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As to two shards what about those of us (like myself) who want to do RP PvE?

PvP and PvE are not inherently correlated to RP and HRP.

Let's also move half of earth's nations to Mars. I'm kidding, I think the world (Atys server) is big enough for all different people (homins). Another thing I don't get is how restrictions would improve RP. I think RP should be realism. In real world restrictions don't prevent people going their own way. I think real RP is when homins get to decide what to do. Do I want to join/fight this/that race/faction/guild?...

Dj your entire ironic post is based around the fact players within the same guild can't be enemies on the battle field. This is an incorrect assumption and I have seen guild members fight each other a fair amount. Just because two people are in the same guild together does not mean on the battlefield they have to hug and dance around a campfire rather than smash each other into little bitty pieces.

For me personally, there is nothing better than killing the people I train and hunt with. You have both know the hard work each of you have put in to become better at PVP and now its time to see who the work has paid off for :)

Djaimse: While some of your post (the one before the last) was quite amusing, I think that you are missing the point and destroying the discussion by bringing in grievances due to post fusion development of roleplay.

Those worries should be reflected, considered, and solutions proposed, though, to be honest, I do not really see one, at the moment. It was clear that the different traditions of roleplay and gameplay in the three communities would lead to conflicts and clashes, but it would be good to get a bit more objectively and constructively over it.

As to the guilds matter, I see the problem in the rule that aligned guilds may include neutrals, which is not logical in my opinion. For me it is not much different from agnostics allowed to join churches. It does not follow. That marauders, technically, were counted neutrals til now, is a side aspect emphasizing that kind of illogic.

It would be better when neutral guilds were allowed to take everybody, aligned or not, together with neutrals, while aligned guilds could only take aligned ones. I do not see that a Kami believer must hate Karavan followers, or that a Fyros Patriot is obliged to hate Matis Vassals. Clearly, no believer or national is forbidden to do so, but I frown upon attempts to force manichaeic extremism onto everybody aligning herself to a nation or creed.

Btw, at least on Leanon and Ari, there have always been alliances between guilds of different creed or nation when the interest in controlling OPs made it necessary or advisable. There is not only one way to do roleplay and gameplay.

If you think that, you may not understand some things virgy .. I don't think any "french" player think like that, but more like " we chose different way to play with their beliefs and rp ". I don't think "we" (french players) are totally against "friendship" IG. Taking my example, and you do know me since a moment now, i speak to everyone i want regardless of faction ( That's the person in front of the screen) , but i did chose a way to play for Maxxye, Marauder, and if you read Mara lore, it's just obvious i won't play hand in hand with the other factions..

Maybe we should change the way to speak with others, like in the others MMO's , you cannot understand the other factions in uni :p
Yes if you want :)

hmm so choose the 1 server should be RP-PVP? > who is killing this game for his own comfort? > If we need to play toughether then we need to give and take but so far it's been only give to the RP and take from non RP ppl non stop

It's a joke ?

what have you given ?

OP's > since RPers where going ballistic
They did that anti GoS guards at FH stable for RP > atleast they saw their error and removed em again
Events where every homin could go to > all these days is all about faction/race whatever, splitting up ppl and make em think in boxes is great for a great community > yes last is a joke!
Our lore > no where in the rewritten lore wiki does it say mara and akilla did all they could during the great att to help us into kami oasis giving their own lives and so on , I gave op after reading that since it's all one sided again in favour of the other servers.
General Fun > do something and get some RP remark, even building a campfire at FH stables these days get you a tell saying you are not allowed to make one since campfires are only there for RP ppl that have allowance from some tryker gov or whatever
A friendly community > no idea where that one went, but since merger it's only a shadow of it's former self, just look at bina's non rp post every anti post is again an RP one

I am not sure if I understood you right, Djaimse, but I changed my posts to multilingual/EN in case you want to rely on automatic translation. Mind that Goo-Translate is in fact Goo, poor translation bound to misunderstanding.

To the rest: I disagree that the base of the game compells Kami followers to hate Karavaneers and vice versa, or Fyros to hate, attack, insult, humiliate Matis etc.

I had some player characters passing the Fyros, Matis, and Tryker rite (no Zorai so far), as well as some becoming Kamist or Karavaneer. Nowhere in the rites it was demanded that they hate other homins. Cultists are required to reject the opposite cult, and to proselytize among homins of different or neutral alignment. With constant hatred, quarrel, and confrontation, this will hardly be possible.

Much less is there a compulsion towards "racial" hatred. Trykers may become Zorai enlightened, Fyros Matis nobles, and Matis Akenak of the sharük to name a few. Nowhere in the nation rites a homin is obliged to hate homins of other countries.

I know that the Aniro community hat a lively roleplay based on very harsh confrontations between creeds and nations. I do not criticize that, but that was the past. Leanon had a basically pacifist roleplay, conflicts were carried out verbally (take Salazar and his pointed and highly intellectual polemics), not by bashing one another. RP was extremely lively, though, with lots of great events, and I miss it.

Ari was not that RP-intensive, according to my impressions (i peeked into all 3 servers at those times and eagerly read all forums, but surely i may missed a lot). Their dedication to the Lore was laxer, to my impression, and so was the impact of RP to everyday's gameplay (Ari players please correct me if I am wrong).

Now let us face the facts: Leanon was the smallest community, and Ari the largest, Aniro inbetween. We have to manage to reconcile our styles of gameplay and roleplay.

Believe me, that I fought desperately and often angrily to fend of prejudice, clashes and accusations in the year after the fusion in my former community, against "the French who always are dragging agro onto others" and other damned generalizations, often on the verge of frustration and the urge to leave, or at least bursting in tears not seldom. I did my best to help with translation and still do, and am still struggling to make us all one community, without destroying our traditions. Please understand that this is hard work, and will only succeed it we all work together.

I see the wish of members of the anglophone community, the largest of our three descendencies, to maintain their common gameplay, and roleplay, to be able to cooperate as homins inside the game, not only as RL persons behind the computer. I fail to see that dishonorable, spoiled. or too far fetched a wish. Much less I consider it immature or wanting to have everything . I know that justice and honor are values of my chosen homeland, not yours, but I think it could not harm to mind them, though.

I am not sure about the idea we are discussing, but I think that guilds homing homins of different alignments is not such a bad idea and will not disrupt the game. Thanks for listening.