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#1 Eingetragen von Tamarea vor 5 Jahren  

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Missions et renommée : quid des futurs et futurs-ex maraudeurs ?

Chers joueurs,

Nous allons très bientôt équilibrer les missions classiques en réduisant la perte de renommée par mission pour les non maraudeurs, comme expliqué ici.
En effet, le montant de la perte de renommée sera réduit à 0.3% de la renommée acquise pour les non Maraudeurs, et à 3% pour les Maraudeurs.

Cependant, ce correctif ne prendra pas en compte les cas suivants :

• Un futur maraudeur souhaitant perdre de la renommée de nation et de faction afin de pouvoir passer le rite maraudeur ;
• Un maraudeur souhaitant quitter sa faction, et donc gagner de la renommée de nation et de faction.

Nous cherchons actuellement des idées permettant de prendre en compte les deux cas ci-dessus. Si vous avez des suggestions à proposer, alors veuillez nous en faire part en réponse à ce fil de discussion.

Veuillez noter que tout message hors sujet sera modéré afin que la discussion reste constructive.

Zuletzt geändert von Tamarea (vor 5 Jahren)

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#2 Eingetragen von Namcha vor 5 Jahren  

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( I think there is a mistake above : non-marauders may loose 0.3% fame max per mission, while marauders may loose 3% max per mission. The goal of marauders is to loose fame ).

(I think also anyone can win 3% fame per mission. Including marauders when they will have mission that give mara fame (to go above 50% ))

#3 Eingetragen von Namcha vor 5 Jahren  

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Tamarea

• A marauder wishing to leave his faction, and thus gain nation and faction fame.

I did some test on wandering NPC. Those who are outside cities and tribes.

They may be linked with a tribe or the local governement.
In the last case they ask you to be above zero.

BUT, I met also a fyros scout in jungle Purity Haven (Xarius Zessen). She didn't ask to be above zero fame to help her. I was able to win little fyros fame.

=> it seems that when a NPC is outside his country, he doesn't check fame.

Later, I went in Frahar Tower, I met a fyros patroller (Cekos Lyseus). The window say she did not ask any fame too. I did a green mission and get the max (18000pt) fyros fame.

=> patrollers may be special. They are moving a lot, hard to find.

conclusion : I think the solution for recovering nation fame is already in the game ! just we don't know the missions.

To recover K/K fame, I think it would demand to help certain tribes which are positively seens by power. For example helping black circle to get kara fame. But we need to check the requirement.

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#4 Eingetragen von Ulukyn vor 5 Jahren  

#5 Eingetragen von Namcha vor 5 Jahren  

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I see, so he needs to meet kind of a mara recruiter, then he will have something that removes the loss cap of 1800pt

After, he would need to help some of the bellicose tribes (which will became mara btw)

But those one are not easy to approach (region level + hostility). However it may depend your race.

Same as for winning fame, one should not forget about finding wandering NPCs, instead of heading to tribe's camp.

For example in outlaw canyon I was able to met a scout (Hon Di-Shuan) "friend of the lawless" that allow me to win the maximum fame with lawless (18000) without having already good reputation with them, so a way to get more missions later.

However, we need to decide at which level a player should be able to do this ?

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#6 Eingetragen von Moniq vor 5 Jahren  

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Tamarea

the amount of the loss of fame will be reduced to 3% of the acquired fame for non-marauders, and to 0.3% for Marauders.

Uh, yes, it is opposite, 3% for Marauders and 0.3% for others. My bad proofreading, sorry.

Namcha

it seems that when a NPC is outside his country, he doesn't check fame.

Scouts, Patrollers and Jorneymen should not have any fame requirements. It is a way how to gain fame when your actual fame is terrible.

Ulukyn

A marauder can leave the faction and start to win same fame than non marauders. No any problem with that.

Yes, but with fames all close to -100 it will make your life pretty complicated.

#7 Eingetragen von Moniq vor 5 Jahren  

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My original idea was to create a small mission where you can declare/revoke enmity to nations or factions (by getting/removing special invisible item in bag to identify this fact, invisible like occupation "badge items" are). After some thinking I realize we alredy have this by the NPC where you can revoke your citizenship/allegiance.

We can use this way to get/remove that invisible item (that indentifies you wish to loose fame) and we should finally fix the fact you can do this action again and again to loose your fame cheaply.

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#8 Eingetragen von Revvy vor 5 Jahren  

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Direct attacks will not be tolerated, this topic is a sharing of ideas, not a settling of scores

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Same motive, same post again.

The attack is in your mind CSR(?) Tykus, you should carry on and check the rest of the forum instead of creating by yourself meaningless pseudo-attack.

Lorist and Dev discuss here something that is already settled since 2 years (to be fair 1,5 year).
While we wonder the seriousness of this, a reminder is needed.

I invite you(them) to check the pad which i shall remind you all, was the work of numerous Marauder's that are long time gone now, due to the abandon of the faction and promise that never came.
Its just respect to use their work at least.

This: https://cloud.ryzom.com/f/472
and this: https://cloud.ryzom.com/f/16255
and also this: https://board.ryzom.com/?controller=BoardViewController&actio n=show&project_id=87
and also also this: https://board.ryzom.com/?controller=BoardViewController&actio n=show&project_id=39

This is my idea, and i decide to share it here, thank to respect this alike to respect the work of ancient players.

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#9 Eingetragen von Nitteog vor 5 Jahren  

#10 Eingetragen von Moniq vor 5 Jahren  

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That is pointless while others including me can't access those documents.

#11 Eingetragen von Revvy vor 5 Jahren  

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Moniq

That is pointless while others including me can't access those documents.

These links are not for you Moniq, and was a direct answer to the OP :)

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#12 Eingetragen von Moniq vor 5 Jahren  

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While no one can read it and while I see nothing realted to the topic, I see no reason why you not share your links with whoever in a private message. No idea what you mean by "OP".

This thread is asking players about their ideas and opinions about the current fame loss adjustment. Please respect that.

#13 Eingetragen von Agan vor 5 Jahren  

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Why the heck this post is open for all as this post must be only Matter for Marauders as we dont have any opnion in for other faction why others can try to show there great opnions in ours? @Moniq are y a Marauder if not keep shut up pls i see y try to put your nose in all posts some good way but and some just try to show off how much you know about Atys, to much crap from many of you who are not even active but yes have a big mouth with big opnions, shhhhhhhhhhh

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#14 Eingetragen von Gidget vor 5 Jahren  

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Moniq

No idea what you mean by "OP".

OP... Original Poster... Tamarea... NOT you!

@Agan - I know that this may be a foreign concept to you, but some folks care about game balance even for factions that are not their own. Maybe it's altruism, maybe they have a secret mara alt. In any event, there is plenty of reason to have this conversation in the open.

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#15 Eingetragen von Naveruss vor 5 Jahren  

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Agan

Why the heck this post is open for all as this post must be only Matter for Marauders as we dont have any opnion in for other faction why others can try to show there great opnions in ours? @Moniq are y a Marauder if not keep shut up pls i see y try to put your nose in all posts some good way but and some just try to show off how much you know about Atys, to much crap from many of you who are not even active but yes have a big mouth with big opnions, shhhhhhhhhhh

It's a bit hypocritical to cry when mara are exclude from event, then cry when people talk about mara evolution and project and ask to exclude them from debate.And this topic do not only matter for marauders, it's about the game, so everybody is concern.And, please, stay polite.

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