I don't think Freddy was saying that Atys is or should be Arispotle. I feel like he was pointing out that there are not only different ways to play there are different mindsets on how to make the game enjoyable for the majority. And there is always a choice. Back then there was still quite a few people that didn't agree with the all for one for all mentality but it still worked for us.
People keep bringing up the "pay to win" argument. I'm not sure exactly what is being won here, no one is uber and taking over the entire server. I have an alt. Yesterday I was on for 5 hours and got 1 level in dig because cutlers are jerks. If I'm paying to win, I clearly need a refund. If people with multiple alts were camping everything, hording all the good stuff and being all around general douches; I might feel different about them. But they aren't. They're all decent people and help everyone.
Again the real problem is 3RD PARTY PROGRAMS that allow a player to not do anything but start it up and let it go. I watched someone do this for a good 2 hours one day. The main and 1 alt were digging and getting aggroed. I was close enough to be in sight too. I would have to kill whatever, then I'd rez the 2 and watch them continue digging with out missing a beat. Should I have reported? Yeah, probably but I didn't. To be fair, it made my last levels in forest interesting and they were digging junky mats so what do I really care? BUT that's the thing that needs dealt with, not the people that are actually skilled at running 4 toons.
People keep bringing up the "pay to win" argument. I'm not sure exactly what is being won here, no one is uber and taking over the entire server. I have an alt. Yesterday I was on for 5 hours and got 1 level in dig because cutlers are jerks. If I'm paying to win, I clearly need a refund. If people with multiple alts were camping everything, hording all the good stuff and being all around general douches; I might feel different about them. But they aren't. They're all decent people and help everyone.
Again the real problem is 3RD PARTY PROGRAMS that allow a player to not do anything but start it up and let it go. I watched someone do this for a good 2 hours one day. The main and 1 alt were digging and getting aggroed. I was close enough to be in sight too. I would have to kill whatever, then I'd rez the 2 and watch them continue digging with out missing a beat. Should I have reported? Yeah, probably but I didn't. To be fair, it made my last levels in forest interesting and they were digging junky mats so what do I really care? BUT that's the thing that needs dealt with, not the people that are actually skilled at running 4 toons.
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