DeepL translation exceptions list - Traduction

#1 Ajouté par Moniq il y a 4 ans Multilingue

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Hallo homins!

Vous connaissez tous la traduction automatique qui est maintenant disponible sur les canaux ALENTOUR, UNIVERS et FORGE. Cependant, la traduction peut se révéler très erronée en cas de contenu spécifique à Ryzom. Pour l'améliorer un peu, nous devons créer un dictionnaire avec Ryzom, des termes relatifs au jeu qui permettra de corriger certains problèmes de traduction. La liste est publique, donc lisible et exportable par tous, via l'application DeepList que vous pouvez installer depuis l' AppZone.

Les modifications publiques ne sont pas autorisées, mais vous pouvez utiliser ce fil de discussion du forum pour suggérer des termes ou tout soucis supplémentaires que vous auriez rencontré.

Dernière édition par Moniq (il y a 4 ans). | Raison: multilingual post

#2 Ajouté par Hendat il y a 4 ans [en]

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oups, je viens de réaliser que ma suggestion est déjà prise en compte

Dernière édition par Hendat (il y a 4 ans).

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Hendat

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Une Larme parmi Les Larmes
C’est comme une goutte d’eau dans un lac
C’est fragile, mais un lac on peut s’y noyer
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#3 Ajouté par Erisapple il y a 4 ans [en]

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About week ago there was a bad translation. In French it was "le serveur pédale?" somehow in English it translated to "the faggot server". I hope most of us knew it was a poor translation but the word is still offensive.

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#4 Ajouté par Hendat il y a 4 ans [en]

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The verb "pédaler", means to push the pedals of something. But it is also an idiom that means to get nowhere fast. That's what the player meant, talking about the server where Ryzom is running on.

But a server can be a domestic serving at the table. And a "pédale" is something operated by the foot, like a bicycle pedal. And in more familiar and offensive language, it means a homosexual man!

And why do they use "pédale" to refer to a homosexual man? "Pédale" is a derivative of "pédéraste" (pederast).

Edité 3 fois | Dernière édition par Hendat (il y a 4 ans).

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Hendat

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Une Larme parmi Les Larmes
C’est comme une goutte d’eau dans un lac
C’est fragile, mais un lac on peut s’y noyer
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#5 Ajouté par Yaandor il y a 4 ans [en]

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When I tried the French phrase in Google translate it gave me "the server pedal" as the English translation.

Go figure. :)

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Yaandor | Cult of Dgambi | He who walks alone
Atys is a stern and determined teacher; willing to repeat the same lesson as often as necessary.

#6 Ajouté par Arfur il y a 4 ans [en]

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Aside from the usual metaphors, idioms and so on, some place names are translating literally. While these are easy to figure out, it might be useful to fix these so they are consistent with the names used in the various languages.

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It's bad luck to be superstitious . . .

Palta e decata, nan nec ilne matala.

When one goes on a journey it is not the scenery that changes, but the traveller

#7 Ajouté par Moniq il y a 4 ans [en]

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We will include most (if not all) location names. Same for homin jobs or titles and also animal and plant names.

These lists are known and mostly final so we didn't add them yet. Most of these terms are part of the database already, just for other applications, so I guess I will clone what exists and import or add the rest. This is the easier part.

The harder part is to cover terms that are commonly used by players, cause troubles but are not in any list like specific Atys terms (elyps, kitin, dappers), gaming terms (rez, lag, pw) or words from Atys languages (like "bakun" reported earlier).

#8 Ajouté par Yaandor il y a 4 ans [en]

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Does DeepL support some type of escape characters?

It would be good if we could use something like quoted text to tell it not to translate a phrase. That would solve a lot if issues.

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Yaandor | Cult of Dgambi | He who walks alone
Atys is a stern and determined teacher; willing to repeat the same lesson as often as necessary.

#9 Ajouté par Moniq il y a 4 ans [en]

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I am not sure if you mean an option for players to use it directly in messages or if you mean the automatic translation itself.

You can use ">" prefix in your message to prevent any translation.

Example

>This message will not be translated

In case of this list (from what I know), the correction will be done on our (Ryzom) side. Ulukyn will take the export of those terms and make a dictionary for each language pair that will be used to along with translation to prevent wrong translation.

#10 Ajouté par Yaandor il y a 4 ans [en]

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Directly in the messages, I was thinking of something along the lines of:

Ex: Just ate a big bowl of "jambalya" for lunch.

And have everything translated except "jambalya". Of course I realize there would be issues with that since sentence structure (adjective/noun) and order of direct/indirect objects can vary with language.

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Yaandor | Cult of Dgambi | He who walks alone
Atys is a stern and determined teacher; willing to repeat the same lesson as often as necessary.

#11 Ajouté par Moniq il y a 4 ans [en]

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Yaandor

Directly in the messages, I was thinking of something along the lines of:

Ex: Just ate a big bowl of "jambalya" for lunch.

And have everything translated except "jambalya". Of course I realize there would be issues with that since sentence structure (adjective/noun) and order of direct/indirect objects can vary with language.

Can you create another thread with your suggestion in ideas section? This is actually not bad and not hard to do, imho.

#12 Ajouté par Fyrosfreddy il y a 4 ans [en]