IDEAS FOR RYZOM

So why doesn't he come back and help get it done the right way Sub? Ryzom Forge would welcome his help. He can come fix stuff, as well as help develope things.

Next, From last Ryzom Forge meeting, i got the feeling one priority was to make NEL plugins for free software like Blender so others can contribute graphics to Ryzom rather than use 3DMax which is very expensive.

So... if anyone can help in that department, then we can add content like new armor and so on. Otherwise, why even suggest new things we want until the basics are accomplished?
That is where help is needed! If we can't get that done, then it seems apparently nothing will get added unless you have 3DMax.
Who can help?

not everyone has the time to help or has to be happy how game is run now and forge and such

mes enfants ont connu ryzom depuis sa sortir avec ces " terribles " tenues que peuvent porter les homines.... grâce peut être à ryzom ce sont aujourd'hui deux adultes épanouis et absolument pas traumatisé.

je leur ai montré ce post hier .... ils ont éclaté de rire :P

si vous êtes traumatisé par un bout de fesse mettez une jupe et ne vous prenez donc pas la tète pour ça

et les dev ont autre chose à faire que de retravailler sur des tenues qui n'ont jamais choqué personne ....

Forcément, Kiwa et les popotins.. *se sauve* :D

I want to add a few comments.
1. This is the idea forum. It is absolutely appopriate to suggest whatever idea. Determining the priority of its realization, even if approved, remains with the devs, respectively the developing and designing body formed by Winchgate and Ryzom Forge.
2. Design and creation of new armor is part of the second stage of the original Ryzom Forge roadmap. The first step, creation of objects for apartments, nation and city banners etc., has been successfully accomplished. While to my impression, the emphasis in RF now is bit more on accomplishing tools for a wider base of developers, and new goals evolved such as the "ring 2.0" pocket worlds, I think that this plan has not been abandoned. Therefore armor design proposals are absolutely appropriate.
3. There is a proverb in German that one cannot argue about matters of taste ("über Geschmack kann man nicht streiten"). But even if some are in disagreement about inappropriateness of certain armor parts, they should at least respect that others feel their pleasure and their choices infringed by a one-sided style of certain female armors. The proposal, btw., was to extend the choices, not to ban certain armor skins.

It should be obvious that the proposal is not of highest priority. Yet we have also campaigned e.g. for the introduction of hairdressers and tatooist in the marauder camp though this concerned clearly a minority of the playerhood. For me was important when supporting these proposals that the status quo without this option reduced fun and pleasure for the players concerned.

In fact, I consider the situation a gender discrimination of both females, being more or less urgeed to wear clothing with the emphasis on sex appeal, and males being denied the same - or, under different consideration, granting males the fun of liberal sight of the features of the opposite sex while denying it to females. For females, it is to some extent humiliating not to be taken serious and allowed to wear practical stuff for the tasks to fulfill. I doubt, e.g. that the view of mammal's reproductive features infight will overly impress or divert aggressive amphibians, reptiles, insects, or birds.

Of course, minors will not be traumatized by the armors criticized. I fail to see that they would even by more liberal or no clothing unless having been traumatized and crippled before by inappropriate prudish and cruel education. And, as I mentioned before, Ryzom is neither the only nor the worst game under these considerations. Yet. one of the great features of Ryzom is the variability and the large number of choices to adapt the appearance of the player characters. And I understand the proposal as a step of extending and enriching these possibilities.

Therefore I do not fully understand the polemics. In the course of development of RF there will be opportunities to design and create new armors, and such is already underway. Of course, no important developments should or will be delayed therefrom. Those who e.g. are now designing the new armor for lady Ailan,will most probably not be immediately stopping to think about armor design after accomplishing that task.

Ca pourrait être sympa d'ajouter 'option "choisir l'apparence" d'une pièce d'armure avec les modèles déjà dispo (légère, moyenne ou lourde) pour que les avatar féminin puissent porter des skin masculin (et vice versa) parce que certain skin de tenue féminine sont assez moyen visuellement, et (ce n'est pas une remarque quand à la "lubricité" de certaine tenue, fille irl, ma fyros est souvent en moyenne matis; et c'est pas pour lui reluquer les fesses juste que je trouve le skin joli.) ne serait-ce que pour harmoniser les uniformes de guilde ou tout simplement ajouter un plus grand choix d'apparence quand certain skin ne nous plaisent pas.

(perso, j'adorerai lui faire porter la légère matis au masculin parce que je trouve que la version féminine de cette tenue est la plus moche du jeu; il y a que les bottes et la jupe mage qui sont belles)

Yes please. I hate the look of matis MA pants, or I will always be forced to wear LA caster pants then :)

Males should be forced to wear those pants, or go naked, the look and feel is nealy identical :P
(beginning to think like a lost girl ^^, bad luck for you males :P)

Just my two cents worth here. As an MA crafter and wearer and, perhaps more to the point, an OUTFIT crafter and wearer, I have to agree with many of the above comments I (forget who argued for what). It all boils down to choice; more of it. I don't thing many people are seriously offended by how a cartoon is dressed. In the past there have been many discussions about, say Wonderwoman, Jessica Rabbit or Xena, and none of the arguments have affected the popularity or dress style of either. The argument then, as now to the Mary Whitehouses of this world is, if you don't like it don't look. Sure it may originate in a male dominated design world, some time way back when even I was a kid, in order to titilate a predominantly male-dominated audience, a large number of which then, as now, were somewhat underage. i think arguments about choice, however are equally as valid as those about decency, and that it is important to remember when upholding one person's choice, liberty or free speech that you are not restricting someone else's.

Anyway, I'm all for MORE armour choices, of all types, and as stated above, the fyros HA top concerns me much more than MA choices which in my experience as a Master MA crafter with a once-full order book, that MA is more often than not worn for effect than effectiveness. But as also stated, this is hardly a priority. I would much rather see more Lands added, for instance, for us all to explore, with new MoBs and races etc than argue over the niceties of our varied and wonderful collective dress-sense. /Ffi