NH vs. Touring the Camps: further Disadvantages for Neutrals - English

Bitttymacod (atys)

As for increasing "nationalistic" gameplay, I don't like PvP. I feel that the response (at least in Arispotle) to the Marauder incursion, where homins of all civilizations banded together to attack the marauders, was a proper one. I know that when the Second Great Swarming happened, homins of all nations and of all creeds stood together. Even the Marauders stood with hominity on *that* day.

We need governance of the areas. We do not need nations.

I won't comment at the thread as such - as a poor Karavan-Matis not digging at all - but I have to comment on what Bitty said here. Because I have to disagree.

Atys needs nations, and religions. Atys can't exist with just neutrals (which seem to make out the mass nevertheless). That's not a question of just PvP (which isn't my cup of tea either), but of the potential for all sort of conflict, of a potential which makes politics useful, which fires RP outside of yitter-yatter or recreation of a homely family life. Roleplay, thankfully, is bigger than that and has more needs, national and international, so to say. And fundamentally only nation and religion helps to make a non-visual difference in the races, in they way they are played, and in any effort to make them believable.