IDEAS FOR RYZOM

I did not contradict. It means that 8 other players waived their share. And as to Pei-Ruz being so easy, how often did you take on him lately? And why is the server not flooded with Pei armor recently if it is so easy while Dante is so overbooked that some players are not ashamed to rush in and steal the click when a full team is just about to enter?

We agree that cheating is not allowed, that was not the point. On the other hand, it is not cheating to readjust the chances by adding some handicap when one sees that one side is systematically superior. Uneven chances make competition boring for the victor and frustrating for the defeated. And having PvP points in mind when arranging fights is not cheating either, they are here to encourage consensual PvP.

Yes, sometimes, not always. I watched lots of PvP fights which were no more than common brawl or ganking, stupid and predictable. I took part in OP fights which were incredibly boring due to overwhelming superiority of one side. And the race for uber gear also is predictable and not particularly interesting. When I as a neutral have to cross the more interesting regions of the rootball I encounter more challenge than that from mobs and environment. No doubt that PvP can be interesting and challenging, yet the constant call for more reward and incentive does not impressively demonstrate its attractivity. (Edit: get me right, I do not say that PvP cannot be fun, challenging, and interesting, I much appreciate and respect your enthusiasm under that respect. But PvE is more than just killing mobs, please respect that, too, and the ecology of interacting AI in ryzom is no less complex than what players can arrange among themselves).

I don't see that the one or the other follows from Bittty's quote. His point was that any homin in Atys no less than people in societies based on division of labor depends on the contribution of others thus a warrior should be no more autarkic than any other. (As an aside: In human history there was one major war based on armies waiving logistics and living off the country by looting, the 30years war 1618-48, it left the theatre of operations with roughly half the prewar populace and wide desert like areas).

The world of Atys is based on production (be it by foraging, hunting or crafting), services (among them armed protection), and exchange. I do not see that any category of players should be exempt. Faction points are fine as an incentive and a means of identifying with the own faction, would they lead to self-sufficiency outside that system it would break the game.