Ryzom think about us Please - English

#29 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

probably not a good idea to ever delete data that can be used later...

offline storage really is cheap these days, so no reason to destroy player data or even server config data.

while server and network upkeep does constitute a fair amount of operation cost, I still think the primary reason for the merge is a more populated game world, which isn't such a bad thing--yet another thing F2Pers provide.

Also, the whole impression of F2P players in some way damaging the game is lost on me. I've played on both Ari and Aniro, (recently visited Leanon) and you really can't tell the difference between P2P and F2P--I hope that continues.

edit: and even at 9/10, thats still 500,000usd per month!! We should be very comfortable in our new home once we get through this. Not to mention the possibility of expanding at a later time. (another reason to NOT delete anything)

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#30 Added by Firstdo 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Reading this is honestly hilarious, where do you get the idea that Ryzom is some huge money maker? You can see a huge difference betweenf f2p and p2p players, f2p players generally dont last... how long have you been around?

#31 Added by Subox 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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you didn't read it did you?
I said 9/10 probably current f2p accounts; still loads of those 1/10 are old p2p and old f2p accounts (the 30days type and silan type)

no idea how many are still activly subbed but I can hardly believe it's anywhere close to the 50k you think it is, probably 1/10 of 50k or even way less then that maybe somewhere in the region of 1k-5k active subs maybe but that's a total guess from me

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#32 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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long enough to know that people with the attitude you exhibit here are in the extreme minority in this community...

edit: 1/10 is 500k usd, 50k players--wonder how much it has fluctuated recently... also i think the trial was 20 days... only 5000 active players is rather sparse though--yet another reason to treat the F2Pers (which could possibly become P2Pers) well

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#33 Added by Firstdo 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Not really, so many players are against f2p hear people say things like "waste of bandwidth" ect.

#34 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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not in game they don't, like I said, how would anyone know. think there may have been a couple posts like that on the forum, but again extreme minority.

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#35 Added by Winnerx 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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i can not believe that ryzom could stay alive without F2P's
( let imagine that only P2P who are playing this game :
1 - it would be a very small comunity
2 - ryzom would lose loads of skilled F2P's--> they used to help new players all different ways )
3 - if ryzom would face an economic trouble in the futur so surely it would be the end of this lovely game cause many mastered players will leave ( as we saw after the first announcement many subb players decided to leave yak......)
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do not consider F2P's as Profitless community

#36 Added by Bones 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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I think F2P's are good people kinda like the guy that lives in the bedroom section of Super Wal-mart and lives off the free samples for nourishment and gets plenty of rest. True neither are hurting anybody but at the same time neither are helping pay for the resources that keep the establiment running and are only there getting the party crunk.
I respect all homins who play the game but I think it's a bit rude to ask for more when you are already provided unlimited "free samples".

#37 Added by Winnerx 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Bones

think it's a bit rude to ask for more.

pfft they are going to wipe our levels which means along time of hard working would gone (years for some old F2P's) :(
as i said basic pack doesn't push us to play again
so as a homins we want a really rewards or ...
we used to help ppl from different races and guildes and now they are subb players "grace of us" ( i do not want to say that but i have to ..)

#38 Added by Bones 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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But to ask for a reward for f2p is like asking to win the lottery without even purchasing a ticket tbh. I'm not trying to sound mean, I'm just keeping it real.

#39 Added by Winnerx 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Bones

But to ask for a reward for f2p is like asking to win the lottery without even purchasing a ticket tbh. I'm not trying to sound mean, I'm just keeping it real.

we arent asking for rewards without a reason !!!!!!
they are going to wipe years of HARD WORKING to level up our levels
please try to understand our feelings

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#40 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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lottery? dude cmon, at most, subs are only getting what they paid for already, and F2Pers helped them get that, we're only asking for the same support we gave you.

#41 Added by Baldanah 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Hadrisian

lottery? dude cmon, at most, subs are only getting what they paid for already, and F2Pers helped them get that, we're only asking for the same support we gave you.

Exactly , they have paid for it .

Yes , the game benefits from f2p players in the form of a more visible population and the reward you get in return for that is to play without cost (albeit with limited skills) if you don't want to subscribe . I personally think that is more than enough support really .
Asking for even more on top of that just feels wrong to me . You all get a chance of getting a basic pack by taking part in the events they have planned , which is also a form of reward as well .
Granted , the events help , but it isn't something they had to do.

Poeple saying " but i spent years on this free character , give me more " annoy me in a way . Surely if you have played for free for that long , its time you repayed that by supporting the company financially .
I know some won't like reading that and say how they have helped do this and the other ingame on a free account , well , " Paying " customers have done the same.

#42 Added by Hadrisian 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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no, i mean we helped the subs get their levels back...

anyway, we'll see after this weekend's events are over if they are really going to give everyone who participates a basic pack or just those that "win"--how someone can "win" at a TP tour is beyond me.

imo that will be a pivotal moment for F2P players in Ryzom...

#43 Added by Subox 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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I hear alot of big numbers here and even the word 'years', f2p in the form it is now has only been possible for 1year and 5months (6months) really.

From patchnotes: http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=35224

Patch 1.11.0 - Ryzom is now Free To Play and new boss!On Wednesday, March 9 between 09:00 and 11:00 GMT, the servers will be brought down for the implementation of patch 1.11.0.

This patch brings the following:

New Free Trial System

We are pleased to announce that from now on, players that create a new account can play Ryzom without time or place limits. Instead, free trial accounts are now limited to a maximum level of 125 in all different skills, enabling everyone to sample all aspects of Ryzom and to discover what makes this MMO unique. When you reach level 125 in a skill you can still continue playing, but you will gain no more experience points. The second limitation is storage: you cannot own any mektoub packers, use the inventory of your apartment or take any items from a guild hall.

Despite the freedom of this new system, we would like to remind you that Ryzom can only live on through your paid subscriptions. Thank you for the confidence you have in us. ...

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