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Multiboxing

Jazzy
Fyrosfreddy,
Merci de rendre ton post traductible!!!
Surtout quand c’est un pavé qu’on aurait peiné à lire dans notre propre langue.
Merci.

[Ajout de Tamarea] C'est fait, son post est traduisible.

Unfortunately, I had no control over this .... my "flag" kept changing to french ... I was having to reset it every time I came on the forum ... even after this post.    After some support discussions on RC, I think it's finally fixed.
Syron

Et ce post est censé plaidé en faveur de quoi? D'un Arispotle-like ou tout le monde il est beau?

Une bonne partie des joueurs français ont un jeu aux antipodes du votre et les anglais dictent leur façon de jouer depuis bientôt 8 ans.
Tu dis toi même que sur votre ancien serveur, le lore des factions ne servaient à rien puisqu'il n'y avait pas (ou peu) de confrontation. Super!

Yes it was great .... Please explain what do you object to with "in your words" "Arispotle" people doing what they like to do, Aniro folk doing what they like to do and Leanon folk doing what they want to do ?  Or anyone else.   I go to a restaurant and it has menu choices ... people who don't want to eat red meat have options ... people whp prefer seafood have options, people who want a salad have that option.   What's with the "No damn it, you will eat hot dogs, you will pay for them and like it" routine !

I don't pay my monthly subscription to make your game enjoyable the way you want to play it.  A subset of the player base, from all servers but mostly Aniro,  treats Atys like Napoleon and demands that everyone play their way ... that is not goiung to happen because if it does, the game can not survive.    You wanna make believe you are a  superhero, you have the right to do so, and I'm fine with that  fine ... you want to make belive you are an evil sociopath, you have the right to do so and I'm fine with that .... but you don't have the right to dicate that anyone else  join your imaginarly world.

Sinvaders
The reason of why most of the things are happening EU time is because the majority of volunteers are on this timezone.
And they are volunteers not employees

Ok so since we are getting less services ... less content, less access to rewards, etc.,  ..... and missing all these "RP Events" because we are sleeping, it could be argued that subscriptions should be different and priced accordingly based upon access to this content.

Could also be said that thewestern folk "subsidizing" the euro folk.  What about the folks down under ?  I spend at least 2/3 my logged in time creating tools, testing DMs, filing bug reports.  You want people  to pay the same, get less and, ..... on top of that,  change our play styles to fit the game YOU enjoy  ?
Xiom
Fyrosfreddy
Not all MMORPGs condone multiboxing.... Not all MMORPGs condone multiboxing....Ryzom has always been one of them


et bien allez jouer sur ces jeux puisque le multiboxing y est autorisé !

Please reread the existing terms and conditions, you seem to have misread.  Ryzom *** IS *** one of them.  Always has been.
Heernis
Einverstanden. Aber ein Fakt ist, dass jedes MMORPG nicht fürs Multiboxing kreiert wurde, sondern nur eine nicht dafür gedachte Anwendungsmöglichkeit ist, die aus der Notwendigkeit von mehreren Charakteren und einer geringen Spielerbasis entstanden ist.

Interesting and thoughtful interpretation that made me think on several topics but I don't see how anyone that was not "in the room" is in a position to say what it was created for.  But these facts remain:

1.  Nevrax not only "did not prohibit" MB but spefically coded it into the game with the "/multi command".  Didn't even need a 2nd account early on.  And they specifically made a point of adding it in the CoC.  I am therefore unable to "make the leap" to reach the "wasn't created for" conclusion when the devs went through the trouble of creating specific coding allowing it.

2.  Every ownership since has specifically addressed it in the CoC.

I have 4 PCs and 2 laptops in this room.  I choose not to use multiple toons ... I consider using a dig or heal slave a personal affront to my toon's "character" if you will or perhaps better said, I'm here for the entertainment and the challenge; for me that challenge is doing things w/o alts.

But I also don't see it within my purview to dictate how other players play the game ... I find it very uncomfortable that other players do.

Erisapple
What the actual F? Those of you that are butt-hurt need to stop and just play your own toon your own way. Because what it really boils down to is that some of you think your way is the only way. That's not how it is.

The real problem, AGAIN, is that the use of 3rd party programs needs to be dealt with and stopped at the client level.

AFAIK, no one has been found to be using any 3rd party tool.  This has been investigated and the powers that be have found that a) the individual is controlling the alts within the rules of the game and b)  the allegations were false.

Outside of politics "people are saying" does not constutute the burden of proof.  The evidence has been voluntarily submitted, thoroughly examined and charges soundly refuted.   People just have to accept the fact that certain players have developed a skill level, within the boundary of the existing game rules that exceeds their own and they simply don't want to to have to admit that fact to themseves.

On one hand, I have no axe to grind ... on the other I know little about the skills involved to master it.   I play the game to give my brain a rest, work is stressful; make a mistake and things fall down and people die.  I don't want to "relax" by concentrating on doing 4-5 things at once.

The only argument I see against MB falls under the "pay to win" concept" .  I once had 3 accounts ... my own and 2 of my sons.    Is me playing all 3 really that different than having each of them play.   It's a hard questions because the answer will always depend upon where you are sitting .... and I'm not even sitting in the room since I don't use alts ever.

Since the opportunity is open to all, the only complaint can be ... "he / she is better than me and I can't compte" because a) I can't afford to or b)  I don't have the skills.

a)  This can be considered unfair
b)  This is just "whinerbagging"

On the admin side, why process 5 transactions paying 5 sets of processing fees. What if anything could be done with a different type of account that allows 1 processing fee and allows X number of toons to launch ?   Perhaps do a deal for $34.95 for up to 5 toons and I womder if that would allow closer activity monitoring so that all the imagined 3rd party software / botting fears would go away.

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