@Revvy - In that case, they may want to do a better job of accommodating those who cannot attend events at 11am on a weekday. I'm not saying adults and casuals should earn equal rewards, just that we should earn enough to actually have it worth our time to play and our money to subscribe. Of course those who have the luxury of free time because they dont' work nearly as hard at RL should get more for their added effort; I'm simply saying that this game should not be a second job. If I wanted to work more than I already do, I would not be doing it for virtual rewards like game stats/items; I would be paying off some medical debts quicker so I might be able to actually retire someday.
You are correct that appealing to too wide a demographic can lead to failure, but so can appealing to too narrow a demographic. And something that has been increasingly true over the years I've been here is that the demographic that Ryzom seems to be targeting is solely Lore-worshipping, restriction-loving Francophones who live between UTC and UTC+3. Live in the wrong time zone? No RP events or OPs for you! Don't speak French even as a fourth language? No lore for you! Work full-time and spend less than 12 hours a day at home to eat, sleep, clean, shop, and otherwise be a functional adult in addition to having some wind-down/leisure time? No sense of reward or progression for you! If any of that sounds even the least bit flippant or hyperbolic then it's time for some SERIOUS PR damage control. I've watched a lot of good folks get pushed away by that, and I see quite a few more that had one foot out the door before this patch who feel that this patch continues that trend. How about if we try putting a stop to that? Maybe make it a game where people will want to keep logging in, maybe paying subs? I mean, the alternative is to shrink the community further and deprive WG of fundage by making folks (some of them subbed, a few with multiple subbed accounts) leave in disgust (some taking their money with them).
Now, I don't mind putting in a couple hours a night to dig a couple packers so I can craft a couple levels, and I have no problem with those who live a more charmed life being able to power through 10 levels in the time it takes me to get 2. However, if I have to wait 2 days for a mission that others can do every day, it's not a matter of "easy peasy"; the @^&*%ing clock needs adjusting. The 23h timer of NH was perfectly fine, so lets go with things that allow one to do the same mission about the same time every time instead of effectively adding 24h because one has responsibilities outside of Ryzom?
And while there is already some faction rebalancing going on, but it still seems like those of us who do not pick a nation and a religion are not on equal footing with those who do. Lets give Maras and Rangers a shot at earning the same rewards K/K-worshiping citizens get, alright?
We should accommodate a wider range than we do. Some folks need to learn what a sandbox is and remember that freedom is a selling point for Ryzom; it's even on the front page of the official website. There needs to be some recognition that there is an entire planet out there that is not exactly like the ~100miles/~160km surrounding one's home. In short, there needs to be more understanding.
Yes, we should have a more player-driven team. Sadly, that would mean many would have to choose between being a player or being on that team; there are not enough hours in the day for both. Also, we should have some folks work on translating what is already there; DeepL and GooTran are good for a laugh, but not for actual translation.
As for NH, the dappers and fame never were the real draw there for many (myself included). Just because those who had +100 fame got overpaid, that is no reason to deprive those of us who want to do more with our time than just package runs of any chance to earn points. Maybe a next step would be to have more ways to earn points, preferably some that don't take so long that those of us who work for a living can't do them at all yet still have decent enough rewards to not be a waste of dev's time to add in.
You are correct that appealing to too wide a demographic can lead to failure, but so can appealing to too narrow a demographic. And something that has been increasingly true over the years I've been here is that the demographic that Ryzom seems to be targeting is solely Lore-worshipping, restriction-loving Francophones who live between UTC and UTC+3. Live in the wrong time zone? No RP events or OPs for you! Don't speak French even as a fourth language? No lore for you! Work full-time and spend less than 12 hours a day at home to eat, sleep, clean, shop, and otherwise be a functional adult in addition to having some wind-down/leisure time? No sense of reward or progression for you! If any of that sounds even the least bit flippant or hyperbolic then it's time for some SERIOUS PR damage control. I've watched a lot of good folks get pushed away by that, and I see quite a few more that had one foot out the door before this patch who feel that this patch continues that trend. How about if we try putting a stop to that? Maybe make it a game where people will want to keep logging in, maybe paying subs? I mean, the alternative is to shrink the community further and deprive WG of fundage by making folks (some of them subbed, a few with multiple subbed accounts) leave in disgust (some taking their money with them).
Now, I don't mind putting in a couple hours a night to dig a couple packers so I can craft a couple levels, and I have no problem with those who live a more charmed life being able to power through 10 levels in the time it takes me to get 2. However, if I have to wait 2 days for a mission that others can do every day, it's not a matter of "easy peasy"; the @^&*%ing clock needs adjusting. The 23h timer of NH was perfectly fine, so lets go with things that allow one to do the same mission about the same time every time instead of effectively adding 24h because one has responsibilities outside of Ryzom?
And while there is already some faction rebalancing going on, but it still seems like those of us who do not pick a nation and a religion are not on equal footing with those who do. Lets give Maras and Rangers a shot at earning the same rewards K/K-worshiping citizens get, alright?
We should accommodate a wider range than we do. Some folks need to learn what a sandbox is and remember that freedom is a selling point for Ryzom; it's even on the front page of the official website. There needs to be some recognition that there is an entire planet out there that is not exactly like the ~100miles/~160km surrounding one's home. In short, there needs to be more understanding.
Yes, we should have a more player-driven team. Sadly, that would mean many would have to choose between being a player or being on that team; there are not enough hours in the day for both. Also, we should have some folks work on translating what is already there; DeepL and GooTran are good for a laugh, but not for actual translation.
As for NH, the dappers and fame never were the real draw there for many (myself included). Just because those who had +100 fame got overpaid, that is no reason to deprive those of us who want to do more with our time than just package runs of any chance to earn points. Maybe a next step would be to have more ways to earn points, preferably some that don't take so long that those of us who work for a living can't do them at all yet still have decent enough rewards to not be a waste of dev's time to add in.
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