Fyranna --
As an Arispotle roleplayer of the same sort that Daomei is a Leanon role-player (i.e. that most of my roleplaying has had to do with events, not meetings, and that I am proud of my contributions to them) I must say that I have found your posts to be more intemperate than they really have any need to be. Bittty may not like the Matis as a whole but he has accepted that they have not recently given any cause for him to worry about them. (Bittty still thinks Sterga Hamla is a (rhymes with crass), but that's Sterga.)
OOC, and somewhat to the point of this thread:
If you check back to the post where you were "being accused of distorting Leanon's history", I have to say that I read it in an entirely different fashion.
I see both Salazar and Daomei simply pointing out that your statements about the Matis burning Thesos are as much a distortion of Leanon history as their account of radicals Fyros (or apparently Aniro's account of fanatical Matis mentioned in another area) are a distortion of Arispotle's history.
The discussion here is not about which one is "right", but how we can make them all merge so that we can continue to play together. You and I remember the death of the Sharukos to a mysterious disease followed by the Matis invasion (including the abominable *Yubo bombs*). Daomei remembers helping heal the Sharukos. I'm sure Fey-Lin remembers something else entirely.
In ALL histories the old Sharukos is now dead. He was buried at Cerakos Gate in a very moving ceremony that somehow managed to gloss over the differences in the memories of those present. (No complete account seems to have been published but a reference is here.) Some people remember him dying of disease, some remember him dying on the trek to the Kami Oasis in the last days of the Great Swarming. As Hawkeye says to the Black Widow in The Avengers, "You and I remember Budapest very differently. "
And that difference in memory is probably where we are going to end up when all the sturm und drang dies down. It is not going to be possible to "merge the histories", but it may be necessary to agree that we have "different memories of Budapest." That those memories shape us in roleplay terms is inevitable. I don't see that changing. We will have to learn to respect those differences rather than fighting about them. Yrkanis is dead, Stil Wyler is dead, Dexton is dead. Only Mabreka Cho still lives and even there our memories differ.
Look to the future... the past is dead. We need to look to it to learn, but let us temper that learning from the past with *observing* the present. (I say this not only from the OOC point of view but from the roleplaying point of view as well.)
-- With respect,
Bittty
As an Arispotle roleplayer of the same sort that Daomei is a Leanon role-player (i.e. that most of my roleplaying has had to do with events, not meetings, and that I am proud of my contributions to them) I must say that I have found your posts to be more intemperate than they really have any need to be. Bittty may not like the Matis as a whole but he has accepted that they have not recently given any cause for him to worry about them. (Bittty still thinks Sterga Hamla is a (rhymes with crass), but that's Sterga.)
OOC, and somewhat to the point of this thread:
If you check back to the post where you were "being accused of distorting Leanon's history", I have to say that I read it in an entirely different fashion.
Daomei
SalazarOOC: Well, here we have the complicated situation of the three servers having a different history. I'm sorry I had to address that as I did above, but then Leanon's past has the Matis invading nothing at all, but a firehead Fyros then supposed to poisoning his father and trying to provoke a war. ;)
Yes, indeed we have this complicated situation, and we all should be reluctant to use controversial parts of that conflicting history against homins from different traditions. Fyranna should indeed consider that. Distorting Leanon history is not helpful anyway.
I see both Salazar and Daomei simply pointing out that your statements about the Matis burning Thesos are as much a distortion of Leanon history as their account of radicals Fyros (or apparently Aniro's account of fanatical Matis mentioned in another area) are a distortion of Arispotle's history.
The discussion here is not about which one is "right", but how we can make them all merge so that we can continue to play together. You and I remember the death of the Sharukos to a mysterious disease followed by the Matis invasion (including the abominable *Yubo bombs*). Daomei remembers helping heal the Sharukos. I'm sure Fey-Lin remembers something else entirely.
In ALL histories the old Sharukos is now dead. He was buried at Cerakos Gate in a very moving ceremony that somehow managed to gloss over the differences in the memories of those present. (No complete account seems to have been published but a reference is here.) Some people remember him dying of disease, some remember him dying on the trek to the Kami Oasis in the last days of the Great Swarming. As Hawkeye says to the Black Widow in The Avengers, "You and I remember Budapest very differently. "
And that difference in memory is probably where we are going to end up when all the sturm und drang dies down. It is not going to be possible to "merge the histories", but it may be necessary to agree that we have "different memories of Budapest." That those memories shape us in roleplay terms is inevitable. I don't see that changing. We will have to learn to respect those differences rather than fighting about them. Yrkanis is dead, Stil Wyler is dead, Dexton is dead. Only Mabreka Cho still lives and even there our memories differ.
Look to the future... the past is dead. We need to look to it to learn, but let us temper that learning from the past with *observing* the present. (I say this not only from the OOC point of view but from the roleplaying point of view as well.)
-- With respect,
Bittty
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