Moniq - You have never considered any argument against your fanatically restrictive interpretation of lore "solid" in the past anyways, so I am not surprised that you are unwilling to accept that those who are impartial do not discriminate in a partisan manner; that the unbiased have no biases. Keep on saying neutral is neither impartial nor unbiased no matter how many dictionaries define it as such. But that will not change the simple truth that when Neutral is not neutral, then neutrality is not really neutrality.
As for Rangers being 130% of K/K, you ignore that the advantage of being able to be in a guild that would likely have been Neutral or Ranger had that been a possibility years ago is not nearly as big an advantage of being able to get to a 250/PR zone without a detour and a run to a specific spot the way we have to now. I would normally allow for the possibility that you have far different priorities than I do, but unlike you, I do not consider forced segregation to be a good thing.
Lastly, if Ranger is a screwed faction and (what passes for) neutral is so awesome, then when are you turning in your map and trekking to all the 250/PR areas? Besides, you refute that the truth is our only faith by clinging to falsehoods, and your desire for segregation goes against "Synergy, sharing and solidarity are our social rules" and "Unity is our strength", so you're halfway out of Rangerhood already.
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Fyrosfreddy - I did not mean to argue against what you said, merely express skepticism that your words would matter to those who refuse to change their thinking no matter how many facts or how much logic is used. To them, the Lore that was written 15 + years ago is inviolable and immutable, and nothing you or I say will change that... though it may get them to try burning us for heresy. And the fact that the game is actually played vastly differently from "the original expectation" seems to be a real issue for some folks.
When you say, "The argument that the 15 year old lore is carved in stone and can not be modified is a fundamentalist thought that rejects the history of human existence.", you are pretty much restating my position. That is what I've been trying to get across to those who refuse to allow Atys to progress/evolve.
As for your last line, that is why my sig block is what it is. When you say "a % of the player base", are you including all players or simply those who come to these forums? Because I know a lot of long-time players who wouldn't touch this place with a ten foot pole. I consider their opinions just as valid as those who do come here, but I doubt they are ever taken into consideration. Some say they are the majority, but if you have 10 folks vote one way, 7 vote the other, and 20 who don't even know the vote is taking place, are those 10 really the majority?
As for Rangers being 130% of K/K, you ignore that the advantage of being able to be in a guild that would likely have been Neutral or Ranger had that been a possibility years ago is not nearly as big an advantage of being able to get to a 250/PR zone without a detour and a run to a specific spot the way we have to now. I would normally allow for the possibility that you have far different priorities than I do, but unlike you, I do not consider forced segregation to be a good thing.
Lastly, if Ranger is a screwed faction and (what passes for) neutral is so awesome, then when are you turning in your map and trekking to all the 250/PR areas? Besides, you refute that the truth is our only faith by clinging to falsehoods, and your desire for segregation goes against "Synergy, sharing and solidarity are our social rules" and "Unity is our strength", so you're halfway out of Rangerhood already.
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Fyrosfreddy - I did not mean to argue against what you said, merely express skepticism that your words would matter to those who refuse to change their thinking no matter how many facts or how much logic is used. To them, the Lore that was written 15 + years ago is inviolable and immutable, and nothing you or I say will change that... though it may get them to try burning us for heresy. And the fact that the game is actually played vastly differently from "the original expectation" seems to be a real issue for some folks.
When you say, "The argument that the 15 year old lore is carved in stone and can not be modified is a fundamentalist thought that rejects the history of human existence.", you are pretty much restating my position. That is what I've been trying to get across to those who refuse to allow Atys to progress/evolve.
As for your last line, that is why my sig block is what it is. When you say "a % of the player base", are you including all players or simply those who come to these forums? Because I know a lot of long-time players who wouldn't touch this place with a ten foot pole. I consider their opinions just as valid as those who do come here, but I doubt they are ever taken into consideration. Some say they are the majority, but if you have 10 folks vote one way, 7 vote the other, and 20 who don't even know the vote is taking place, are those 10 really the majority?
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Do not assume that you speak for all just because you are the loudest voice; there are many who disagree that simply have no desire to waste words on you.