DISCUSSIONS AROUND ONGOING PROJECTS

This topic is dedicated to informations, questions and feedback about boss refactoring.

Explication du projet : https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/sHtn43WJiwtxrBN

Bosses refactoring - Ryzom Forge meeting report (2020-08-31)

Q : Will there be new Bosses?
R : Yes, but they will be new variations of Kings by region rather. If a given species exists in a region, that region is likely to host a Boss specimen of that species.

Q : Will the list of Bosses in the wiki () be updated?
R : Yes, most likely, by the volunteer players who contribute to the wiki.

Q : What about Bosses currently popping on one one spot only, such as Bodokin, Cratchakin, etc.?
R : The particular program that manages them today will not be changed: they will continue to appear, at the same location.

Q : Will there be a frippo Boss?
R : Logically, a frippo King 120 should exist, yes.

Q : Will there be new Bosses on Silan?
R : No, Yubokin will remain the only King of Silan.

Q : Can a Boss pop simultaneously in several regions and/or several ecosystems?
R : There is little chance of this happening. Since a Boss is placed at the "bottom of the stack" when popping, it should not return anytime soon.

Q : Could two Bosses of the same name (i.e. of the same species and ecosystem) but of different levels – for example Izaketh 120 of Oflavak's Oasis and Izaketh 170 of the Dunes of Exile – pop simultaneously in their respective region of the Desert?
R : Again, it is unlikely to happen: a Boss' placement at the bottom of the stack is independent of his level and host region.

Q : Will two Bosses of different ecosystems but of the same species and level (Raguketh 220 and Ragukin 220 for example) be able to pop simultaneously in their respective ecosystem?
R : Yes, with good chances this time.

Q : What about rare kitins? Will Kidikoo disappear? Will Kizarakoo appear?
R : If we let the system work, yes. But Kizarakoo, for example, is still under discussion within the team (shouldn't such a kitin be reserved for an event ?)

Q : If a Boss of a given level (e.g. Izaketh 170) pops (and gets killed) will the next King of the same name to pop be of another level (e.g. Izaketh 120) or not?
R : Yes, the next tests should verify that the system will rotate the levels of the same King at its successive pops.

Q: What about Cratchakyo, which has been on hold for some time?
A: This one was a scripted King, yes... It will stay on hold for some more time.

Boss refactoring - Ryzom Forge meeting - 2021-01-18

Q: Will the names of the current Bosses be changed?
A: Non. Mais il y en aura de nouveaux !

Q: Will the value of the items collected from the remains of a Boss be related to the level of the latter?
A: Yes, the loot obtained from a low level Boss has less value than that obtained from a high level Boss.

Q: Is another test phase scheduled? And if so, for when?
A: Yes, a test phase on the development server will start soon (there are still some problems with the new loots and we hope to have it finished by the end of this week.

Q: Will a Boss of level N now be able to give up to his executors a loot of higher quality than N?
A: No: a killed Boss still provides a loot of equal quality to his level.

Q: Will there be Boss level lower than 70 and intermediate to the current scale (70 | 120 | 170 | 220 | 270)?
A: No, but the number of Bosses will increase significantly for each level of the recalled scale.

Q: When will these changes take effect in game?
A: As soon as possible, i.e. as soon as conclusive tests are completed... tests whose duration depends on the number of volunteer testers.

Q: Will there be new Bosses accessible for beginner characters (on Silan)?
A: No, the project concerns only the continents and the Prime Roots.

Q: Will there be other "corrupt" Bosses, like Cratchakyo was?
A: No, this is not planned at the moment.

Patch - 2021-05-17

The new Bosses are ready to appear on new popping sites. Here are some of their characteristics:

• All species present in a region of Atys produce a Boss to appear in that region.
• Conversely, no Boss of a given species will ever pop in a region where no creatures of that species live (so there is no point hoping to find a vorax Boss in a region where no vorax has ever been seen).
• When a Boss dies on a given site, another Boss, from the same region, is elected to succeed him and appear on the said site within a few days (random duration).
• The level of Bosses is in accordance with the level of the region in which they appear (thus, a level 250 region only hosts level 270 Bosses).
• Two Bosses cannot appear simultaneously on the same site.
• Several Bosses of the same species can appear simultaneously in different regions (such as Armkoo and Armkan), or even several Bosses of the same look (such as Armkoo 220 and Armkoo 270).
• The rotation of Bosses on the sites of the same region is favored. Thus, you will not always meet the same Boss on the same site, but often another of the valid Bosses of the region.

  The implementation of this new popping system of Bosses, started a few days after that of the patch described here, has been carried out in three stages in rapid succession:

• Step 1: appearances in the Nexus, at a faster pace than usual at first (in order to validate the system without too much delay), then, from the next step on, at the usual pace (every three or four days).
• Step 2: appearances in Prime Roots at the usual pace.
• Step 3: appearances throughout Atys at the usual pace.

Ryzom Forge meeting - 2021-06-14

Are the new Bosses now active as well?
They are only active in the Nexus at the moment, and will be active in the Prime Roots after the next patch, and then everywhere on Atys.

Fix of the new bosses in test in Nexus - 2021-08-01

We added a fix for the new boss system to improve the boss guards.

For information, the reported bugs are also present in the old boss system. To fix this we  made the following changes:

• All guards respawn after 60 seconds.
• There are 3 groups of guards now, when they are defeated no new guards respawn.

The bug with multiple bosses spawning at the same time is also fixed.

Новый алгоритм для боссов в Корнях Прайма

Мы только что выпустили на Atys новый алгоритм для спавна боссов в Корнях Праймов.

Этот алгоритм больше не работает со случайностью между минимумом и максимумом, а работает со случайностью между 0 и динамическим максимумом.

Динамический максимум зависит от времени предыдущего спавна: чем быстрее появляются боссы в зоне, тем выше максимум, и наоборот, чем реже они появляются, тем ниже максимум.

В среднем босс появляется в зоне каждые 24 часа, но время его появления варьируется от 5 минут до нескольких дней.

Кроме того, расчет зависит уже не от времени смерти, а от времени спавна босса. Если босс остается в живых долгое время, велика вероятность, что следующий быстро появится.

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