General - Ryzom Community Forum https://app.ryzom.com//app_forum/ Mon, 20 May 2019 04:26:03 +0000 ryApp::FeedBuilder 15 General - Ryzom Community Forum https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum//images/rz_ryzom_logo-144x47.png https://app.ryzom.com//app_forum/ <![CDATA[Ryzom Forge Public Meetings agendas & reports]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/28116/81#195073 Tue, 14 May 2019 11:32:38 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/195073 Ryzom Forge meeting report - May 13th, 2019

Improvement of our Wiki documentation

Tamarea 21:57
This is something we need to improve significantly... Both in terms of documentation for Ryzom Forge and for players. Open question about RF documentation: how to add Khaganat documentation in our wikis? (Khaganat and Ryzom Forge are partners, but have different wikis.) We already uploaded a part of it, but it's a lot outdated and the links are dead. I let you think about the RF technical documentation, we'll talk again about it on the forum, on RC or during the next meeting. The second kind of documentation is the one for players: how to have them updated on the wiki with all gameplay changes and new content? Any proposal?

Q: Did you mean Khaganat's documentation is outdated, Tamarea? Or is it ours?
A: Our wikis are not compatible, so even if we import them, we don't have their updates. And as their tree structure has changed, our links are dead. And that's a pity, given the richness of their technical documentation

Craftjenn 22:13
I cleaned old stuffs these last years… But I need help (knowledge), as I don't know Atys enough. The dedicated channel will help to correct errors or outdated data.
Faeloe 22:16
Maybe we could organize meetings closed or open to players with only some pages of contribution per session. I think we know enough people to organize ourselves moments to do it.

Tamarea 22:16
There are also wiki pages in other languages. And here we are short of contributors. Those who want to help with Ryzom wikis (and think about the issues) can join the public channel dedicated to the Wiki, which I will create as soon as the meeting is over. Now I let the wiki contributors speak, who will tell you about their publications, or what they want in relation to the wiki. :) Craftjenn has the floor!
Craftjenn 22:30
A pity Zorroargh is not here… I don't have many feed back from readers / users. It's hard to know what is missing, too. As a Ranger, we help lot of youngs, and I was quite fed up to give the same old advices over and over again. I starded contributions because of that… just a note pad, to copy and paste. Then I noticed that the main contributor was of my own Guild. As you (maybe) know, there are six wikis: one for images and five wiki, very differents for each language (mains are EN FR DE), written by different people. Same issue with the forum: as Atys has a very long history, many posts are outdated (especially technical details and spoilers). A part of contributions are free (see the work of Lou Tei-Sang, or some writings as Eleanide's ones), an other part is LORE validated.

Q: Do you have any recent publications to show us?
A: Easy: on main page, a link show all recents changes. On the EN wiki (Navigation/Recent changes)

Dorothee 22:46
Jenn and me are working on pages Arionasis, Teeneemai, Tyneetryk's Tears…
Heernis 22:46
My POV I used wiki not often at the beginning. Everything was French and English translation, many articles were bad and german ones didnt exist.
Craftjenn 22:47
I think a begining would be focus on FR and EN. I was as Heernis, reading english stuffs. I thought: I am not the best translator, but I can take some notes (summarize), try to translate, it could help an other French reader
Moniq & Tamarea 22:49
It would be great to get members of all teams involved on the wiki channel. Contributors, translators, proofreaders, lorists, sys-admin, …
Craftjenn 22:51
Here is an other example (EN and FR) of https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Wheel_of_fortune
Heernis 22:52
At the moment it seems I am alone at writing content for the German part of the wiki. Would be good to involve other german writers. And even if french people use DeepL to translate then put articles in German wiki, it is much better that nothing.
Tamarea 22:53
Good idea to use DeepL for German translations. Otherwise the Germans will have an entire wiki to translate…

Tamarea 22:53
Do other contributors wish to speak?
Eleanide 22:56
At the moment I am updating article about the Wheel, an article whose original was in FR. I don't reveal there all that can be won at the Wheel. To keep suspense. But I try to explain all is worth to know about the Wheel. Here is an example of an article to update :)

Tamarea 23:03
Do other contributors wish to speak?
Nilstilar 23:03
My last contribution: https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Avant-propos. A fine story, written in French by a fellow player, that I'll translate to EN someday. I also contributed to User's Manual, Silan's Missions and Botanical articles.

Q: Another thing about the wiki: It would be great, since there are filters, that articles needing to be proofreading or updating or watewer should be listed somewhere automatically. If there is a list like that please let me know. None of the "Special pages" (bottom of all sites) was like I thought.

Tamarea 23:12
It's time to move on to the next topic, the clock is ticking! Think about joining #ryzom-wiki on RC if you want to help in any way with our wikis!

Ceremony for Arionasis (may 10th)

Tamarea 23:17
I hope that most of those who so wished were able to attend this tribute ceremony. For the record, we just removed the Arionasis banner from the game, which was laying on the ground near Chiang. But Ari, his yubo zig, will remain permanently present (you can pet him). It was very emotional to see everyone present on Silan and to listen to everyone's words… We will publish the report of the ceremony, with pictures, on the forum. But I've seen that contributors have already created articles on the wiki: well done! For info, we have since one year the project of a permanent memorial for all players who passed away (waiting project). Any comment before to move to next topic?
Craftjenn 23:21
On the French wiki, there's a dedicated category for that. I will build the structure for that.

Next patch (JY 2603)

Tamarea 23:27
It is scheduled for May 18th (after midnight CEST). For US, on May 17th after 22:00 UTC.

DeepL ingame translation

Tamarea 23:29
Topic added to the agenda. Internally RRT and RF use a lot of DeepL automatic translator: https://www.deepl.com/translator We use it easily in events, by copy/paste, and I am doing the same right now for this meeting. DeepL translates much better than Google Translation, and this is particularly visible between German and French. We are testing the DeepL app on the test server, in order to use it as an automatic translator on all channels of the game. If it is successful (and it is on the way), we will install it on Atys. Then, there will be an option to enable/disable machine translations. This should greatly help to overcome the language barrier. And also to make events and meetings more comfortable!
Moniq 23:38
I must note that the number of supported languages is limited however.
Tamarea 23:41
DeepL supports more and more languages. In the beginning, there were four, compared to nine now, including the five languages of the game.
Heernis 23:42
German, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Dutch, Polish and Russian are supported.

Q: With this thing enabled, one will see everything in chats translated? Or will it only translate what one wants to say to chat?
A: I suggest you wait until we have it, before asking how it will work. We first test the translation as a whole. Then we will work on the "optional translation" part. The feedback from the testers will then be crucial to "model" this option. So I don't have an answer to that question yet. And of course, we will then improve the "optional translation" according to your own feedback, once DeepL is implemented on Atys. Who wants to know more should ask to go in test team.

Recruitment

Tamarea 23:44
We recruit volunteers in almost all our teams: Ark, Comm-Marketing, Dev, Event, Game-Design, Level-Design, Support, Test, Translation. If you have any questions or are interested in any of these teams, please contact Tamarea on RC or by e-mail at tamarea@ryzom.com. To apply directly: tamarea@ryzom.com
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Moniq
<![CDATA[Ranger TP: Exploitation of Game Mechanics]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/29425/36#194926 Wed, 08 May 2019 00:32:35 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/194926
As anyone who knows me would expect, I don't like the words "not allowed". Too my view, anyone who pays the same subscription price should be entitled to do anything they with **equal opportunity** across the board. With as little playing time as I can manage, guild and other IG responsibilities, I am surprised that anyone has the time to figure out and test "exploits".

While I am all for fifguring out, the mot efficient way to accomplish something, I don't like making things easier, There's no "winning ryzom". I like the idea of "cats" pre-merge, only because with 5 harvest trees and 39 craft trees ... you spend 87% of ya digging time for no XP. I saved my cats allocation for crafting. Post merge, I personally wish there was a way to "turn them off'. Or that you could pick one skill tree to apply them to ... and hen ya wanted to change ... a 30 day cool down.

There's prolly no person in the game that knows less about tagging than I do, but if someone really wanted to use an exploit in this situation, wouldn't it simply be easier stay untagged ?


The one thing great about "classes" in Ryzon is that no one in game has class ... :) ... well class restrictions. There are some minor ones such as TP locations (Kara Void / Kami SC) so I 100% support the notion that it be fixed at some point. However, I hope that problems like this which I would categorize as "growing pains" need to arise to the top of the heap and require all progress on everything else to cease.

When the boss lock thing was first brought to game, the 1st 2 bosses I was fighting against had incidents .... 1) after separating the boss from minions and struggling a bit with a small team, but slowly winning, had folks come in and start dragging minions on us.... 2) On the next one (same day, another small group .... some folks came along and huddled in our mage pod .... I reported both.

And tho I think the 2nd situation was addressed by a patch, I dunno how long it took ... I haven't run into the 1st one more than once or twice since.

In short, when making changes... certain situations simply may not be envisioned. If you would have told me rangers would be PvPing, I never woulda thot it would happen. I really don't see 'Ranger types' going this route ... tho I can see how folks that would use an exploit would "go ranger" in order to take advantage of it.

I reported the two instances I spoke of, but wasn't interested enough to follow progress. You did exactly what I would have done by reporting it. and I hope until it's fixed, now that it's accepted as an exploit, folks will be more reluctant to undertake it as a matter of personal pride, until it is addressed.]]>
Fyrosfreddy
<![CDATA[Ballance of Ranger gameplay]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/28871/24#190152 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:59:14 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/190152
Otherwise, I find it a pain to TP to Zora, then run out of town to 'get to the spot,' then 'TP / use the path,' 2-3 times to get back to Wastelands near where I was when I died, BUT.... It is the path I chose! (pun intended) :D

So, I can accept the way things are now, and live without any changes although it be very difficult.]]>
Naema
<![CDATA[Ryzom Forge meeting report- 2017-11-20]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/27902/2#185029 Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:08:44 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/185029 Management of Players ideas

I have a project fo better manage the "ideas fo the players": each player would have xx "vote points" to use by using them in his favourite players ideas. With the possibility to change his mind and so to take back points from an idea to give them to another one. When he'll have no free vote point left, he could not vote anymore. When an idea would be added ingame (and archived, tagged or anything else useful), the player would have back the points he gave to this idea.

Ex: 10 vote points for each player account. The player could share them between his favourite ideas (giving 10 points to one project, or 4 points to one, 1 to another one, etc. As he would want. Free system.
No free point left but a nice new idea: would have to choose. Renouncing to this new idea, or giving less points to another one. ^^
A project added ingame = he gets the given points back and can use them for other projects.

Of course, we should keep the current forum "Player Ideas" in archives and reopen a new one, for more clarity.

Comments:

Lyne: It's a number of points per account or per char? How many points do the F2P accounts have?

Tamarea: This remains to decide. Still in thinking. What do you think ?

Moniq: My first idea was exploit by more characters/accounts so do you suggest any way how to limit it?

Eleanide : That's a good idea if the vote is actually bind to the account. It will allow to see proposals and their popularity.

Moniq: Generally, I like the idea but I think this is the feature for p2p. Depends on how valuable 1 point will be. If 10 is significant, none for f2p, if 1000 points is not much, f2p can have 1 point to "test" the feature. We can also limit it by played time? how exclusive it supposed to be? Give points for played time, for example 1 point per Atys season, starting after 1st 2 days/weeks in game and/or getting level 35 + leaving Silan…

Tamarea: Seems too much difficult for a forum feature.

Lyne: I don't like the idea of the played time (I'm a bit too tired to explain it, but I could another day if you want).

Moniq @lyne: just suggestions how to limit exploiting with multimple accounts.

Tamarea: Would be possible to limit to Premium accounts, but what would we do with the points given by a player coming back to F2P?

Lyne: Don't change anything if the player goes back to F2P (keep his points where they were given but prevent him to change his vote).

Moniq @tamarea: can use points only when p2p, in time when unsubscribed it will be disallowed.

Eleanide: Only for P2P, then? Is that possible?

Tamarea: I think so, even if confirmation is needed.

Eleanide: Return to F2P = No more point for voting.]]>
Tamarea
<![CDATA[forge updates live on server]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/27514/3#183429 Wed, 20 Sep 2017 02:33:39 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/183429 Naema <![CDATA[Ryzom Forge on Bitbucket]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/24884/4#182281 Thu, 27 Jul 2017 10:15:42 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/182281 https://bitbucket.org/ryzomforge/assets (see "Source" and "Commits" folders).
I've just updated the links in post 1.]]>
Tamarea
<![CDATA[Public release with debug?]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/26642/7#178260 Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:06:20 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/178260
The normal debug messages do get logged for a bit but yes those stop. It is just the lines that I pasted that repeat over and over. I only saw log.log once and didn't pay any attention to it as it doesn't get huge and it didn't dawn on me to look it over closely.

If it happens again and that file pops up I'll look that over too.

I have not figured out where/how to compile the current code as every one of my old links I used years ago is either lacking info or dead links. Otherwise I'd help troubleshoot this.

For some odd reason, any edits I do the the cfg files prompts a patch over write. Aside from wiping out the cfg file leaving only that one line suggested earlier. All other changes get reverted.]]>
Herrah
<![CDATA[Bilan des 2 ans de collaboration Ryzom/Khaganat]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/26129/6#175423 Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:17:00 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/175423 Naema <![CDATA[autoupdateable guildmotd]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/26101/1#175111 Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:32:34 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/175111 Tyrralir <![CDATA[Collaborative Project: Ryzom Forge]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/21361/8#172978 Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:04:53 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/172978
Holidays are quite over so Ryzom Forge meetings have restarted yesterday.]]>
Tamarea
<![CDATA[New region]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/20224/74#170388 Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:55:55 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/170388
The same mechanic could be applied to Rangers as members of the "faction" responsible for the defense of Atys against the Kitin threat, they would benefit in a manner similar as do citizens of a race.]]>
Fyrosfreddy
<![CDATA[Kit du développeur]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/25146/2#170366 Tue, 31 May 2016 18:51:43 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/170366 https://ryzomcore.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RC/Ryzom+Core+Home
sur irc freenode : #ryzom ou #ryzomforge

en français mais en cours de redaction et a jour :
https://khaganat.net/wikhan/fr:start
sur irc freenode : #khanat

mais sur mac , pour les outils il y a pas grand choses qui marche mais si tu t'y connais en c++ , tu peux les porter :))]]>
Deed
<![CDATA[Ryzom studio]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/23185/1#158073 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 07:07:26 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/158073
J'ai windows 8.1 et suivi le tuto de ryzomcore.
(je pense installer debian bientot si sa peut aider)

Quand je compile, je n'ai pas le "with-studio" dans le cmake

Après je ne sais pas ou est mon erreur, je ne sais pas si j'ai mis dans les bon dossiers tous les copi/collé

Esque quelqu' un peut m'aider ici, irc ou sur atys ?]]>
Deed
<![CDATA[Ryzom Forge's meetings]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/21807/26#157239 Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:44:21 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/157239
just my 2 dappers on the idea :)

talkIRC]]>
Talkirc
<![CDATA[Transférer les articles de Khaganat sur Ryzom Forge ?]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22967/7#156993 Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:57:49 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/156993
On the other hand, I cann't transfer picture. Keep in mind, that images has to be in the "common" of the wiki, and that one need make the uploading from a local directory.]]>
Zorroargh
<![CDATA[Interface reload command]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22469/1#152907 Sat, 14 Mar 2015 09:30:04 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/152907
That's a little request to the dev's :)]]>
Syphox
<![CDATA[can't get ryzom forge wiki access]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22457/8#152823 Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:12:40 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/152823 Talkirc <![CDATA[Mélanger l'origine des mp pour des plans de tribu ?]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22356/2#152065 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:17:13 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/152065 Zendae <![CDATA[NewZone]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22205/15#150980 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:26:06 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/150980
wir können Die ganzen Gedanken aus Virg´s Tread und die von wiedii zusammenlegen und daraus ein vollkommen neues Konzept begründen.
schließlich gibt es genügend Inhalte die dort zusammen getragen wurden ^^

wird es unsere Aufgabe sein, daraus ein vollkommen neues und eigenes Konzept zu erstellen . aus alle dem was zusammen getragen wurde.
jedoch immer im Auge sollten wir behalten das es ins Universum von Ryzom passen muss ;)

ich freu mich schon auf das Meeting für diese Forge-Gruppe ^^]]>
Remigra
<![CDATA[New zone landscape modeling]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22149/7#150307 Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:02:32 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/150307 Gersen <![CDATA[Log Ryzomforge]]> https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/21822/6#149272 Thu, 01 Jan 2015 15:29:43 +0000 General https://app.ryzom.com:443/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/149272 Laofa (atys)
Pour les op qui ont les droits suffisants, la commande à entrer est la suivante :
/msg chanserv set [#channel] entrymsg [message] 


En remplaçant [#channel] par le nom du canal et [message] par le message, par exemple :
/msg chanserv set #ryzomforge entrymsg Ilogyou log you ! http://khaganat.net/irc/logryzom.php


Ce message là s'affichera à la connexion, sans ajouter des infos à un titre souvent surchargé. Le titre est plus adapté aux "infos du jour", vu qu'il est plus simple à modifier et visible tout le temps dans la plupart des clients.

Message ajouté, merci pour le conseil (et la commande) !]]>
Tamarea