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#48 Ajouté par Nehrie il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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#49 Ajouté par Fyrosfreddy il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Or do what I did; select the information and copy/paste it to a text file.

There is the option of getting the Bunny Tool that calculates it. Right now it's just a spreadsheet tho I know the copy here isn't the latest, that was on Bunnynet.

I also understand that various game updates have changed some of the values since this was done. I will try and read thru thread and collect all in one post before updating the tool.

This is the latest ones I have so far (been working on testing them of late:







Weapon ones are set up that if ya enter the blue text, it calculates the rest





The red ones need to be confirmed

I will see if I can push this one up on the priority list to be converted into an in game app.

The blue ones is where ya put in ya level and it calculates the relevant columns.

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#50 Ajouté par Arcueid il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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I have been following this topic with great interest. Do you think it is possible to create a single formula for all usecases, so all a user has to do is change parameters?

I would love to add more postcraft values to KipeeCraft and finalize the program with a 1.2 version. Right now I have mostly jewelry and magic focus stats added, because those were easy to add and probably wont change in the future.

I'm looking for a simple solution to change these conversions (preview window -> final item stat) for everyone.

So far I believe the following things are involved in this formula:

- the crafting plan, for example max hit per minute differ on axe vs sword
- the quality of the item, for example damage scales with item q
- the preview value (of course)

Am I missing something? I'd love to get some feedback from some more wise homins, I haven't mastered all crafts and I am not familiar for example with exception to the general rules or bugs.

I'll start with an example for magic focus, the formula is 0.8*preview + 20.

y = ax+b

This does not involve the item quality or plan. Now I need your help, how do the other formulas look? Is it possible to get them all into ONE single formula?

Looking forward to your ideas!

arc

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#51 Ajouté par Fyrosfreddy il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Most of those formulas were either directly listed or derived for "Patch Notes". And then were later revised when 'adjustmenmts" were made, again with most coming voia patch notes. As with your past efforts, as a math geek, will be pleased to assist in any way possible. My efforts at present have been focused on finding the lost shields formula.

I think I m misinterpreting the "one formula" goal ... the answer is 42 ! ... do you mean one formulay that solves every craft ?

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#52 Ajouté par Arcueid il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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One formula which can be made fit for every craft by changing the parameters, yes.

Let's say the formula is y = a*x + b

The user enters the following:

Amp / Magic Focus a = 0.8 b = 20 --> 82% preview = 85 final
Jewelry / Protection a = 0.08 b = 0 --> 50% preview = 4 final
Sap Load a = 30 b = 0 --> 20% preview = 600 final (I don't know the exact values atm)

and so on... as you see some things are missing, like Quality for Damage and other stats. The final formula would be larger... I don't know if this approach is possible, just a thought I had to simplify programming.

arc

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#53 Ajouté par Karu il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Stat math can be found in sources

Most (if not all) base formulas are

post = min + (max - min) * pre

Obviously damage gets modified by item quality and weight precraft means how light item will be so formula is bit different.

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#54 Ajouté par Placio il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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When I am designing my next set of Pvp gear I'll send you what I figure out Arc. But all the important stats are linear to my knowledge, so making 2 of an itme with different classes of generic mats is all the data you need. I think HA vs stat at q250 is post=333+333*pre, and possibly MA vs is same but at 222 base... been a while though

#55 Ajouté par Arcueid il y a 9 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Karu

Stat math can be found in sources ...

Thank you very much! The code is not pretty, but I will try to learn from it.

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#56 Ajouté par Yubina il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Placio

But all the important stats are linear to my knowledge, so making 2 of an itme with different classes of generic mats is all the data you need.

By coincidence, I planed this for some time and I did it last week.

I used Generic Basic mats (pre-craft 20) and Generic Choice mats (pre-craft 50).
blue cells are freshly harvested in-game data,
dark blue cells are in-game values with decimals added (because decimals are mostly cut off on the in-game values),
the other values are calculated from the blue values

And I finished the rite "Fyros Story 2" that gives me a permanent durability bonus on crafted items,
I think the durability added is 20% of the base durability (at pre-craft 0), no matter what the actual pre-craft value for durability is (but I'm still investigating).

All without any warranty, but I hope you will find it as useful as I do

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DuLskZT2tGVPRW1zrOSFFLfpA jG5xpx0lL54YwPbgQc/edit?usp=sharing

#57 Ajouté par Fyrosfreddy il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Yunbina .... Have you found any variation from the above formulas (Post #49) ?

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#58 Ajouté par Yubina il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Fyrosfreddy

Yunbina .... Have you found any variation from the above formulas (Post #49) ?

I didn't compare everything, I marked some very diffrent or strange values in orange, but the forumulas for weapons are all the same.
And some of the values have multiple possible results, depending on rounding.
Question answered?

#59 Ajouté par Fyrosfreddy il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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I tested the numbers in red and confirmed what was there or fixed it where I found discrepancies. Though as this will be part of Bunny Tools, and don't want to be updating two threads, you will find all updates there.

Bunny Tools - Crafting Ranges (Weapons)

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#60 Ajouté par Placio il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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Hi Freddy!

I'm sure you'll read my post on the KC thread but just wanted to suggest using the 2h sword formula as the base dmg that the weapon factors modify. I think the BMsite might actually disagree with the results at very low levels, but BM might actually be wrong in that case, still trying to test but its hard to et q1-5 mats :P

#61 Ajouté par Arcueid il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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You can use Yubo parts and / or craft in HA for degrade.

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#62 Ajouté par Placio il y a 8 ans Reporter | Citer 

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thx Arc, just finished a yubo genocide here in yrk :P