Q : Is building the client and server still a pain in the ass or has it become easier ? I know this was a sticking point for some people a few years ago.
Especially running an operational ryzomcore server rather than the build itself.
Why not provide some basic primitives to have a working ryzomcore ? I'm thinking for example of the old racial start zone.
A : The client build is now done via a small script on Windows, the same script will be adapted to Linux.
As for the server, the build is also simple, but ... The server build is more complicated, especially since it requires private datas.
But ryzomcore provides a complete archive, turnkey to launch a core server.
Which in the vast majority of cases will suffice.

Q : Wasn't the rudimentary data available from Silan when the client/server became open source ? Is it still available ?
A : It is still available and ryzomcore is adding missing data continuously.

Currently all mobs and equipment items are usable, allowing you to create your own world using both World Editor and the Ring. Player actions and materials are not yet available and still in the works.

Agenda

• Database migration and webIg server change
• Feedbacks on the Patch: Kitinlair occupations, Boss refactoring, Marauder gameplay
• Recrutement: Event team, Support Team, Translation team

Je vais refaire un point sur la migration et le patch qu'il y a eu.
Nous avions prévu de migrer le très vieux serveur web qui contenait le webig et des outils de nevrax vers un nouveau serveur tout frais.
Afin de minimiser les problèmes, il était convenu de ne migrer que la base de données (étape 1), mettre à jour le serveur vers une version ubuntu encore en LTS (16.04) au minimum (etape 2).
Puis sur le serveur me.ryzom.com y faire une copie des apps et les tests en php 7 (etape 3).
Enfin quand tout serait ok, on basculerait app.ryzom.com sur me.ryzom.com (etape 4).
Puis finalement un nouveau serveur viendrai ajouter la réplication au cas où il soit nécessaire de basculer des services (etape 5).
Bon ... Tout ça c'était sans prévoir que le serveur web allait nous lâcher.
Ce qui nous a obligé à finalement faire les étapes 1 à 5 en 24h.
Donc, compte rendu des opérations :
Tous nos serveurs sont actuellement en Ubuntu 20.04.
Le vieux serveur web va nous quitter (mais personne ne va le pleurer ...).
Nous avons les principales applications qui fonctionnent sans erreurs majeures (pas mal de warning que nous corrigerons au fur et a mesure).
Mais globalement, c'est une très bonne chose de faite et il n'est plus prévu de grosses migrations.
Les prochaines mise à jour se feront pendant un redémarrage sur le serveur Atys afin de ne plus bloquer le jeu.
Donc pour la migration, nous sommes pas mal.
S'il y a des questions à ce sujet, n'hésitez pas.

Si pas d'autres questions on peut passer au patch.
Il reste pour le moment un souci à corriger concernant les métiers de la kinitière qui sont buggés.
Ce sera fait prochainement, mais nous ne savons pas s'il est necessaire de faire un patch + reboot du serveur ou pas.
On vous tiendra au courant.
Boss refactoring a été corrigé lors de son lancement et pour le moment tourne normalement.
Si tout se passe bien, au prochain redémarrage/patch nous appliquerons le système à tout Atys.

Si pas d'autres questions, openssl ?
Je sais que tout le monde attend ce sujet avec impatience.
Donc, pour faire simple, nos clients ne sont plus compatibles avec une modification des certificats de let's encrypt.
Qui reste l'une des autorités majeurs pour ce qui est de fournir des certificats ssl.
À comprendre : c'est grâce à eux qu'on sécurise nos sites en https.
Et du coup, les clients ne sont plus capables d'accéder aux sites https qui ont un certificat let's encrypt (ce qui est le cas pour nos serveurs).
il existe une configuration qui permet de conserver une compatibilité avec les clients utilisant openssl 1.0 (donc la vieille version).
C'est ce que nous avons fait en attendant de mettre à jour les clients.
Actuellement nous testons les clients Windows 64 bits et Linux 64 bitss avec openssl 3.0 et pas de soucis majeurs.
Nous appliquerons la même modification aux versions Steam et a Macos.
Si vous hébergez des appps webig qui ne sont plus accéssible depuis le jeu, vous pouvez venir me voir et je vous aiderai a configurer votre serveur pour activer la compatibilité (c'est une option certbot).
Mais nous pensons pouvoir fournir les nouvelles versions assez rapidement
Enfin, c'est encore en discussion mais nous nous demandons si nous allons continuer à maintenir des versions 32 bits sous linux (et Windows).
Il reste vraiment très très peu de monde sur des configuration 32 bits.

Agenda[list]

• Current projects
  • Pen-and-paper role-playing game in Ryzom universe
  • OP refactoring
• Recrutement: Event team, Support Team, Translation team

For some time we have been working on a role-playing game in the Ryzom universe. The goal is to be able to play outside the New Lands, either on the Old Lands, now or before the Swarmings, or in other more remote places. Places that will never be in the MMO, for example places where resurrection does not exist.
There is a playable first draft, and I need testers, initially one or two teams of four people. People to play and point out what works well and give suggestions for improvement. For the moment, the working version is in French, and my level in other languages means that I can only have people playing in French. But if a game master wants to get involved, we can also set up tests in other languages.

The outpost refactoring project is Dev's current #1 priority.
Now that GvE tests are finished, we are preparing the next tests on Atys, which will involve GvG. Like GvE tests, these ones will be performed on special outposts.
Ulukyn (Dev) will come to present this GvG part in detail during the next Ryzom Forge meeting on Monday, December 6th.

Support Team

The Support team continues its recruitment campaign for volunteers.
We need you, your availability, your technical and gameplay knowledges of the game but also your diplomacy, to expand our ranks and best meet the expectations of players.
To learn more, please consult this post: https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/22047/2 #2 .
To apply, contact Tamarea exclusively at tamarea@ryzom.com, and do not tell anyone about your application!

Event Team
We're looking for volunteers who want to help write event scripts, or who want to become actors by playing a character in the events we play.
Training is provided, and the entry into acting is done very gradually to give the recruit time to get used to it.
Join us to benefit from this unique experience!
To apply, contact Tamarea exclusively at tamarea@ryzom.com and do not tell anyone about your application!

Translation Team
We are looking for volunteers to translate in-game texts and official announcements into English, German, Spanish, Russian, French, as well as to proofread texts in these five languages.
To apply, contact Tamarea exclusively at tamarea@ryzom.com.

That was the last topic for today!
If you'd like to contact Drumel about tabletop roleplaying, you can do so on chat.ryzom, or reply to the meeting minutes on the forum when they're posted.
The next meeting will be held on Monday, December 6th!
The two main topics will be Bugs and testing, and Outpost redesign.

I have a hard time understanding the principle of taking people out of the MMO

That's the dumbest argument against community projects ever, and this sort of closed minded thinking is why Ryzom will never recover. Adding more target markets does not take away from your existing niche target market. Growing the community does not shrink it.

It would tho, any ryzom player playing another game is taken away from playing ryzom.

Magez

It would tho, any ryzom player playing another game is taken away from playing ryzom.

Look at the resurgence of CP2020 when Cyberpunk 2077 came out and you'll see how wrong that is. It's a little different there since CP2077 is not an MMO so many peopel will stop playing after beating it a few times, but my point that it's not a zero-sum equation remains.

but what i mean is time cannot be spend on both at the same time, spending those 1-2 hours on the board game are 1-2 hours that you are not present/active/engaged into ryzom

dev-time and resources spend there could have been spend on the main attraction

Regarding the board game itself, i understand the 'fun' but not the benefit of it, the splitting of players activity/time aside, dev-time and resources spend there could have been spend on the main attraction, i also fail to see how it will attract new players besides circles of friends that likely would have already mentioned ryzom if there was interest among them (i hope), in the case of marketing i have doubts and raise the question why marketing ryzom isn't done more in stead and in the case marketing ryzom is already exhausted i fail to see why the board game would then raise new players in its place.

The person behind this tabletop rpg project is already active in the Lore Team. He is not a developer of the game. So his time wouldn't have been spent on development. Working on a tabletop rpg is a good continuation of the lorist work: it will use the existing lore and extend it.
It is NOT a marketing project too, it's a tabletop rpg that a passionate is making and wants to share it with the community.