3 Dev group
3.1 Documents about datasheets
YannK:
"I have finished listing all the definition datasheets on our wiki, with one page for each and every single parameter mentionned. This should make it possible to better understand and document each of them.
I also described the settings of all the .sitem and some of the .creature. See : https://khaganat.net/wikhan/fr:tag:informatique:ryzom_core:datash eet:start
I did not go further, I reached saturation point after that. The introductory pages remain to be put on our wiki, it is in my todo list, but otherwise one can search in the search bar with one of the terms of the datasheets that one wants to create.
I think that in the end, when the documentation has been written and tested enough, all this can be put directly in the DFN files, to be seen. Thus, there are 700 DFN files waiting for you!
3.2 Update of clients from V2 to V3
Kervala:
"- The packaging for the Ubuntu Library has changed and it is impossible to use the old system (the admin page is read-only).
- The new packaging system for the Ubuntu repository is using Snapcraft and is still under development.
- This system is using a sandbox system, meaning that one cannot use the system theme, cannot write in the directory we want and all the files needed to launch the installer are included within a disk image. The whole weights 74 MB compressed and more than 400 MB decompressed ... for a 5 MB installer ...
- I sent a message to a developer at Canonical to ask if there is another way to update Ryzom, but I got no answer yet.
- I upgraded the ryzom-isv PPA with the latest versions of Ryzom Installer. The ones who are using Ubuntu or Debian (or any other Debian-based distribution) can use it because I compiled it under Debian Squeeze and everything is static.
- As long as Canonical's guys have not finalized their docs and as long as their system is so limited, it is not good to use it to package Ryzom; there are more disadvantages than advantages. So, as for me, I won't publish any Snapcraft package on the Ubuntu repository.
Q: I don't know if this is the right place, but I have a question related to the code/development part for the project.
We have already discussed the difficulty of gathering the doc in one place (too much work, not enough people), and I am considering a solution, but I need a web developer. It is simply to build a search bot that scans and indexes the various sites of the constellation, and collects everything on a search engine. Maybe it already exists, where there would only need to fill the sites to be indexed from, I don't know. In any case, I know it's doable.
I'm asking now because I know that there are many coders who are following the meeting, so some may know how to do it.
A Zerotacg: actually there are some predefined components to do that, feed elasticsearch from some indexer and make a simple page to make search queries and present the results for example. Not sure what the actual data you want to index is though
Zatalyz : Data is information on the technical wikis of Khaganat, Ryzom, Ryzom Core & Ryzom Forge.
Nilstilar: https://www.elastic.co/fr/
Zerotacg: Actually crawling the sites like google does might be a bit toi much but you kind of admin access and can export a dump of the data, can you?
Zatalyz: No, crawling is better. But we can speak about that in an other channel, I don't want to stop the meeting :)
3.3 Reversibility of subscriptions
Once implemented, this project will allow the unsubscribed accounts to play with "free to play" rights. There will therefore be two types of accounts: "Free to play" (ie non-subscribers and unsubscribed) and "Premiums" (ie subscribers).
It is important to note that the "free to play" accounts will have rights slightly different from their current rights, but that these will not be diminished. An announcement will be made to detail the changes made.
Final adjustments are in progress following feedback from the testers.
3.1 Documents about datasheets
YannK:
"I have finished listing all the definition datasheets on our wiki, with one page for each and every single parameter mentionned. This should make it possible to better understand and document each of them.
I also described the settings of all the .sitem and some of the .creature. See : https://khaganat.net/wikhan/fr:tag:informatique:ryzom_core:datash eet:start
I did not go further, I reached saturation point after that. The introductory pages remain to be put on our wiki, it is in my todo list, but otherwise one can search in the search bar with one of the terms of the datasheets that one wants to create.
I think that in the end, when the documentation has been written and tested enough, all this can be put directly in the DFN files, to be seen. Thus, there are 700 DFN files waiting for you!
3.2 Update of clients from V2 to V3
Kervala:
"- The packaging for the Ubuntu Library has changed and it is impossible to use the old system (the admin page is read-only).
- The new packaging system for the Ubuntu repository is using Snapcraft and is still under development.
- This system is using a sandbox system, meaning that one cannot use the system theme, cannot write in the directory we want and all the files needed to launch the installer are included within a disk image. The whole weights 74 MB compressed and more than 400 MB decompressed ... for a 5 MB installer ...
- I sent a message to a developer at Canonical to ask if there is another way to update Ryzom, but I got no answer yet.
- I upgraded the ryzom-isv PPA with the latest versions of Ryzom Installer. The ones who are using Ubuntu or Debian (or any other Debian-based distribution) can use it because I compiled it under Debian Squeeze and everything is static.
- As long as Canonical's guys have not finalized their docs and as long as their system is so limited, it is not good to use it to package Ryzom; there are more disadvantages than advantages. So, as for me, I won't publish any Snapcraft package on the Ubuntu repository.
Q: I don't know if this is the right place, but I have a question related to the code/development part for the project.
We have already discussed the difficulty of gathering the doc in one place (too much work, not enough people), and I am considering a solution, but I need a web developer. It is simply to build a search bot that scans and indexes the various sites of the constellation, and collects everything on a search engine. Maybe it already exists, where there would only need to fill the sites to be indexed from, I don't know. In any case, I know it's doable.
I'm asking now because I know that there are many coders who are following the meeting, so some may know how to do it.
A Zerotacg: actually there are some predefined components to do that, feed elasticsearch from some indexer and make a simple page to make search queries and present the results for example. Not sure what the actual data you want to index is though
Zatalyz : Data is information on the technical wikis of Khaganat, Ryzom, Ryzom Core & Ryzom Forge.
Nilstilar: https://www.elastic.co/fr/
Zerotacg: Actually crawling the sites like google does might be a bit toi much but you kind of admin access and can export a dump of the data, can you?
Zatalyz: No, crawling is better. But we can speak about that in an other channel, I don't want to stop the meeting :)
3.3 Reversibility of subscriptions
Once implemented, this project will allow the unsubscribed accounts to play with "free to play" rights. There will therefore be two types of accounts: "Free to play" (ie non-subscribers and unsubscribed) and "Premiums" (ie subscribers).
It is important to note that the "free to play" accounts will have rights slightly different from their current rights, but that these will not be diminished. An announcement will be made to detail the changes made.
Final adjustments are in progress following feedback from the testers.