1 Reversibility of Ryzom subscriptions
The main reproach we have by Steam users is that Ryzom is not a real free to play because if we subscribe one account once, we must keep it subscribed to be able to play it.
That's why Winch Gate (WG) decided to make possible to go on playing with a subscribed account when it is unsubscribed, with some limitations.
It's too much difficult to block the stanzas to level 125 ones, so the accounts that will be unsubscribed will be accessible with the limits below:
- equipment limited to Q125;
- all storage places available (GH, appartment, packers, mount) but to take items only, not to add some (or the contrary, still to think about it), excepted on the mount;
- no double XP anymore.
All the limits will disappear as soon as the accounts will be subscribed again.
Q: Are these PROPOSALS or actually going to happen soon? This sounds excellent!
A: It will happen soon.
Q: I also take it that actions will be restricted (q250 action won't work on q125 toon).
Q:The equipment will be limited to q125 but not the 250 skills?
A: You're right, since lowering temporarily the skills to the 125 level would be too complex.
Log:
Shaliss, if you've got a 125 amp, you won't get the bonus for the 250 actions.
*Shaliss: Indeed, but for digging for example, even with a 125 equipment, you can get 250 mats (with some difficulties)
*Lyne: No Shaliss: you can't use a 250 pick. So no digging in 250 area (Or maybe I haven't well understood)
*Shaliss: Indeed you can use a 250 pick at level 1 :)
<badnet> you can use a q250 pick any time now even unsubscribed though... so this will change
*Siela: Tamarea: I thinkg that for magic and melee it will be ok, but it will cause troubles for digging and crafting
<Shaliss> oui d'ailleurs cette "liberté" c'est ce qui permet à de nombreux joueurs de forer avec des alts
*Lyne: Shaliss: if you're unsubbed, you cannot use a 250 pick anymore. Whatever your level
*Shaliss: Yes by the way this "freedom" is what allows lots of players to dig with alts
*Shaliss: Lyne, I believe that without being subscribed, you can currently use a q250 pick
*Siela: Since a char unsubscribed will be able to dig and craft 250
Siela: It's true, Shaliss
*Siela: Only nation pickas have level limitations
* Shaliss *agreed*
<Lyne summarizes> Globally, for digging, since the unsubscribed chars won't be able to equip a pick above q150, they won't be able to dig in areas higher than q150. And I was asking Tamarea if unsubscribed chars would be limited to 125 level when grinding (you can grind digging above 150 level even with q150 pick in q150 area... It's very long, but possible)
*Shaliss: At the same time, the idea is to convince player to not unsubscribe
<Lyne> *Tamarea: Lyne, I don't know yet. The big outiles I mentionned are undergoing coding, but there are still things to refine
<Lyne> *Siela: And... what about the stats?
<Lyne> *Tamarea: By the way, you comments will be forwarded to the Dev
<Lyne> *Siela: A 250 char will still have a lot more hp with 150 equipment than a 'normal' (meaning never-sub) char with 150
<Guildenstern> so all that would be capped too?
<nuts> well, i think it will be unwelcome
<nuts> cause unsubscribe account will not be able to do anything honnestly
<Lyne> They can subscribe back :-p
<Guildenstern> You think it would be worse than having to use a free to play? I don't think so, really.
<Lyne> And if they just want to enjoy the 13th birthday events, they can
<nuts> cause, yeah you will still be able to connect but they will have nothing to do in-game
<SIELA1915> it will be as good as f2p players
<nuts> other than camping stable :D
<SIELA1915> and f2p people CAN do stuff
<nuts> SIELA1915: yes, but we are talking about high level account not the one of a new player
<Lyne> *Tamarea: I'll forward your comments to the Dev
<Lyne> *Deed: You don't touch the stable :p
<SIELA1915> (yes nuts, but otherwise everybody that has lvled all he wants would unsubscribe
The main reproach we have by Steam users is that Ryzom is not a real free to play because if we subscribe one account once, we must keep it subscribed to be able to play it.
That's why Winch Gate (WG) decided to make possible to go on playing with a subscribed account when it is unsubscribed, with some limitations.
It's too much difficult to block the stanzas to level 125 ones, so the accounts that will be unsubscribed will be accessible with the limits below:
- equipment limited to Q125;
- all storage places available (GH, appartment, packers, mount) but to take items only, not to add some (or the contrary, still to think about it), excepted on the mount;
- no double XP anymore.
All the limits will disappear as soon as the accounts will be subscribed again.
Q: Are these PROPOSALS or actually going to happen soon? This sounds excellent!
A: It will happen soon.
Q: I also take it that actions will be restricted (q250 action won't work on q125 toon).
Q:The equipment will be limited to q125 but not the 250 skills?
A: You're right, since lowering temporarily the skills to the 125 level would be too complex.
Log:
Shaliss, if you've got a 125 amp, you won't get the bonus for the 250 actions.
*Shaliss: Indeed, but for digging for example, even with a 125 equipment, you can get 250 mats (with some difficulties)
*Lyne: No Shaliss: you can't use a 250 pick. So no digging in 250 area (Or maybe I haven't well understood)
*Shaliss: Indeed you can use a 250 pick at level 1 :)
<badnet> you can use a q250 pick any time now even unsubscribed though... so this will change
*Siela: Tamarea: I thinkg that for magic and melee it will be ok, but it will cause troubles for digging and crafting
<Shaliss> oui d'ailleurs cette "liberté" c'est ce qui permet à de nombreux joueurs de forer avec des alts
*Lyne: Shaliss: if you're unsubbed, you cannot use a 250 pick anymore. Whatever your level
*Shaliss: Yes by the way this "freedom" is what allows lots of players to dig with alts
*Shaliss: Lyne, I believe that without being subscribed, you can currently use a q250 pick
*Siela: Since a char unsubscribed will be able to dig and craft 250
Siela: It's true, Shaliss
*Siela: Only nation pickas have level limitations
* Shaliss *agreed*
<Lyne summarizes> Globally, for digging, since the unsubscribed chars won't be able to equip a pick above q150, they won't be able to dig in areas higher than q150. And I was asking Tamarea if unsubscribed chars would be limited to 125 level when grinding (you can grind digging above 150 level even with q150 pick in q150 area... It's very long, but possible)
*Shaliss: At the same time, the idea is to convince player to not unsubscribe
<Lyne> *Tamarea: Lyne, I don't know yet. The big outiles I mentionned are undergoing coding, but there are still things to refine
<Lyne> *Siela: And... what about the stats?
<Lyne> *Tamarea: By the way, you comments will be forwarded to the Dev
<Lyne> *Siela: A 250 char will still have a lot more hp with 150 equipment than a 'normal' (meaning never-sub) char with 150
<Guildenstern> so all that would be capped too?
<nuts> well, i think it will be unwelcome
<nuts> cause unsubscribe account will not be able to do anything honnestly
<Lyne> They can subscribe back :-p
<Guildenstern> You think it would be worse than having to use a free to play? I don't think so, really.
<Lyne> And if they just want to enjoy the 13th birthday events, they can
<nuts> cause, yeah you will still be able to connect but they will have nothing to do in-game
<SIELA1915> it will be as good as f2p players
<nuts> other than camping stable :D
<SIELA1915> and f2p people CAN do stuff
<nuts> SIELA1915: yes, but we are talking about high level account not the one of a new player
<Lyne> *Tamarea: I'll forward your comments to the Dev
<Lyne> *Deed: You don't touch the stable :p
<SIELA1915> (yes nuts, but otherwise everybody that has lvled all he wants would unsubscribe