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New Title - Atys Emissary
Yes - as written
Atys: Haokan, Lapetus, Soyeok, Zatalyz, Zatarga
5 (3)
20.0%
No - not worth the effort 0
Yes - as wriiten with adding Gidget idea
Atys: Alassea, Chantrea, Clu, Craftjenn, Dudu, Fenomeno, Gidget, Haokan, Khandoma, Lapetus, Mingting, Moyaku, Sinvaders, Soyeok, Zatalyz, Zatarga
16 (5)
64.0%
Other
Atys: Bazett, Dudu, Khandoma, Vanixia
4
16.0%
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#1 [en] 

My purpose for this topic is to discuss the possibility of a new title for Atys Fame. As is known, every individual has the ability to change the way tribes interact with their toon – some are race defined where they automatically love or hate you based upon your civilization allegiance, some are affected by cult allegiance and others are affected by your organization affiliate. Now, tribal fame really does not matter if you are Kami/Kara/Marauder or Ranger, all have the ability to achieve “Maximum Positive Fame” with one or all 52 tribes on Atys – which is not impossible but extremely time consuming and at times, requires a delicate balancing act so not to affect your other standing (civilization/cult) of your particular path. There is also an additional balancing act for Fame that is achievable (with a sacrifice of course) where a toon can obtain max positive fame with all 52 tribes (where he/she has full protection) – be allowed full protection from the 4 Civilizations (have the ability to trade as well) – be able to purchase all “neutral teleporters” from both Kami and Kara (Nexus included) – and finally; be allowed to enter the Marauder Basecamp with full protection (just not the ability to trade). The sacrifice or trade-off is you lose all TP’s for Q250 zones and for Prime Roots (benefit of being aligned).

I find it a little odd that a toon can obtain a fame title of “Atys Citizen” when you are excluding both Tribal Fame and Marauder protection/accessibility within their basecamp. The game mechanics allow for what I just describe above to be achievable (I am not saying that it is easy though) and I propose a new fame title and the prerequisite for obtaining and maintaining (this is similar to a Zora Awakened where you need to be 100/100 Zora/Kami and be granted this title – if you slip in either, you lose the title).

New Title: Atys Emissary

Prerequisite: Neutral/Neutral/Undefined

1. All 52 Tribes must have “maximum positive fame” achieved – then maintained within a 2-point margin – example: if your Arid Matis maximum is 50, then once achieved the lowest can only be 48 (simply impossible to maintain all max based upon game mechanics) – this would apply for every tribe based upon their maximum fame level (some are 30, some are 50 and some are 80 – for this particular path that I am mentioning; I understand that aligned toons will be able to achieve 100 for certain/specific tribes but not relevant for this topic).

2. All 4 Civilizations must be “neutral” and all 4 must have a fame level of minus 30 (no less, no more) – minus 30 allows for entry into the city, protection, and tradability. This balance is required for #3 (Marauder part) to work – the protection is tied in with what tribes are aligned with what civilization and what your fame is with those tribes. (You can still enter a city beyond minus 30 but no protection nor tradability would be afforded based upon your tribe-associated fame).

3. All 3 Cults must be “neutral” allegiance with Kami and Karavan at minus 30 and Marauder at plus 30 (no less, no more/again perfect balance is required) – minus 30 allows for the purchase of all neutral teleporters (including Nexus) but excludes from any Q250 zone and Prime Roots – plus 30 for Marauder allows for full protection entry into the Basecamp (no tradability) but this access is predicated upon your Marauder aligned tribes to be at maximum positive fame. Also, your organization needs to be undefined just as when you created your toon on Silan – this is not negotiable (actually, this is the most important part of this entire journey). Any defined organization will not work for this journey.

I understand that this may not be very popular (for one reason or another), that when an individual starts a journey, he/she either read about the Root ball, have friends who played a particular way/style, wanted to follow a particular idea (I did. I was one of only a hand-full of Zora Awakened on the previous server, and for about 1yr after the merger) – but then the roleplay idea leaves and you just want to hang-out with toons with no issues that would or could be brought about by choosing sides during an OP war, or who to hunt or dig with, and even being a Ranger seemed to have issues of not being truly “neutral”.

So, I will end this the same way that I started it, I believe that a new fame title should be given to toons who truly want to represent Atys to the fullest. I understand that there is no true “representative interaction” between toons with regards to tribes, war, and cult beliefs but since the game mechanics allow it, then maybe we should recognize those toons for the efforts of representation because even though they may not represent your idea of “gameplay”, they are representing the whole of Atys.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Zatarga (1 month ago)

#2 [en] 

Interesting. Seems like a lot of work to achieve and we already have a lot of skills to learn but as a Kami Disciple, I can appreciate the outlook. I will probably never change being Kami but I agree that a new or special title show be given if someone is able to accomplish this task though I doubt that it is possible. I am a relatively new player but this does sound interesting to me.

#3 [en] 

I approve of this idea... with one slight change. I feel that anyone who can pull this off deserves the ability to trade with Marauders. After all, Marauders are Atysians too. OOC, the balancing required deserves greater reward. IG/RP, what sort of emmisary is on too-poor-to-trade terms with any faction?

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#4 [en] 

@ Gidget - great idea...I was just thinking/talking about what is possible or allowable within the current game mechanics, but going one step further for Marauder tradability is a great idea.

#5 [en] 

Since I spend more time reading forums and chatting than I do playing, if someone is able to do everything that is written, then they deserve the title plus what Gidget has added. I talk a lot and train little and the few toons that I have asked questions about this say that it is time-consuming and hard for experienced toons to give up easy access to those regions. Good luck.

#6 [en] 

I like this idea. I have been spending time doing fame since I am SoA now. But with no real benifit to having max fame with every tribe (besides safety) it doesn't really seem worth it.

I like Gidget's idea too. I think that would be really helpful. I can see though why some may have a problem with it. I agree the trade for maras is very difficult and it needs to be improved. But the way tribes are set up fame wise wouldn't work with mara trade because of the civs. That would need to be changed.

#7 [en] 

@Alassea - there actually are Marauder tribe now :P --- so this still applies,,,and congrats on tribal fame improvement.

#8 [en] 

Wonderful idea for nice title. Make this is a great challenge : it need reward with a title !

#9 [en] 

Zatarga
@Alassea - there actually are Marauder tribe now :P --- so this still applies,,,and congrats on tribal fame improvement.

This is true, but to trade with most tribes you also have to have good trading fame. For the majority of maras, all of their fames are below -50 so trading would be impossible. I assume that even for the new mara tribes (that I have max fame with) it would be difficult to impliment most trading. That is, if we are talking about like hawkers and such.

#10 [fr] 

Bonjour;
L"idée est bonne.A affiner peut etre.

En fonction de la renommée envers une tribu,on devrait etre aussi attaquable pas seulement dans le camp lui-meme.Mais aussi par les patrouilles de ces tribus,qui se deplacent sur Atys.
Cela va dans le meme sens et en complement de la fame tribu.Enfin c'est mon avis.
Cordialement.

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Imotep.
Chef De Clan " Les Prophètes De La Lumière "

#11 [en] 

@Alassea - this path only works with Neutral/Neutral/Undefined no aligned toon could walk this path :) --- you rock, thanks, and great to see you again.

#12 [en] 

@Imotep - not a bad idea --- I never thought or considered roaming tribes but that would be a great addon - and an advantage for the Emissary

#13 [en] 

I like Imotep's idea of Roaming Tribes attacking Homins that has negative fame, like when they roam around, and see a familiar face.. "isn't that the wanted person in our tribe?" *Attack!*

EDIT: Marauder Tribes should be wearing an assortment of Marauder gears, it doesn't need to be a full set, like the new tribe in Resting Waters, The gears somehow trickled down to their tribe, but they still don't wear full mara sets like the ones in camp, because it's not as abundant, if that makes sense.

Last edited by Dullahan (1 month ago)

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#14 [en] 

I like that idea a lot. I always found it strange that the roaming group associated with nearby tribes were never hostile towards you if the tribe themselves would kill you on sight. I believe that this would make the game far more interesting then…also, I believe that the roaming troops should also protect you just as the tribes would if your fame allows for it.

Last edited by Zatarga (1 month ago)

#15 [en] 

Alassea
This is true, but to trade with most tribes you also have to have good trading fame. For the majority of maras, all of their fames are below -50 so trading would be impossible. I assume that even for the new mara tribes (that I have max fame with) it would be difficult to impliment most trading. That is, if we are talking about like hawkers and such.

I won't go into too much detail, but suffice it to say that Rangers can suffer the same problem. 
Zatarga
I like that idea a lot. I always found it strange that the roaming group associated with nearby tribes were never hostile towards you if the tribe themselves would kill you on sight. I believe that this would make the game far more interesting then…also, I believe that the roaming troops should also protect you just as the tribes would if your fame allows for it.

It would certainly make my life interesting!

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