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#1 Добавлено Nehrie 8 лет назад  

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So much of the knowledge of life on Ryzom is held only by old players.

Then the old player goes inactive.

I don't know if this was done to achieve more team play or what.

I would really like to go to the encyclopedia or help and actually have some help.

So my suggestions is:

BETTER HELP FILES

Thank you,

Nehrie

Last edited by Nehrie (8 лет назад)

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#2 Добавлено Kovabon 8 лет назад  

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Some guilds have such help files. However, they are only available to guild members, as they should be, in my opinion.

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#3 Добавлено Nehrie 8 лет назад  

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I don't understand why help files should be the sole property of a guild unless that guild made the help files.

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#4 Добавлено Mjollren 8 лет назад  

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At some point Cathach* started writing a sort of (longer) manual for Ryzom. Unfortunately the player fell off the grid, and the last time we talked, he said his manual is "with the Ryzom team for translation", pending release. I would have a few choice words to say about this approach, but they're not too polite. In any case, the manual never got released, although the English version is probably complete. Maybe it *needs* to be translated to Korean first..


*I hope I got their name right ☺

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#5 Добавлено Naema 8 лет назад  

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Doesn't anybody use the Wiki anymore?
There is plenty of good information there, there is Silan manual and other manuals to Ryzom there.

#6 Добавлено Xanix 8 лет назад  

#7 Добавлено Gidget 8 лет назад  

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Nehrie

I don't understand why help files should be the sole property of a guild unless that guild made the help files.

Many times it is. A lot of times, such "help files" include things like standard tactics for the guild or preferred recipes or other things that they may not want to share with the entire population of Atys. Not all writers do a bang-up job of separating the "Everyone should know this!" stuff from the secret/semi-secret teachings of the Wise Masters.

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#8 Добавлено Placio 8 лет назад  

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Naema

Doesn't anybody use the Wiki anymore?
There is plenty of good information there, there is Silan manual and other manuals to Ryzom there.

Exactly! There is so much information available to players now: Bmsite, Ryzomtracker, Ryzom database, Ryzomwiki, Bunnytools, cookies guide, Lacuna's PR weather post, Casy's pvp point post, apprentice greedy crafter.... No need to focus on mysterious unknown things that we don't have.

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#9 Добавлено Mjollren 8 лет назад  

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To be fair, a standard / centralized location for information would be helpful. Preferably one that has an index.

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#10 Добавлено Siela 8 лет назад  

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Cathach´s manual is on the wiki in english and french. Thanks to Nilstilar for the most work done on the French translation.

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#11 Добавлено Zorroargh 8 лет назад  

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And in the same time... during all those discussions between troll and flames, some crazy guys as me manage each day 6 wikis for everybody since Ryzom became "open".

And other people, as Zend, Craftjenn, Lanstirill, and even Tamarea..., fill it with a lot of informations... really, in vain?

*disappointed*

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#12 Добавлено Loved 8 лет назад  

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Not in vain
We still use the wiki
And the app devs who make in game tools no doubt, use the info

If there is any missing knowledge it can be added =)

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#13 Добавлено Arfur 8 лет назад  

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The Wiki is the best single resource for information, Lore etc. and the Ballistic Mystix site and the other above mentioned sites have other strengths.

I have written articles for the Wiki and edited others. I am surprised that more people don't add to the many unfinished articles, for instance with lists of mobs to be found in a particular area. It is easy to do.

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#14 Добавлено Nehrie 8 лет назад  

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I use the wiki.

My concern is more with ingame help files.

Who runs these other sites? Could they just be taken down any day.

In the game I played previously the game was very dependent on a website called floxa's. Then someone killed her and looted her. She quit the game.

Medievia (the game) still uses that archived website but it is over ten years old.

I would just hate to see one of the external links shut down and there go any help files that IMHO should be included ingame.

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#15 Добавлено Placio 8 лет назад  

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Ok, so i'm honestly a bit confused.

Nehrie

So much of the knowledge of life on Ryzom is held only by old players.

Nehrie

I don't understand why help files should be the sole property of a guild unless that guild made the help files.

Nehrie

My concern is more with ingame help files.

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I would just hate to see one of the external links shut down and there go any help files that IMHO should be included ingame.

I've never actually used the ingame help window, although now it seems to have a cool tutorial with on screen indicators :)

But generally, I sense an inconsistency, where you are saying the information players have collected should be public, yet your complaint is with the client's files, which players have no control over :(