IDEEN FÜR RYZOM

After this morning hot disscusion about kittin patrols on Prime Root i had and good idea.Why all prime root regions dont make pvp active like Lands of Umbra. Its will be just fair because on Prime roots can harvesting supreme materials and its will make supreme materal harvesting more challange then its now with Kittin patrols.

Well, it would made the supreme mats almost impossible to get for everyone excepted the most powerful faction, which will be even more powerful. Hence I think your suggestion is neither a "good idea" nor "fair".

If there where a bigger population on Atys, you would have a point Markanjio, but at the moment a solo player can grab some sup at magic spot easy, and its a very tiny place to controle in front of the lvl 250 primes, and its a short window of time ( season change ) in front of the much more "random" timer of the sups in region.
And you know, the "powerful faction" have there GH full of sup forage MP, they no more wake up at night to gather more.

The main problem I see is that its alwready hard for a new player to level to 250 forage prime, if there were no place to xp out of the people who like to kill xpers for fun, the people who are now 250 would have an unfair avantage.

May be make the waistland full PVP and keep the underspring non-pvp, should be a good middle solution.

Making any further regions PvP would be a stupid idea. Existing PvP opportunities, be it usage of regions, arenas, Op Wars, or duels, tournaments and other user generated PvP events. are sadly lacking due to slacking PvP players. I even succeeded to shamelessly steal some sup from SN unmolestedly recently :).

So it would be ridiculous to give PvPers more regions as long as they are unable to use existing PvP opportunities. It would even harm real and honorable PvP between dedicated PvP players degrading them to a poor substitute of KP. They could only do worse compared to those awesome patrollers, and, being no NPCs, would be bored or easily fall victim of buddy favoring and corruption. Beneath that, KP never sleeps, PvPers do ;).

I lived through the times after merge when KP was not present for more than a year and hated it. Small players of large guilds camped every interesting sup spot and spammed trackings. Once they succeeded, they called their guild and emptied the spot. Even if you were there in time, your chance to get even a single mat was close to zero. Since KP returned, low level campers are hard to maintain in 250 PR and Ichor (where KP are bit too many, but that is another discussion).

In the first 5 weeks following return of KP I pulled more sup than I had done in the 16 months before after the merge. Often, it was only 5 to 15 mats, and not seldom, having encountered a full spot, I had to run after 10 or 15 or even less mats with KP on my butt. I love it.

More PvP regions? Maybe. Let us work on new region project of Ryzom Forge. Among the new regions, there should be at least one full PvP region, fitting the situation in the Ancient Lands. If enough people engage in level design, new PvP challenge missions may be coded and released, allowing to win NPC armor in PvP challenges. I would not participate, but love if it could be implemented.

Stealing PvE players their regions would be a detrimental move, leading to exodus of even more players.

Why not put something in Nexus worth fighting for? It is a PvP zone, but worthless now since they took out sup mats. Maybe make them 'all purpose' sup mats now like pr mats that can be used in any racial craft, not just forest sup mats. Is that possible?

Make the zone q250 also, maybe with .... ( I had an idea for a conquerable city and winner could designate type of mats, but all supreme.... and other ideas invited please....) or something like that. But at least make a reason to go there other than just for Rangers to have a pathway to get to wastelands, or Lands of Umbra, Or just for the occasional Gnookin/Cuttlekin find and kill. I find Nexus almost worthless at the moment. :(

Would be better to restore sup mat to Nexus. Removing sup from Nexus was one of the worst decisions after merge (there were some other halfbaken and outright wrong decisions as well, but this one was outstanding).

You have to think of the people that would be trying to get master digging in PR besides if you want to do PVP go to Land of Unbra and Nexus and do PVP there we don't need anymore PVP places.

I agree with Daomei, this won't be a good idea, it's annoying enough being ganked while digging, which is already hardcore for some places/mats, between adds and KPs. I also agree with the fact that Nexus is now useless, don't know what could motivate such a decision as removing sup from there...

I agree with you!

At least ther was a voting to bring the sources in roots back as before merge. I expectet that this was for Nexus also . The Nexus is part of the roots (you can see it on color of the teleporters). The Nexus is somthing special (in lore also) with high sap aeria like the roots.

The Nexus is now nearly empty from players, with the change backto the old sources he will be visited again

I have to agree with Daomei on this; Wen's proposal shows no consideration for those of us that do PvE only. There are enough forced PvP areas on Atys as it is IMO.

I for one would much rather have Kitin Patrols then PvP in all Prime Roots regions. Digging anywhere is hard enough and in Prime Roots 250 zones it should be hardest of all, which it already is. Making these zones PvP would keep me above ground, in the knowledge that I must first master PvP techniques AND never dig solo again before I venture underground.