14th 2024)

Date: monday, October 14th, 19:30 UTC (21:30 CEST)

Meeting places:

Atys, on the public forge channel

Ryzom Chat, channel #pub-forge-xx (ex https://chat.ryzom.com/channel/pub-forge-en

Duration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.

Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.

Agenda
Feedback on Ryzom 20th Anniversary

Ryzom Forge on Bitbucket

Kaetemi — Wed, 23 Jun 2021 08:36:04 +0000

Ryzom Forge
https://gitlab.com/ryzom
https://en.wiki.ryzom.com

Ryzom Core
https://github.com/ryzom
https://wiki.ryzom.dev

My experience with the Storyline Project

Heernis — Fri, 14 May 2021 10:07:06 +0000

My experience with the Storyline Project

There was a bark quake all over Atys that only affected the Nexus. Promptly, scientists were sent to the Nexus from every faction except the Rangers. At first, only map markers were to be searched for in order to "map" the map like a puzzle. Then more missions were added. One had to take the necklaces from the Gibbais for further research, and search for sublime material for research purposes, harvest it and hand it in.

As far as a good concept and in a group this is no problem, but if you ever want to do something solo, then you receive as always only frustration. But that is nothing new.

I have so far visited 2 events now and records of them are also available.

The first event "[Storyline] [Zorai] The secret of the Gibbai in the Nexus (02.05.2021)" was quite amusing. You could tell that the role of the character "Haido Xuan" was played well and you were guided through the event, so you can say that whether you like roleplaying or not, you felt like you were in good hands.

The second event "[Storyline] [Tryker] The Mystery of Gibbai in the Nexus: Experiments and Consequences (5/13/2021)" was a disaster. Don't take offense, but there's a difference between acting out a disaster in a role-playing way and being the disaster yourself. It was written in the announcement that there will be a disaster and yes there was. One after the other, so you got the feeling that the character "O'Banon Emmen" has no plan of anything and that the organizer just leaves the group to itself. Yes, there were callbacks, but somehow only indifference arrived. I think the organizer behind the character was simply overwhelmed that evening, at least that was my impression as an observer.

Also, the beginning could have been cut short, especially with the mobile research station in the dewdrop. Too much "boom and bang", which was only there to wake up the bored and asleep homins.

The Gibbais are already social, but then to put so many on a pile, I found very daring, since it is about role-playing and not a massacre. I really don't understand that if you want to let a baby gibbai return to its herd, it must also be that you still want to collect sap!? I thought that was the end of it. A good short story ends with a happy ending. It would have been nicer to let the gibbai baby return to its herd than to have the horde of gibbais attack us too. Also, especially since the time was advanced and you were looking at 2-2.5 hours and not 3 hours and more. You really don't have to just whip through everything. You could have just left the section with the sap for the next event.

Also, regarding livestreaming or recordings in general, it's quite boring.

1) Everyone is standing in a pile, characters are not animated according to the situation or what they are saying.
2) No speech bubble for characters controlled by the event team.

It's possible to make it less boring by speaking myself or adding other small animations, but that's usually best done only in post-production. Music and sound is also rather stale ingame. You can't really do anything about that. To make role-playing games really worth watching, you have to put a lot of work into it and also time, which I don't really have. And even then, when everything is spruced up that's missing ingame, it won't represent what Ryzom really is.
Anyway. I think livestreams at roleplaying events like this are just a waste of time. Post-produced recordings that are presented in a shortened form make more sense there.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Ranger TP: Exploitation of Game Mechanics

Fyrosfreddy — Wed, 08 May 2019 00:32:35 +0000

Wow ... ya go away for 6 months and look what ya miss. Nack 6+ months, any time I heard new folks asking about rangers, every ranger that I saw answer said. "We don't allow PvP in our guild" or "Rangers by definition, don't PvP.

As anyone who knows me would expect, I don't like the words "not allowed". Too my view, anyone who pays the same subscription price should be entitled to do anything they with **equal opportunity** across the board. With as little playing time as I can manage, guild and other IG responsibilities, I am surprised that anyone has the time to figure out and test "exploits".

While I am all for fifguring out, the mot efficient way to accomplish something, I don't like making things easier, There's no "winning ryzom". I like the idea of "cats" pre-merge, only because with 5 harvest trees and 39 craft trees ... you spend 87% of ya digging time for no XP. I saved my cats allocation for crafting. Post merge, I personally wish there was a way to "turn them off'. Or that you could pick one skill tree to apply them to ... and hen ya wanted to change ... a 30 day cool down.

There's prolly no person in the game that knows less about tagging than I do, but if someone really wanted to use an exploit in this situation, wouldn't it simply be easier stay untagged ?

The one thing great about "classes" in Ryzon is that no one in game has class ... :) ... well class restrictions. There are some minor ones such as TP locations (Kara Void / Kami SC) so I 100% support the notion that it be fixed at some point. However, I hope that problems like this which I would categorize as "growing pains" need to arise to the top of the heap and require all progress on everything else to cease.

When the boss lock thing was first brought to game, the 1st 2 bosses I was fighting against had incidents .... 1) after separating the boss from minions and struggling a bit with a small team, but slowly winning, had folks come in and start dragging minions on us.... 2) On the next one (same day, another small group .... some folks came along and huddled in our mage pod .... I reported both.

And tho I think the 2nd situation was addressed by a patch, I dunno how long it took ... I haven't run into the 1st one more than once or twice since.

In short, when making changes... certain situations simply may not be envisioned. If you would have told me rangers would be PvPing, I never woulda thot it would happen. I really don't see 'Ranger types' going this route ... tho I can see how folks that would use an exploit would "go ranger" in order to take advantage of it.

I reported the two instances I spoke of, but wasn't interested enough to follow progress. You did exactly what I would have done by reporting it. and I hope until it's fixed, now that it's accepted as an exploit, folks will be more reluctant to undertake it as a matter of personal pride, until it is addressed.

Ballance of Ranger gameplay

Naema — Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:59:14 +0000

I have to agree with some of Scoobys' thoughts and Bitttymacods': I think it is a huge disadvantage to have to "Go to a spot" to 'TP' to "Another Spot." It is very similar to the New horizons guys. So, imagine having to run out of town, find the NH guy, tp to a spot, then do it 2 more times to get to Forbidden depths, or somewhere else. So in my heart, some changes sound good, but also, I kind of like the difficulty, so I am torn. I kind of like the idea of not knowing if the Kipuckas are going to eat me when I TP to the void. Often, I laugh a lot when they do! lol. Sure, it is bothersome if I am running to help with a boss in PR. But it is funny and adds to the game for me. So, i think that I am opposed to making the ends of the paths safe spots. Unless, you can make a way for you to re-TP back, or in other words, run back into the 'pathway / cave' for safety if you see the kipuckas right on top of you? It's probably not worth implimenting in the game, and most would oppose or not use it, but it would make common sense. Maybe a 5 second 'safe' time, where you get 5 seconds to start running, or hit MPA or Invul. or TP back, or fight the sucker! :D

Otherwise, I find it a pain to TP to Zora, then run out of town to 'get to the spot,' then 'TP / use the path,' 2-3 times to get back to Wastelands near where I was when I died, BUT.... It is the path I chose! (pun intended) :D

So, I can accept the way things are now, and live without any changes although it be very difficult.

Ryzom Forge meeting report- 2017-11-20

Tamarea — Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:08:44 +0000

Management of Players ideas

I have a project fo better manage the "ideas fo the players": each player would have xx "vote points" to use by using them in his favourite players ideas. With the possibility to change his mind and so to take back points from an idea to give them to another one. When he'll have no free vote point left, he could not vote anymore. When an idea would be added ingame (and archived, tagged or anything else useful), the player would have back the points he gave to this idea.

Ex: 10 vote points for each player account. The player could share them between his favourite ideas (giving 10 points to one project, or 4 points to one, 1 to another one, etc. As he would want. Free system.
No free point left but a nice new idea: would have to choose. Renouncing to this new idea, or giving less points to another one. ^^
A project added ingame = he gets the given points back and can use them for other projects.

Of course, we should keep the current forum "Player Ideas" in archives and reopen a new one, for more clarity.

Comments:

Lyne: It's a number of points per account or per char? How many points do the F2P accounts have?

Tamarea: This remains to decide. Still in thinking. What do you think ?

Moniq: My first idea was exploit by more characters/accounts so do you suggest any way how to limit it?

Eleanide : That's a good idea if the vote is actually bind to the account. It will allow to see proposals and their popularity.

Moniq: Generally, I like the idea but I think this is the feature for p2p. Depends on how valuable 1 point will be. If 10 is significant, none for f2p, if 1000 points is not much, f2p can have 1 point to "test" the feature. We can also limit it by played time? how exclusive it supposed to be? Give points for played time, for example 1 point per Atys season, starting after 1st 2 days/weeks in game and/or getting level 35 + leaving Silan…

Tamarea: Seems too much difficult for a forum feature.

Lyne: I don't like the idea of the played time (I'm a bit too tired to explain it, but I could another day if you want).

Moniq @lyne: just suggestions how to limit exploiting with multimple accounts.

Tamarea: Would be possible to limit to Premium accounts, but what would we do with the points given by a player coming back to F2P?

Lyne: Don't change anything if the player goes back to F2P (keep his points where they were given but prevent him to change his vote).

Moniq @tamarea: can use points only when p2p, in time when unsubscribed it will be disallowed.

Eleanide: Only for P2P, then? Is that possible?

Tamarea: I think so, even if confirmation is needed.

Eleanide: Return to F2P = No more point for voting.

forge updates live on server

Naema — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 02:33:39 +0000

The Scenario Editor has begun....!

Public release with debug?

Herrah — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:06:20 +0000

I never take any screenshots. This mostly happens just in normal play and if running idle.

The normal debug messages do get logged for a bit but yes those stop. It is just the lines that I pasted that repeat over and over. I only saw log.log once and didn't pay any attention to it as it doesn't get huge and it didn't dawn on me to look it over closely.

If it happens again and that file pops up I'll look that over too.

I have not figured out where/how to compile the current code as every one of my old links I used years ago is either lacking info or dead links. Otherwise I'd help troubleshoot this.

For some odd reason, any edits I do the the cfg files prompts a patch over write. Aside from wiping out the cfg file leaving only that one line suggested earlier. All other changes get reverted.

Bilan des 2 ans de collaboration Ryzom/Khaganat

Naema — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:17:00 +0000

Yes, thank you so much for your hard work guys, and your labor of love. :D

autoupdateable guildmotd

Tyrralir — Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:32:34 +0000

I was thinking about the possibilty of making a guildmotd which depends on special entrys in guildfourm so you can bring more information to your guildmates by pointing them to special posts and makes guildleaders live a bit more easy.

Collaborative Project: Ryzom Forge

Tamarea — Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:04:53 +0000

Hello,

Holidays are quite over so Ryzom Forge meetings have restarted yesterday.

New region

Fyrosfreddy — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:55:55 +0000

Participate yes, benefit in the same way no. For example, lets use NH. As a citizen of a race, everyone gets double the points, fame and dapper as I do. As an Atys Citizen, I get 50%.

The same mechanic could be applied to Rangers as members of the "faction" responsible for the defense of Atys against the Kitin threat, they would benefit in a manner similar as do citizens of a race.

Kit du développeur

Deed — Tue, 31 May 2016 18:51:43 +0000

en anglais mais un peu vieux :
https://ryzomcore.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RC/Ryzom+Core+Home
sur irc freenode : #ryzom ou #ryzomforge

en français mais en cours de redaction et a jour :
https://khaganat.net/wikhan/fr:start
sur irc freenode : #khanat

mais sur mac , pour les outils il y a pas grand choses qui marche mais si tu t'y connais en c++ , tu peux les porter :))

Ryzom studio

Deed — Wed, 08 Jul 2015 07:07:26 +0000

Bonjour, je n'arrive pas a lancer rstudio !

J'ai windows 8.1 et suivi le tuto de ryzomcore.
(je pense installer debian bientot si sa peut aider)

Quand je compile, je n'ai pas le "with-studio" dans le cmake

Après je ne sais pas ou est mon erreur, je ne sais pas si j'ai mis dans les bon dossiers tous les copi/collé

Esque quelqu' un peut m'aider ici, irc ou sur atys ?

Ryzom Forge's meetings

Talkirc — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:44:21 +0000

i like the calendar idea, as it's something everyone see's from time to time. and that give's it a more "official feel".

just my 2 dappers on the idea :)

talkIRC

Transférer les articles de Khaganat sur Ryzom Forge ?

Zorroargh — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:57:49 +0000

Hum, 150 pages is not very heavy and doesn't need a "big" dev. With a script I'm doing a semi-automatical transfer. I can easily make two per days, during my patrol tour in the wikis, with no hurry at all. So 3 mounths for migration is shorter then make full automatical scripts, and surely than translation from FR to other languages.

On the other hand, I cann't transfer picture. Keep in mind, that images has to be in the "common" of the wiki, and that one need make the uploading from a local directory.

Interface reload command

Syphox — Sat, 14 Mar 2015 09:30:04 +0000

Hi, it will be nice if the upcomming patchlet v7 mod system will have an interface reload command. That will be much easier to test faster mods than relogs. I hope this is possible.

That's a little request to the dev's :)

can't get ryzom forge wiki access

Talkirc — Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:12:40 +0000

it's fixed now and for that i'm thankful, everything else is a mute point.

Mélanger l'origine des mp pour des plans de tribu ?

Zendae — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:17:13 +0000

hein ? on parle des Amazones ? :)

NewZone

Remigra — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:26:06 +0000

^^ nun jetzt hat er ja noch mehr Schwung seit der Neuverteilung der Forge Gruppen und dessen Öffnung für jeden ^^

wir können Die ganzen Gedanken aus Virg´s Tread und die von wiedii zusammenlegen und daraus ein vollkommen neues Konzept begründen.
schließlich gibt es genügend Inhalte die dort zusammen getragen wurden ^^

wird es unsere Aufgabe sein, daraus ein vollkommen neues und eigenes Konzept zu erstellen . aus alle dem was zusammen getragen wurde.
jedoch immer im Auge sollten wir behalten das es ins Universum von Ryzom passen muss ;)

ich freu mich schon auf das Meeting für diese Forge-Gruppe ^^

New zone landscape modeling

Gersen — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:02:32 +0000

ok I see, thank you Sir :)

Log Ryzomforge

Tamarea — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 15:29:43 +0000

Laofa (atys)

Pour les op qui ont les droits suffisants, la commande à entrer est la suivante :
/msg chanserv set [#channel] entrymsg [message] 
En remplaçant [#channel] par le nom du canal et [message] par le message, par exemple :
/msg chanserv set #ryzomforge entrymsg Ilogyou log you ! http://khaganat.net/irc/logryzom.php
Ce message là s'affichera à la connexion, sans ajouter des infos à un titre souvent surchargé. Le titre est plus adapté aux "infos du jour", vu qu'il est plus simple à modifier et visible tout le temps dans la plupart des clients.

Message ajouté, merci pour le conseil (et la commande) !