I didn’t bring this up in universal channel last night because I knew it would get all kinds of reactions. This morning I decided to forget it, but a couple of minutes ago once again there was an unpleasant discussion about English only in Uni chat because someone happened to say Ola. I’m Spanish and I found the comments made offensive but I was more offended by the one player's ignorance than anything else. I bring it to the forum so we can have an ADULT conversation about other languages in universal channel.
There is a small flux of Spanish players joining Ryzom, though a very small one they have yet to find their place in game. Some of us are trying to help them but we need more cooperation and tolerance by the community that likes to police universal chat. Try and understand that these players are new to the game and they need help too. Be mindful that when someone asks a question in another language in universal channel they don’t need to be told English only. They don’t need to be told to go to the French server. What they need is direction to the proper channel where they can find help. The people asking for help in other languages in universal chat do so because they can’t speak English. If you can’t help them then have some patience whiles someone who can reach them and guide them to the proper channel or a private tell. In case you weren’t aware Ryzom is played in five different languages and there aren’t enough servers to fit us all, and Aristotle happens to be the server for Spanish and Russian speaking players. Universal chat is there to help players, let’s try not to make non-English speakers feel like outcasts because they are using Uni chat to find help.
Right now when a player enters game and changes language mode the universal channel rules are translated so they can understand that Uni is a Q&A channel. Players asking players that don’t speak English to speak English in universal channel is senseless when the game is telling them in their language to use Universal channel for Q&A. And not having a GM to monitor the abuse in this channel doesn't help matters either.
Uni chat needs to be more flexible on the language issue. What we should be clamoring is for the WG team to ADD permanent channels in the five languages the game can be played so these players find the help they need, without being belittled.
Players who speak other languages have the same issues English speaking players have when they come to Ryzom, they need answers to questions about the game but can’t find players that speak their language. They are not spamming the channel with nonsense like many already do with announcements like “oh hi I just logged in did you noticed me yet?”. However cute and friendly it seems that kind of chat should not be done in Uni period, otherwise don’t show such comradely and then be assholes to everyone else. The players that speak other languages should be encouraged and supported because they can grow to love the game and subscribe and help their own language speaking community get organized and grow.
A channel for Latino players was created and I think there already is a channel for Russian players. But these channels are not visible to everyone like the universal channel is. You can help by telling the Spanish speaking players to log in to /channel Latinos Unidos (I’m not sure what the address is for the Russian channel). And if there are other channels for players of other languages why not start a list and sticky them on the forum so that we can all help them find their comrades.
Last night a player was looking for some assistance because he was having a hard time disconnecting and having to relog to reset language was frustrating. When he asked in universal channel for the Latino channel he was directed to it, but already there was the comment asking for English only and then it became a joke. It is okay to police the channel from spammers but when policing starts to feel more like bullying and prejudiced then is time to have a discussion and find a way to improve the issue before it gets any worst.
I think we should discuss changing the rules of universal channel, improve the translation of this channel in other languages, and improve players understanding of its use. Or, WG should seriously consider adding five Q&A channels - one for each language Ryzom is available for play.
There is a small flux of Spanish players joining Ryzom, though a very small one they have yet to find their place in game. Some of us are trying to help them but we need more cooperation and tolerance by the community that likes to police universal chat. Try and understand that these players are new to the game and they need help too. Be mindful that when someone asks a question in another language in universal channel they don’t need to be told English only. They don’t need to be told to go to the French server. What they need is direction to the proper channel where they can find help. The people asking for help in other languages in universal chat do so because they can’t speak English. If you can’t help them then have some patience whiles someone who can reach them and guide them to the proper channel or a private tell. In case you weren’t aware Ryzom is played in five different languages and there aren’t enough servers to fit us all, and Aristotle happens to be the server for Spanish and Russian speaking players. Universal chat is there to help players, let’s try not to make non-English speakers feel like outcasts because they are using Uni chat to find help.
Right now when a player enters game and changes language mode the universal channel rules are translated so they can understand that Uni is a Q&A channel. Players asking players that don’t speak English to speak English in universal channel is senseless when the game is telling them in their language to use Universal channel for Q&A. And not having a GM to monitor the abuse in this channel doesn't help matters either.
Uni chat needs to be more flexible on the language issue. What we should be clamoring is for the WG team to ADD permanent channels in the five languages the game can be played so these players find the help they need, without being belittled.
Players who speak other languages have the same issues English speaking players have when they come to Ryzom, they need answers to questions about the game but can’t find players that speak their language. They are not spamming the channel with nonsense like many already do with announcements like “oh hi I just logged in did you noticed me yet?”. However cute and friendly it seems that kind of chat should not be done in Uni period, otherwise don’t show such comradely and then be assholes to everyone else. The players that speak other languages should be encouraged and supported because they can grow to love the game and subscribe and help their own language speaking community get organized and grow.
A channel for Latino players was created and I think there already is a channel for Russian players. But these channels are not visible to everyone like the universal channel is. You can help by telling the Spanish speaking players to log in to /channel Latinos Unidos (I’m not sure what the address is for the Russian channel). And if there are other channels for players of other languages why not start a list and sticky them on the forum so that we can all help them find their comrades.
Last night a player was looking for some assistance because he was having a hard time disconnecting and having to relog to reset language was frustrating. When he asked in universal channel for the Latino channel he was directed to it, but already there was the comment asking for English only and then it became a joke. It is okay to police the channel from spammers but when policing starts to feel more like bullying and prejudiced then is time to have a discussion and find a way to improve the issue before it gets any worst.
I think we should discuss changing the rules of universal channel, improve the translation of this channel in other languages, and improve players understanding of its use. Or, WG should seriously consider adding five Q&A channels - one for each language Ryzom is available for play.