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#51 Добавлено Binarabi 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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Trying to put together an Aris history for mara homins ... also trying to recover from some suggestions from Aniro homins about what should have happened to Nizyros

And I think we have to discuss this Virg - because this seems a big clash between the Aris and Aniro community - and again we are doing this on role play forum ... oh well

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#52 Добавлено Virg 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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Well when a previously seen (on Ari) non-RP event ends up being turned into a RP event (non-RP->RP) one can only assume that people will get angry and try and turn it back around (RP->non-RP). The shame is that it is on the RP forum in the first place where imo it doesn't belong (Ref: Tamarea's definitions).

I had a little read on Nizy's case and could not quite believe that they wanted to completely stop him from playing on that account all together. After X many years of work.. Well in doing so they aren't really doing any positive promotion (imo) for RP. "Hey come RP and we will try to stop you playing on your main toon!"

Hopefully we can find a fix but all of my propositions have been turned down without much reason or rhyme.

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#53 Добавлено Binarabi 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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Virg (atys)

"Hey come RP and we will try to stop you playing on your main toon!"

Makes me think we should have a warning for new refugees - as in potential subbed homins - Beware what race and alligence you take - it makes a huge difference to your experience of the game - and to be honest I find that very sad

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#54 Добавлено Bitttymacod 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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I can point out here that the Support crew could do a rename if requested as a way out of the RP "killing Nizyros". A name change and a new tattoo and we put him on the protective services plan and it's all good. I'm assuming that Nizyros was voluntarily playing the villain in this scenario.

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#55 Добавлено Binarabi 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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But hell's bells Bittty - do you not see this as something over the top? The RP Nizyros has done is fine and was carefully worked out - time has been spent on it - this criticism is just obsessive and, also, means all refugees should get a warning about what race and alliance they choose when they start the game - which in my opinion is just not right!

Nizyros is automatically a villain - according to Aniro lore - see what is written above - but he has had his name for some 10 years I suspect - so this is just not on!

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#56 Добавлено Suboxide 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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> Actually Tamarea you got to kill nobody or 1-2 tops to do mara lore it's been broken for months!!!!!!!!!!!

Then again:

English NON-RP discussion versus French RP means we need to ask the French RP event team to fix it?????

Sorry but tamarea in all of this you are part of the problem here, you are part of the community the discussion is about or against or who knows. Yes Tos or CoC says somewhere me telling you that is a bannable offence so go on.

It still comes down to how different servers where and you coming from the other server have no rights to tell us coming from ari that our way of playing was/is wrong.
I feel sorry for you but on ari mara was played differently and Akilla and such who we meat trough roleplay on our server was portrayed differently aswell.

I come from a server where my fame meant nothing for my gameplay and I want that server back. I hate ryzom more and more by the day sadly because it's now a game where just some players got all the rights to pester you away RP wise. RP is nice but pestering ppl away with RP is whats going on now but I guess me telling you wich is part of that RP group will do nuthing!!!

We all like/liked ryzom for what It got but it's easy kind off atm RP players RP so are in contact with event team, Non-RP players don't RP so are in contact with nobody and only got these forums to react to what the RP community is doing to them.

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=> rant over for now hope to all see you ingame and be friendly but I guess thats impossible since I'm not even allowed by the french to rez them (yes I get insults if I rez a player I see death these days)

=> Will haplly sub 4 accounts instead of 2 now to support this game if we get our old server and way of playing back since now I play a game wich i'm starting to hate on this server.

Please mind the language when posting, edited to remove offensive swearing.

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#57 Добавлено Binarabi 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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Suboxide (atys)

> Actually Tamarea you got to kill nobody or 1-2 tops to do mara lore it's been broken for months!!!!!!!!!!!

Then again:

English NON-RP discussion versus French RP means we need to ask the French RP event team to fix it?????

Sorry but tamarea in all of this you are part of the problem here, you are part of the community the discussion is about or against or who knows. Yes Tos or CoC says somewhere me telling you that is a bannable offense so go on.

It still comes down to how different servers were and you coming from the other server have no rights to tell us coming from ari that our way of playing was/is wrong.
I feel sorry for you but on ari mara was played differently and Akilla and such who we met through roleplay on our server was portrayed differently as well.

I come from a server where my *&^%*** fame meant nothing for my game-play and I want that server back. I hate ryzom more and more by the day sadly because it's now a game where just some players got all the rights to pester you away RP wise. RP is nice but fucking pestering ppl away with RP is what's going on now but I guess me telling you which is part of that RP group will do nothing!!!

We all like/liked ryzom for what it's got but it's easy kind of atm RP players RP so are in contact with event team who does stuff to &^**@$ over non-RPers for them, Non-RP players don't RP so are in contact with nobody and only got these forums to react to what the RP community is doing to them.
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=> rant over for now, hope to all see you in game and be friendly but I guess that's impossible since I'm not even allowed by the French to rez them (yes I get insults if I rez a player I see dead these days)

=> Will happily sub 4 accounts instead of 2 now to support this game if we get our old server and way of playing back since now I play a game which I'm starting to hate on this server.

This is true Subbo - and not having an OOC forum to discuss it all on is really not good - we have a community issue here and this is a community problem - though maybe it is not a problem for the hard-line role players?

I tried to write "History" of our experience on Aris - but probably no one much is reading it ...

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#58 Добавлено Virg 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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I can point out here that the Support crew could do a rename if requested as a way out of the RP "killing Nizyros".

Bittty, I can point out that Icus actually stated that he didn't want a namechange to happen- just the char to stop playing all together. Many roleplayers themselves give such a bad impression of what it is like to roleplay. I have attended many different meetings (some in peace, others to RP-PVP) and players can be nothing but intrusive and rude, only coming out of RP to swear at you. Recently whilst attempting to talk about the FHF fair issues, which I went out of my way to find a RP reason, I was merely told by a RP player to fuck off, on the uni channel, without any attempt to engage in my said RP. I have know a few great RPers who attempt to get everyone on board, but they are small in number (Grizabella, The person behind "Convict" and some other chars). At least many PvPers attempt to be advocates of the activity they love.

It is sad that it is these types RPers, many who are just simply nasty, have the ears of the higher powers that be. The marauders for example have been waiting for fixes to happen for months, even years for some content. The tryker RPers want something new to happen and it occurs within 24 hours. They want new guards to fight marauders? *snap* Its done. How about first giving the marauders guards that actually work and perhaps have hands? It's the little things in life...

The one exception I would like to point out was our barmaid getting a quick fix for which I am very grateful.

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#59 Добавлено Icus 1 десятилетие назад [fr]

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Virg (atys)

Bitttymacod (atys)
I can point out here that the Support crew could do a rename if requested as a way out of the RP "killing Nizyros".

Bittty, I can point out that Icus actually stated that he didn't want a namechange to happen- just the char to stop playing all together

Just to say i DO agree with the rename part, and i still think it was the best way to solve this, i said it since the beginning :) do not believe google-trad, please !

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#60 Добавлено Binarabi 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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Icus (atys)

Just to say i DO agree with the rename part, and i still think it was the best way to solve this, i said it since the beginning :) do not believe google-trad, please !

And I still think that is extreme and what Nizyros is doing now is fine by role play standards - why should he loose his name and it's history after all this time? Also would homins who believe this just execute all criminal in real life prisons? The role play was very carefully thought out and I think Jazzy did a great job there

Also - you do know that homins cannot die? Though it might be possible to commit suicide/ hari-kari ... or is that too much Truth?

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#61 Добавлено Icus 1 десятилетие назад [fr]

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Binarabi (atys)

Also - you do know that homins cannot die? Though it might be possible to commit suicide/ hari-kari ... or is that too much Truth?

http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Still_Wyler#Later_years_and_death
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Dexton#Later_years_and_death
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Lirni_Gillo
Want some player death ? Ezek, Kaikyo, Kiatal (not sure about this one), Laofa ...

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#62 Добавлено Binarabi 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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Icus (atys)

Binarabi (atys)
Also - you do know that homins cannot die? Though it might be possible to commit suicide/ hari-kari ... or is that too much Truth?
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Still_Wyler#Later_years_and_death
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Dexton#Later_years_and_death
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Lirni_Gillo
Want some player death ? Ezek, Kaikyo, Kiatal (not sure about this one), Laofa ...

This must have been with the agreement of Jena - at some point
We are repaired all the time
Possibly they were becoming some sort of threat to the Real Powers that be

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#63 Добавлено Jazzy 1 десятилетие назад [fr]

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Icus... Ezek...? T'es sûr???
Si on te tue, jveux plus voir ton perso IG... Pas sûr que tu acceptes!

Virg, donne moi tes propositions d'aide, ou un lien vers ces propositions svp.

Subo: tu as raisoon les français on tous les pouvoirs sur ryzom, on te permet de jouer c'est bien, non?
(Reflexion stupide, on essaye de comprendre votre jeu alors que vous ne cherchez pas a comprendre le notre)

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#64 Добавлено Icus 1 десятилетие назад [fr]

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Icus... Ezek...? T'es sûr???
Si on te tue, jveux plus voir ton perso IG... Pas sûr que tu acceptes!

Il me semble que le perso a été tué non ? (après qu'il ait rename ça je sais )as
Enfin j'avais cru comprendre ça lors du procès, mais me suis pitet trompé !
Ça change pas grand chose, ya quand même des persos qui sont morts sur Atys :-P

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#65 Добавлено Suboxide 1 десятилетие назад [en]

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I think I do understand:

Me => plays for fun to relax totally not immersive or looking at anything
You => plays totally immersive (in role all the time)

< I don't mind somebody playing immersive (I don't understand why but then again not everyone is the same); what I don't like is being told i'm bad or being told I should get lost; or being forced stuff upon me, or ... wich seems that alot of immersive players seem to want to do.

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