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not in game they don't, like I said, how would anyone know. think there may have been a couple posts like that on the forum, but again extreme minority.

i can not believe that ryzom could stay alive without F2P's
( let imagine that only P2P who are playing this game :
1 - it would be a very small comunity
2 - ryzom would lose loads of skilled F2P's--> they used to help new players all different ways )
3 - if ryzom would face an economic trouble in the futur so surely it would be the end of this lovely game cause many mastered players will leave ( as we saw after the first announcement many subb players decided to leave yak......)
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do not consider F2P's as Profitless community

I think F2P's are good people kinda like the guy that lives in the bedroom section of Super Wal-mart and lives off the free samples for nourishment and gets plenty of rest. True neither are hurting anybody but at the same time neither are helping pay for the resources that keep the establiment running and are only there getting the party crunk.
I respect all homins who play the game but I think it's a bit rude to ask for more when you are already provided unlimited "free samples".

pfft they are going to wipe our levels which means along time of hard working would gone (years for some old F2P's) :(
as i said basic pack doesn't push us to play again
so as a homins we want a really rewards or ...
we used to help ppl from different races and guildes and now they are subb players "grace of us" ( i do not want to say that but i have to ..)

But to ask for a reward for f2p is like asking to win the lottery without even purchasing a ticket tbh. I'm not trying to sound mean, I'm just keeping it real.

we arent asking for rewards without a reason !!!!!!
they are going to wipe years of HARD WORKING to level up our levels
please try to understand our feelings

lottery? dude cmon, at most, subs are only getting what they paid for already, and F2Pers helped them get that, we're only asking for the same support we gave you.

Exactly , they have paid for it .

Yes , the game benefits from f2p players in the form of a more visible population and the reward you get in return for that is to play without cost (albeit with limited skills) if you don't want to subscribe . I personally think that is more than enough support really .
Asking for even more on top of that just feels wrong to me . You all get a chance of getting a basic pack by taking part in the events they have planned , which is also a form of reward as well .
Granted , the events help , but it isn't something they had to do.

Poeple saying " but i spent years on this free character , give me more " annoy me in a way . Surely if you have played for free for that long , its time you repayed that by supporting the company financially .
I know some won't like reading that and say how they have helped do this and the other ingame on a free account , well , " Paying " customers have done the same.

no, i mean we helped the subs get their levels back...

anyway, we'll see after this weekend's events are over if they are really going to give everyone who participates a basic pack or just those that "win"--how someone can "win" at a TP tour is beyond me.

imo that will be a pivotal moment for F2P players in Ryzom...

I hear alot of big numbers here and even the word 'years', f2p in the form it is now has only been possible for 1year and 5months (6months) really.

From patchnotes: http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=35224
 

oh come on guys - 10K deppers and saving appearance and name that's the reward you talking about ?? - i do not care if i have basic pack or not

^this

Most paid players come back from time to time and many have never left at all. I usually stay subbed so that I can come back when I have the time.

Again, not trying to sound mean but I just really do not understand the logic of using human resources for this when there are soooo many f2p accounts that are not even being used.
Most people who have played the game both subbed and F2P worked very hard for what they have accomplished, I'll give you that. But you took the car for a test drive and now you have to pay if you wanna take her home.

Well a lot of ppl are still concerned about even being able to keep their identities so thats a valid point.

And, I think we're all missing the point that many of us are willing to pay for the retention of levels once (as long as we don't get locked into an agreement).

This isn't about a handout, we're willing to pay.

The problem remains the time it takes to implement these options before the 29th, so maybe both P2P and F2P should be trying to support the devs as best we can, so that they can help work towards reducing the player loss as much as possible.

Unfortunately I think there will be some, but not as much as previously expected.

edit: actually we only got to drive the compacts, as we don't get meks, just mounts

Player loss really?
Guild I'm in probably doubled in size since the announcement because old players returning and most of those returning do plan to play again, then there are some f2p players in the guild that already signed up and or are planning to in the next week.
All I would say atm it looks like ryzom is growing quite rapid, and counting that 2 other servers will be added, atys will be quite full a busy place the first months probably.
Not saving f2p levels might even help because you won't see 6 lvl 125 alts running around behind some guys to go on solo boss kills, now these ppl will need to retrain their alts and team with others to take on bosses atleast for some time. (I know some ppl have subbed alts aswell but well they payed for em, can't do anything about those and not sure we even should)

Ok I have read most of this and now that I have stopped laughing too hard to type I will generously donate my valuable time to putting your concerns to rest.
It did for many years.
replace "years" with "months" and "HARD WORKING" with "FREELOADING" and this statement becomes factual.
I Have made no secret that this is my position.
Yes, even in Uni.
Your help was inconsequential. For years the community has been filled with contributing (paying) players who offer actual help, like mats or equipment higher than q130, treks that dont end abruptly or cost heavily in DP, heals that can give back what they soak up in a boss team. In most cases accepting your help is just to make you feel warm and fuzzy and useful. Charity, just like the rest of your Ryzom experience.

Someone used the term "extreme minority" in another argument. It applies here. Sorry but the rest of your post was just TOO LONG to bother reading. Im sure you have other invalid points and I apologise for not having the time to address them all.

The first part is incorrect. Running and supporting multiple servers is a financial burden in a game with a dwindling subscriber population. I have seen this happen in other MMO's and I had heard from Dev's of the financial concerns long before the decision to merge was made.
The second part is correct :) *golfclap* well done. I was pleasantly surprised.
Come with me on a trek through HH or Wastelands, paying Pei-Ruz a visit, come dig with me, really join me in any of my normal day to day gaming here in Ryzom or meet me in the Matis Arena, and you will very quickly see the difference. If all you do is stand around talking I can understand how you could be confused, although im not sure what you want your levels for...
This whole thread is about asking for something. You are asking for the Devs to spend resources to transfer your free characters to the new server. The vast majority here want to keep things as they were as you can plainly see from other threads, but it just aint going to happen.
What if I love Lamborghinis and I can not pay? You cannot have taken years as Subox has proven. If you have been playing for free for months then you obviously have access to a computer and an internet connection. Assuming they are not borrowed or stolen, cough up the subscription fee. Its perfectly reasonable.
Theres plenty more where you came from. Lots of people willing to take something for nothing. You are given the opportunity to play for free. You have payed for nothing and are entitled to nothing.

Now that all of your arguments have been nullified with logic (and I will admit a healthy dose of sarcasm but honestly some of your points were a joke and didnt deserve 100% serious responses)
There is no need for this to continue.

/Beefed. You can thank me later.