I actually spoke to Tgmage tonight in game, first in uni then via tell. Initially I mistakenly thought he was just moaning again about game mechanics like others who have come from games like WoW. During our conversation I realised my mistake, for which I apologise, and changed my impression completely. I now believe that his comments are born from a frustration for what Ryzom should be. I see my old passion in him and that is not a bad thing.
That brings me to the point of my post, an attempt at explaining perspective, at least mine anyway. Ryzom has been around for a long time and has a very troubled history. I, for one, have played this game since its very early beta days, back in the days when gaming magazines were hailing it as a revolutionary concept in MMOs (at that point WoW didnt exist). I played through FBT (hence the Elder of Atys title that I am very proud of) and the very early days of the game going live, I've been through all of the history and it doesnt need re-hashing here. Suffice to say I have a deep love for this game and I don't visit Atys for the ding.
For me it isnt easy to explain to anyone who hasn't lived through Ryzom's history what it means to some of us (try reading Chasing the Ding in my signature for a tiny part of it). To me Ryzom isnt about digging, fighting, shooting, healing or any of that (yet how many games let you do them all with one toon?). It's about the starscape when you look up at night in the desert. It's about the snow scenes in Matis lands (at least it stops raining then). It's about the sunset over Flaming Forest, my favourite time of day. It's about the habits of the creatures if you stop to actually watch them (I was taught to do that by another old timer). It's about how a Varynx circles its prey after a kill before it feeds. It's about attending the memorial to an old friend who died but his family knew he cared so much about Ryzom that his son-in-law brought his character back in game one last time -Sixxus you were one of a kind. You werent the only time I shed tears over Ryzom but you were the one that meant most.
The programmers from Nevrax who made this world created a beautiful, vibrant, varied world full of life and then they put a game in it. The shame is that the original dream has yet to be fulfilled.
You newer players that voice your frustrations about the imperfections have to appreciate that we have been there, we have shared your frustrations and we have, to some extent, come to terms with them. We have been through a lot more than just playing a game. We don't mean to shoot you down, we don't mean to sound like we are attacking you for criticising. We try to just get you to see that with Ryzom things dont change so fast. We try to get you to see things from our perspective but that isnt fair because you werent there. I was as passionate and vocal as any of you new homins (certainly where PvP is concerned; right Jayce?) but now I just go with the flow. Ryzom is flawed, so is life, but at least Ryzom still lives. I for one am just happy to still be able to walk the desert.
To you old timers like me, give these guys some slack, at least they care enough to voice an opinion, they want Ryzom to get better, they want a future, so do we all.
Anyone who cares to is welcome to come see my version of Atys. It may not help but it will give you something to see that you might not have spotted before. I was pleased to find out that Tgmage has.
That brings me to the point of my post, an attempt at explaining perspective, at least mine anyway. Ryzom has been around for a long time and has a very troubled history. I, for one, have played this game since its very early beta days, back in the days when gaming magazines were hailing it as a revolutionary concept in MMOs (at that point WoW didnt exist). I played through FBT (hence the Elder of Atys title that I am very proud of) and the very early days of the game going live, I've been through all of the history and it doesnt need re-hashing here. Suffice to say I have a deep love for this game and I don't visit Atys for the ding.
For me it isnt easy to explain to anyone who hasn't lived through Ryzom's history what it means to some of us (try reading Chasing the Ding in my signature for a tiny part of it). To me Ryzom isnt about digging, fighting, shooting, healing or any of that (yet how many games let you do them all with one toon?). It's about the starscape when you look up at night in the desert. It's about the snow scenes in Matis lands (at least it stops raining then). It's about the sunset over Flaming Forest, my favourite time of day. It's about the habits of the creatures if you stop to actually watch them (I was taught to do that by another old timer). It's about how a Varynx circles its prey after a kill before it feeds. It's about attending the memorial to an old friend who died but his family knew he cared so much about Ryzom that his son-in-law brought his character back in game one last time -Sixxus you were one of a kind. You werent the only time I shed tears over Ryzom but you were the one that meant most.
The programmers from Nevrax who made this world created a beautiful, vibrant, varied world full of life and then they put a game in it. The shame is that the original dream has yet to be fulfilled.
You newer players that voice your frustrations about the imperfections have to appreciate that we have been there, we have shared your frustrations and we have, to some extent, come to terms with them. We have been through a lot more than just playing a game. We don't mean to shoot you down, we don't mean to sound like we are attacking you for criticising. We try to just get you to see that with Ryzom things dont change so fast. We try to get you to see things from our perspective but that isnt fair because you werent there. I was as passionate and vocal as any of you new homins (certainly where PvP is concerned; right Jayce?) but now I just go with the flow. Ryzom is flawed, so is life, but at least Ryzom still lives. I for one am just happy to still be able to walk the desert.
To you old timers like me, give these guys some slack, at least they care enough to voice an opinion, they want Ryzom to get better, they want a future, so do we all.
Anyone who cares to is welcome to come see my version of Atys. It may not help but it will give you something to see that you might not have spotted before. I was pleased to find out that Tgmage has.
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Elder Of AtysChasing the DING!
katriell
You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
Remickla (atys)
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.