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TL;DR : I started and co-animated the first Atreus part (the interesting one, april to august 2013).

Everything started early 2013 (around march), during a discussion with another player (who actually was part of the event team, but i had no idea at the time). We wondered how much we could force the atys lore with a player event ; after some hesitation, we decided to make believe that Dexton was back : neither him nor me nor anyone was able to swallow his death, it was interesting and we would have the adhesion of other players. We decided on a character close to the trytonnist, with a voluntary blurred background.

We create the event character (on free account, so the Atreus used by the event team is actually named Aatreus since Atreus is already taken ;P), trained them a little (for Atreus, he needed a little more than 200 health), geared them, and you know what happened next (if not, Eeri & Mermaidia did a fabulous thread about that). We did a lot of smalls events, without the event team knowing and it went pretty well :-P I've decided to bring Geyos in the fyros politics because / thanks to Atreus (Icus couldn't be completely devoted to Atreus, it was way better to use Glorf in this regard), and having 2 differents character in this allowed me more liberty for the event, even if i didn't separated enough their different beliefs imo.

After a while, i've started feeling zhoi under bamboo (a play on words on the expression "anguille sous roche", which seems to be translated as "to smell a rat" in english, if someone could confirm i don't want this to be offensive) and finally discovered the nice player was an evil event team :-P It was around june, iirc. The dance kept on, still without the knowing of the event team (Tamarea wasn't aware at all, there might have been some individual members who knew it, i don't know). We never took a 100% sure stance about Atreus (whether it was Dexton or an usurper), even if the encounter with Lykos in the cavern didn't left much room to interpretation. End of july / start of august, we had a break (i went in holidays, and most of the people weren't here), and it was more or less the end of Atreus.

There was a big big break period, partly because the team finally heard of the project (and, obviously, didn't knew what do to) and it created internal issues. I had no idea about what was happening at the moment, and i didn't felt like tooking the character and doing an event (and i couldn't rename anyone and had no access to Epus/Thulam/Decalion ...) by myself. So when Icus decided to leave to find Atreus, it was to shake the anthill (that i helped to build). After that, i had basically no influence, except when i announced that treus/Dexton probably had Dyros rot (don't remember the english name, the special affliction Dexton had, around 2550 & The tear of the Emperor sequence pre-merge) ; after that, the only information i had were the public ones.

Some will probably ask why i've created this thread ; multiple reasons :
* I'm not found of the secret atmosphere, i find it a big ridiculous.
* It was one of the few nice events (i'm obviously not objective about that :P) and who changed a lot of things (i think that everyone can agree on that) since the merge, some explications doesn't hurt :)
* Out of respect for everyone who took part in it

Kisses everyone (except those i don't like)

Icus

Thank you for creating events. Keep up the good work and I hope you are successful with Atreus. :D

Merci pour cet event.
J'espère que tu reviendras en jeu. Les LF me manquent!

I'm slightly puzzled, as Google Translate is an ugly instrument, trashing language into obscure babbling.

Atreus is dead by now now, isn't he? Killed by the same illness as his brother?

Watching only from the outside, I found the concept of the Atreus event intriguing - could have led to a civil war in Fyros, which is a perfect heated-up place for stuff like that.

I was a bit surprised that you mentioned Zhoi, though, as - as far as I know - was not involved at all in the Atreus thingy, nor did she oppose it.

Ahh, can someone summarize in English please? I get that this event was supposed to push some boundaries, but I fail to understand the rest completely.

@Mjollren: Generally, Icus speaks about how he and others developed the idea for the Atreus event and how they organised it with the event team.

@ Salazar:
My french language skills can't catch up with Icus' colloquial french terms but it seems to me there had been some discussions behind the scenes during the event.

Concerning lore content: It seems the event was meant as kind of experiment around the question wether Emperor Dexton was really dead or not.
As far as I understand, at some point nobody knew how to proceed with the event story. So Icus decided to search for 'Atreus' and 'shake the anthill' (nice term :)).

I hope my understanding of the event story is correct that at the end it turned out that Atreus was a twin brother of late Emperor Dexton and that he (Atreus) died at the end of the event series.

I hereby present a rough translation of Icus' article. I am aware that Icus, whose capacity in the english language is no worse than mine, could have done that himself but omitted it due to his usual arrogance and ruthlessness. All errors are mine, of course, but the responsibility and blame rests with Icus and his usual deviant behaviour.Comments are of course mine and clearly separated by double brackets.

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The Truth about Atreus

In fast, if you bother to read, I co-hosted and launched the first part of the Atreus event (the interesting one, in April / August 2013).

All of it started early in 2013 (around March), discussing with another player (who was host, even though at that time I had no idea). We wondered how far one could force the lore of atys events with a player; we procrastinated a bit, we decided to make people think we were bringing back Dexton (since neither he nor I nor anyone else had digested his death, that interested us and we knew we would have a playful side membership ). After poking around a lot, we went on the assumption of something close to Trytonism, with deliberate blurring of the real history
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We created the event characters (on free accounts, suddenly the Atreus character used by the team was called Aatreus since Atreus already existed; P), led some (for Atreus, he would not walk around with 200 pvs), equipped, and you know what happened :) We launched many small events, all behind the back of the rest of the event team, and did that it pretty well: - P. I decided to bring in the intrigues by the Fyros Geyos mainly because through Atreus (I could not go on completely devoted to Atreus as Icus while Glorf was much more consistent in this point of view) I could have both player characters involved which allowed me to raise the matter in two different ways, although for my taste I have not thought enough to separate the two.

Well obviously after a while I started to feel that there was a Zhoi beneath the bamboo ((?? idiotic Icus rant without much of meaning except of male aggressivity towards his female arch enemy IMHO)) , eventually discovering that the nice PC was behind a horrible event guide :-P . It was around June in my memory. The dance continued, still undercover with respect to the rest of the event team (Tamarea was certainly not aware of, there may be other individuals who were against it). It was never entirely ruled on the case of Atreus (true or false, although after the secret meeting with Lykos it was pretty clear to me). In late July / early August, we took a break (I'm gone on vacation, bad person as I was), and it was more or less the end of Atreus in fact.

After, there was a big hole period, partly because the team had finally leant about the project (and obviously did not know what to do) and it has created some internal concerns. I had no clue at the time what was going on, and I felt no highlight characters and make an event (in addition I could not rename euracus, I had no access to epus / Thulam / decalion. ..) all alone. So when I decided to go in search Atreus was actually to shake the anthill (which I had helped to manufacture). Then I generally had more influence at all, except when I announced qu'Atreus / Dexton had probably wilt Dyros (and from that moment I had no further information apart public ones).

Some will probably ask me why I post this; many reasons :
* I'm not a fan of the prevailing climate of secrets, it's a bit ridiculous at times
* It's still one of the few friendly events (well, I am obviously not objective on that :-P) and has quite shake things (there, I think we can agree on this point) since fusion, a little explanation does not hurt :)
* Out of respect for all those involved

Of kisses to all (except to those I do not like)

((fortunately not to me, I would vomit for a month. In German: "Küss mich Icus, ich will kotzen"
Daomei the uncompromising))

Icus

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/ Msg Glorf on irc.freenode.net if you want me to say mean things (if it is to be kind, please email bisou@glorf.fr)

(( I do not intend to say mean things. I felt this event to be one of the most misplaced and destructive towards the post merge community though it may have comforted some of the provincial feelings of former Aniro players. I am utterly grateful towards Tam and Ceru to have brought this disgrace to a peaceful and halfways satisfactory end. Just my opinion))

merci de tes commentaires éclairants a propos d'Icus Daomei c’était capitale ....

To be honest, this post is pretty much a copy/paste of a mail i sent Eeri a couple of months ago. I found it while looking for something completely different and thought it might interested people. I assumed if people were interested enough, someone would kindly do a proper translation. Sadly you took the occasion to slander me one last time, this is lovely :)

Added the translation to the original post (couldn't do a proper multilingual post, dunno why)

@Azazor : très improbable, et encore moins probable que ça soit pour jouer un légionnaire, j'ai entendu dire que les matis sont rigolo ces temps-ci.

As to the "slander": Nemo me impune lacessit. You got what you asked for, not once, but different times. I invited discourse and harvested slander so often. I am not gentle and never asserted to be. I am a soldier, dedicated to my duty, but also a homin being, responding to many insults in the past. All that may be gone now, so rest in peace. Not many good feelings going with you but so what.

just for the record.

Daomei (unforgiving)

Well, thanks Nuzanshi, and thanks for the translations which followed afterwards. I'm especially grateful to Icus for the explanation of the Zhoi bit - it shows that it's damn complicated to translate a saying into another language, especially when one played with it!

Regarding the Atreus thing - I'm (once again!) not with Daomei on that. As said, I found it pretty intriguing. It was clear to me, as a player, that it couldn't be Dexton, who died on all servers, and it would have been ridiculous to bring him back. As a character, one can't be that sure. How many timelines "melted" into one? The "River of Time" still generated and generates weird effects. Anyway, it did produce in-game tension, which, as far as I'm concerned, is generally a good thing in roleplay (OOC tension is, as always, less delightful).

The passing of judgement, by the way, was the first time I returned to the Desert since the Kitin attack on Pyr. I even thought about asking for an interview with the dying Atreus, but then decided that chances for it would have been as good as those of an ant at the aardvarks yearly get-together! ^^

A mon avis l'histoire d'Atreus tenait plus la route et s'inscrivait beaucoup plus dans une logique RP que n'importe quel Megacorp ou Rivière du temps.
Juste dommage qu'autant de temps se soit écoulé entre chaque partie.

Merci pour les explications en tous cas et... sans rancune les LFs ;)

J'aurais titré le topic "Une vérité sur Atreus" à ta place :-p

Je suppose que y a prescription sur tout ça maintenant... Et qu’on peut en raconter un peu plus.

/!\ Attention, ceci ne reflète pas le fin mot de l’événement comme il s’est joué. Il faut considérer ce qui suit comme une “proto”-histoire (et c’est un peu décousu).

Il se passait pas grand chose à l’époque, donc on s’est dit, pourquoi pas faire quelque chose ensemble. L'objectif était d'insuffler un peu d'animation dans le désert et de renouer le contact entre les acteurs qui s'entendaient pas vraiment/ne communiquaient pas vraiment (pour la communauté francophone).

L'idée du scénario Atreus s'inspire pas mal de Dune de F. Herbert (d'ailleurs Atréides -> Atreus). Le synopsis de base c'était d'avoir un personnage qui pouvait prendre le désert de force en gagnant des partisans et créer une vraie confrontation avec le pouvoir en place (Lykos+nouveaux militaires). Rien que ça spoile un peu les grandes lignes de l’idée. D’abord convaincre les Patriote de Thesos en vue de créer un groupe qui pourrait aller jusqu’à la dissidence et/ou la guerre civile. Et les réunir autour d’une figure de proue forte et charismatique. (C'était un objectif inatteignable, au vu de la nature de l'event, cf. plus loin.)

Le personnage de "Dexton/Atreus" s'est imposé assez vite comme personnage principal, sans pour autant que ce soit forcément Dexton lui-même revenu d’entre les morts. Donc nous sommes partis sur un "Dexton" dont les caractéristiques physiques permettaient d'établir un lien avec Dexton, tout en semant le doute : même taille, même poids, même prestance, même voix, mais visage défiguré... Un Dexton plus "vrai" que nature en somme. Là où il fallait bien faire attention, c’est qu’il n’y avait pas d’élément prouvant à 100 % qu’Atreus était bien Dexton. L’intention n’était pas vraiment de faire revenir Dexton à la vie. Mais de faire croire que Dexton aurait pu être en vie, et de confronter les personnages “dans le secret” à un dilemme : croire que Dexton est en vie (ce qui répond à un désir) ou croire que c’est un imposteur (ce qui correspond à la "réalité") et ensuite agir en fonction... L’intervention d’Artherius avait principalement l’objectif de semer le doute dans l’esprit des personnages impliqués : oui, ça “pouvait” être Dexton (entouré de Faces Brûlées, “reconnu” par son fils)… De nouveau, on pouvait mettre en doute tout ce qui se passait, tout se faisait dans la précipitation et il n’y avait pas de preuve réellement tangible qui validait ou non une “vérité” (certains participants à l’événement l'ont très bien compris). Puis au final, peut-être que Dexton aurait bien pu être en vie pour finir... *musique de X-Files*

Maintenant, il fallait des compagnons à Atreus. Et hop, un profil de politicien : Euracus apparaît, ancien sénateur, il a quitté son office lors du deuxième Exode. Il est tombé sur Atreus lors du retour dans les Nouvelles Terres et décide de servir d’intermédiaire entre les Patriotes et Atreus. Qui d’autres ? Des figures de renom qui ne semblaient plus dans les faveurs de l’équipe d’animation : les faces brûlées. Les possibilités devenaient assez nombreuses. Il y avait peut-être un Fyros “riche” derrière l’apparition qui finançait tout ça pour gagner du pouvoir. Il s’agissait peut-être d’un complot militaire (Faces brûlées) pour prendre le pouvoir (il est important de considérer que le Deuxième Grand Essaim est un élément d’histoire qui à changé la vie de pas mal de monde sur Atys. Donc c’était vraisemblable. Cela pouvait être également un jeu des puissances, qui faisaient revenir ce bon vieux Dexton à la vie pour lui faire accomplir quelque chose… (je parle bien du moment du brainstorming ici). On aurait aussi pu imaginer que les Matis étaient derrière tout ça (cf. Mephyros Xytis qui est conseiller du Karan).

Bref, il fallait trouver une histoire qui expliquait le fait qu’il soit défiguré… Il a donc été torturé après sa mort dans canyon / par la flétrissure de Dyros. Il a ensuite été sauvé, caché et soigné. Les Faces brûlées l’ont alors entouré et sont devenus ses gardes du corps.

Les éléments de base étaient maintenant plus ou moins posés... Il restait plus qu'à le faire connaître et essayer d’attirer l’attention. Et quoi de mieux qu'un petit message de groupe à tous les chefs de guilde patriotes [francophones] pour ça. Le fait de concerner les francophones était délibéré. Le vague objectif était que toute l’histoire reste plus ou moins secrète *sifflotte* et ne sorte pas de Thesos (et donc soit limitée aux joueurs francophones). Pour cette raison, ça s’est effectivement fait en sous-marin au sein de l’animation (oui, ce n’est pas bien). À noter que ça ne s'est pas fait entièrement en sous-marin, on va dire qu'une partie des éléments avait été donnée à toute l'animation, mais que certains éléments étaient restés cachés. Il y a donc eu des interventions 100% "officielles" (comme les entrevues avec Abycus).

Après, il a suffi de profiter de l’absence de l’animateur en charge des assemblées de Thesos pour y ramener Euracus et pour évoquer le sujet histoire de lui donner un peu de contenance. S’en sont suivies une série de rencontres et la suite c’est de l’histoire. Le topic de Mermaidia sur le forum des éclaireurs résume bien l’histoire.

Pour ce qui est de la vérité, elle n’était pas écrite et ne l’aurait sans doute jamais été si la séquence avait été terminée comme prévu. Il y aurait sans doute eu une fin ouverte et tout le monde aurait été libre d'interpréter la fin de l'histoire comme il l'entendait, et d'en débattre.

Du coup, l’histoire est restée en friche et a été finie tant bien que mal par des autres personnes.

Pour le temps qui s'écoulait entre les parties, c'était du à un boulot aléatoire qui allait de 20h à 75h/semaine et de grosses démotivations liées à différentes choses, le tout saupoudré de problèmes de santé (:o)).

punaise a lire ça, ça donne envie...... l'idée d'une insurrection/séparation d'une des ville d'un pays, la prise de pouvoir d'un tier (avec du mystère et tout derrière en plus =) ).

ça changerais du planplan actuel.... quand je repense a l'avant fusion, conflit en entre matis et fyros, empoisonnement, séparatiste, stevano qui veut conquérir le monde........et maintenant .....bon en même temps je doit bien avouer que je suis plus les events que de loin tellement l'ennui m'a gagné...

*rêve d'une guerre avec les matis et d'une insurrection contre l'empereur pour le remplacer par un type qui a plus de trempe*