I think you do not address the real problem. And such your idea of a "solution" will not work out. If you believe that players can solve things amongst themselves and that you members of the Ryzom-team (especially the Event-team) can "stay out" of the current conflict, then you are deceiving yourselves.
Do not think you can "avoid" conflicts - because you are already part of it. You have already added to the conflict by letting things happen and by what you have said and done. Your silence already had and still has just as much impact and consequence as your actions do. It's already too late to refuse taking responsibility for that. If more and more players should leave the game, you will be co-responsible.
Lately there is a rather large group of players of some guilds on Atys who have banded together and deliberately try to force other players to change their playing-styles. It is not about roleplaying, it is not IC. It is about dominating and even about griefing other players which seems to give these aggressive players some personal satisfaction. The mocking way they even talk OOC about this strongly indicates so.
Newcomers to Ryzom were shocked when their characters were not resurrected but offended instead for reasons they could not possibly understand. We all know that Ryzom needs new users to stay alive.
Also players who know nothing about roleplaying at all have been insulted. It is most confusing for them. They just want to have fun by playing a nice MMORPG in their free time after a hard day's work - and they are paying money for that. Money that Ryzom dearly needs. Nobody can be forced to play in a different style - a style that they do not enjoy, and might not even be able to understand. Instead these players will feel griefed and leave.
There is no war going on on Atys; no forum-thread and not even the lore can explain why total strangers are being called "enemies" by these aggressive players and guilds. Many do not view it as "roleplaying" to be insulted by guilds of their own nation and faction for hunting together with so-called alleged "enemies", when there has never been any roleplay-reason for their own characters to see others as enemies at all.
Hunting together peacefully is definitely not OOC by the way. Roleplay-wise our characters have lived for 8 years in peace in Exile together and could have very well become closer there. And many players already know that on Leanon no war between Fyros and Matis had happened. So it is perfectly logical roleplay for Leanon-players to be friendly with each other; it's not OOC at all. Still this repressive group of players claims it to be "bad" or even "wrong" roleplaying. So you can clearly see that this is just a whitewash to justify their striving for domination over others. In reality they themselves do not act because of roleplaying-reasons at all.
At least some players should know about the Universal Declaration of Homin Rights: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/16969/17 #17 While Marauders might ignore that, no other homin should claim "roleplaying" as a reason to not resurrect others. And they should never attempt to force others to follow their example, which sadly they do. Homins who have political functions should even be forced to step down from their political seats when being caught breaching this declaration/charta as far as roleplaying-logic dictates. They same might go for not accepting existing peace treaties.
Now you are talking about "tolerance"? Are you saying that these people causing other players to leave the game and are abusing "roleplaying" as an excuse to dominate other players should be "tolerated"? Are you saying that newcomers who did not have the time yet to get accquainted with Ryzom-RP and also OOC-players have to "tolerate" having their gaming-fun being reduced for reasons that do not apply to themselves in their eyes?
You suggest to talk to each other. We players already did that. We pleaded for more tolerance towards other players and gaming-styles ingame and outgame. But these aggressive players refuse to be considerate. They still try to force their playing-styles on others, they still do not respect other players, they still use unfair means to achieve their goal to dominate other players, OOC and yes, also IC.
It's true that also during roleplaying-events some players have been - and still are - trying exactly the same: to dominate other players. They try to impose their own roleplaying-style, their interpretation of the Lore and also their specific server-past on others. They try to make their server-past into the new reality for everyone in the current game - unfortunately by using all means possible, even unfair ones.
They try to win RP-arguments by abusing OOC-tricks that show disrespect towards other players. They try to exclude players of different language-groups ("dialects") than their own by only talking with their own language-group of other Nations about national political matters. They abuse the use of their own languages and lack of translations to take advantage of others, like at votings of Assemblies. They repeat what happened on their own server as the one and only "valid" past again and again, ignoring all objections.
All of this has happened in the presence of members of your Event-Team, who were letting these players do what they wanted unopposed, which encouraged them to continue in their ways. And sometimes you have even supported them with what you said. Sadly up until now Event-Team-Members only very rarely reminded these players to be more considerate, like to take different server-histories into consideration.
We players are at a loss, because as players we don't have the means and competences to force these repressing players to be more considerate in any ways. You have both, means and comptetence. These players do not listen to us, but they listen to you. So we need you. We need you to do your job in your RP-roles as rulers and officials of our Nations. And we need you to do your job as game-masters of sorts, as vigilantes who should preserve order and shall help with preventing players being griefed out of the game.
Do not refuse to make use of the responsibility you were given. Do not abuse your positions by passively letting players dominate others in your presence, which has already been seen as an approval. If you want to claim now that your inactivity was not meant to be seen as acceptance - then how naïve can you be? How would you interpret things if your boss at work said nothing when your co-workers started to mob/bully you in his presence? Try to imagine that. Don't play innocent now, don't feign ignorance, don't try to "stay out" of your very own business.
You have powers, you have responsibility. Be aware of that. And act responsible-minded.
Do not think you can "avoid" conflicts - because you are already part of it. You have already added to the conflict by letting things happen and by what you have said and done. Your silence already had and still has just as much impact and consequence as your actions do. It's already too late to refuse taking responsibility for that. If more and more players should leave the game, you will be co-responsible.
Lately there is a rather large group of players of some guilds on Atys who have banded together and deliberately try to force other players to change their playing-styles. It is not about roleplaying, it is not IC. It is about dominating and even about griefing other players which seems to give these aggressive players some personal satisfaction. The mocking way they even talk OOC about this strongly indicates so.
Newcomers to Ryzom were shocked when their characters were not resurrected but offended instead for reasons they could not possibly understand. We all know that Ryzom needs new users to stay alive.
Also players who know nothing about roleplaying at all have been insulted. It is most confusing for them. They just want to have fun by playing a nice MMORPG in their free time after a hard day's work - and they are paying money for that. Money that Ryzom dearly needs. Nobody can be forced to play in a different style - a style that they do not enjoy, and might not even be able to understand. Instead these players will feel griefed and leave.
There is no war going on on Atys; no forum-thread and not even the lore can explain why total strangers are being called "enemies" by these aggressive players and guilds. Many do not view it as "roleplaying" to be insulted by guilds of their own nation and faction for hunting together with so-called alleged "enemies", when there has never been any roleplay-reason for their own characters to see others as enemies at all.
Hunting together peacefully is definitely not OOC by the way. Roleplay-wise our characters have lived for 8 years in peace in Exile together and could have very well become closer there. And many players already know that on Leanon no war between Fyros and Matis had happened. So it is perfectly logical roleplay for Leanon-players to be friendly with each other; it's not OOC at all. Still this repressive group of players claims it to be "bad" or even "wrong" roleplaying. So you can clearly see that this is just a whitewash to justify their striving for domination over others. In reality they themselves do not act because of roleplaying-reasons at all.
At least some players should know about the Universal Declaration of Homin Rights: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/16969/17 #17 While Marauders might ignore that, no other homin should claim "roleplaying" as a reason to not resurrect others. And they should never attempt to force others to follow their example, which sadly they do. Homins who have political functions should even be forced to step down from their political seats when being caught breaching this declaration/charta as far as roleplaying-logic dictates. They same might go for not accepting existing peace treaties.
Now you are talking about "tolerance"? Are you saying that these people causing other players to leave the game and are abusing "roleplaying" as an excuse to dominate other players should be "tolerated"? Are you saying that newcomers who did not have the time yet to get accquainted with Ryzom-RP and also OOC-players have to "tolerate" having their gaming-fun being reduced for reasons that do not apply to themselves in their eyes?
You suggest to talk to each other. We players already did that. We pleaded for more tolerance towards other players and gaming-styles ingame and outgame. But these aggressive players refuse to be considerate. They still try to force their playing-styles on others, they still do not respect other players, they still use unfair means to achieve their goal to dominate other players, OOC and yes, also IC.
It's true that also during roleplaying-events some players have been - and still are - trying exactly the same: to dominate other players. They try to impose their own roleplaying-style, their interpretation of the Lore and also their specific server-past on others. They try to make their server-past into the new reality for everyone in the current game - unfortunately by using all means possible, even unfair ones.
They try to win RP-arguments by abusing OOC-tricks that show disrespect towards other players. They try to exclude players of different language-groups ("dialects") than their own by only talking with their own language-group of other Nations about national political matters. They abuse the use of their own languages and lack of translations to take advantage of others, like at votings of Assemblies. They repeat what happened on their own server as the one and only "valid" past again and again, ignoring all objections.
All of this has happened in the presence of members of your Event-Team, who were letting these players do what they wanted unopposed, which encouraged them to continue in their ways. And sometimes you have even supported them with what you said. Sadly up until now Event-Team-Members only very rarely reminded these players to be more considerate, like to take different server-histories into consideration.
We players are at a loss, because as players we don't have the means and competences to force these repressing players to be more considerate in any ways. You have both, means and comptetence. These players do not listen to us, but they listen to you. So we need you. We need you to do your job in your RP-roles as rulers and officials of our Nations. And we need you to do your job as game-masters of sorts, as vigilantes who should preserve order and shall help with preventing players being griefed out of the game.
Do not refuse to make use of the responsibility you were given. Do not abuse your positions by passively letting players dominate others in your presence, which has already been seen as an approval. If you want to claim now that your inactivity was not meant to be seen as acceptance - then how naïve can you be? How would you interpret things if your boss at work said nothing when your co-workers started to mob/bully you in his presence? Try to imagine that. Don't play innocent now, don't feign ignorance, don't try to "stay out" of your very own business.
You have powers, you have responsibility. Be aware of that. And act responsible-minded.
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