Touring the camps - without mektoub - IDEEN FÜR RYZOM

#1 Eingetragen von Daomei vor 10 Jahren Mehrsprachig

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Die Reise zu den Lagern - ohne Mektoub
In der alten Zeit war es möglich, die Reise zu den Lagern ohne Mektoub zu machen. Nun, nachdem wir die Lager wiederhaben (ein dickes Dankeschön nochmals an Devs und Eventteam) wäre es fein, wenn es auch diese Möglichkeit wieder gäbe.

Die Tour ist ziemlich abschreckend für f2p, aber auch für neue Spieler ohne Wohnung und mehreren Packern, da sie ihre Habe oder grosse Teile auf dem Reittier haben, ihrem einzigen Speicher. Da ist das Todesrisiko hoch und die Bergung in dem Falle recht schwierig.

Und auch Lore- und RP-weise würde das Sinn machen: Als die Lager im Bau waren, brauchte man das schwere Baumaterial, das nur auf dem Reittier transportiert werden konnte. Heute braucht man nur ein wenig Zeug zur Reparatur, Werkzeuge, Post für Wachen und Aufpasser, Dinge, die auch in ein kleines Paket passen.

Ich stelle 3 Varianten zur Diskussion:

1. Die Tour wie vor der Fusion, nur kleine Pakete (wer will kann reiten, oder nicht)

2. Die Tour in zwei aufspalten: eine mit Mektoub und grossem Paket, eine mit kleinem Paket und damit zu Fuss möglich, wenn gewünscht. Die Belohnung für die berittene Tour könnte etwas angehoben werden, sagen wir 2500 statt jetzt 2200 Basis-Länderpunkte (für Nichtbürger), und 1800 oder so, wenn man die Tour mit kleinem Paket nimmt. Der Cooldown sollte gleich bleiben und immer für beide Varianten aktiviert sein, so dass man binnen 8h immer nur eine nehmen kann.

3. Alles so lassen, wie es jetzt ist

4 mal geändert | Zuletzt geändert von Cerulean (vor 10 Jahren)

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#2 Eingetragen von Daomei vor 10 Jahren

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As it is not possible for me to change texts inside the voting part, Tamarea or whoever please:
Change "to variants" to "two variants", and remove the '=' behind the '?' in the poll title. I am unable to edit that. Thank you.

Edit (Tamarea): done by Cerulean!

Edit: done, thanks a lot. Daomei

2 mal geändert | Zuletzt geändert von Daomei (vor 10 Jahren)

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#3 Eingetragen von Placio vor 10 Jahren [en]

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Honestly, i don't tour the camps because in the lakes it takes an insane amount of time to swim all over the place! Applying that concept to other regions, it would also be slower to not have a mount. Unless the small packages can be teleported which seems to defeat the purpose of the delivery... so i'll wait to see if any other comments sway my opinion :)

#4 Eingetragen von Salazar vor 10 Jahren [en]

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I rather keep out of the voting. Was doing the camps like mad the first time around, every free minute I had, but after the merge wasn't able to do it again when they were rebuild - not only because of the lack of time, but also because of the lack of proper equipment. So while I had a crazy amount of Matis points before the merge, I only have a handful now. Well, it must do. I did a few rounds when the camps were rebuild, but it really makes no sense when you're too weak to clear your way and in turn to take in any damage.

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
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#5 Eingetragen von Mjollren vor 10 Jahren [en]

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I'm not sure I follow, Salazar .. if anything, touring with a mektoub is easier than doing it on foot. Regardless on what type of animal you place the package, you can outrun mobs by being mounted yourself.

Personally I vote to get two types of tours, best of both world :)

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#6 Eingetragen von Salazar vor 10 Jahren [en]

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The only time I ever lost a Mek was while doing the camps. Lost it in Grove of Confusion, and from that time on did most of the deliveries on foot.

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
Royal Historian
Member of the Royal Academy of Yrkanis
First Seraph of the Order of the Argo Navis

#7 Eingetragen von Mjollren vor 10 Jahren [en]

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Granted, forest might be more risky..

I've had some run-ins with the dogs of the jungle, but nothing major - you lose one animal, you learn the aggro pattern, and next time you know to take a detour in Dementia. The desert run is almost free from dangers to your mektoub, only tyrancha to care about.

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#8 Eingetragen von Daomei vor 10 Jahren Mehrsprachig

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For subbed players, nowadays, loss of a mount is trivial. Get a friend or an alt to buy a new one, give it to you at the tp while you hold the package after freeing the beast, done. In the old times, a mount was more expensive than the strongest packer.

For f2p, the mount is the only storage outside their bag. Loss of the mount is a tragedy or at least a severe problem. Therefore, the actual design of the tour of the camps is prohibitive for young players.

That is a shame as this tour is an excellent opportunity for them to learn about all regions of the surface. Before the fusion, I offered guided tours to the camps twice a week, on every continent in turn. There were similar player events on Arispotle (I copied the idea from there). Today, it may be hard to find young players who dare loss of their mount and all their belongings.

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#9 Eingetragen von Teeneemai vor 10 Jahren [de]

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As Daomei referred to the Touring of the Camps, prior to the 2nd Swarming being possible on foot, it was also possible to use the Teleports to reach destinations faster, This meant that the whole process was quicker, not slower, regardelss of which of the four continents the tour was performed on.

#10 Eingetragen von Siela vor 10 Jahren [en]

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I would like very much to do it by foot. There are multiple reasons:

1. As you might know, i'm f2p. I've tried to do the tour 2 times. First time alone, but i already needed rez at second camp or so from a guildy, then shortly after that, my mek died in HH while trying to get to the camp there. As I have loaded it pretty full, it being my only storage, i had to find someone help me get the mats out. Then on the second attempt, Daomei helped me with it, but still my mount died on the tour.

2. My mektoub is in Forest, Yrk to be exact normally. I have found out, that this is one of the most dangerous camp tours, but my GH is in yrk and i don't want to move my mek to desert. Now with it possible on foot, i could still do the desert one without having to move my mek.

so +1000

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#11 Eingetragen von Teeneemai vor 10 Jahren [de]

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The forest tour is quite difficult, even on foot but on a mekkie it would be more, rather than less dangerous. You have my sympathies Siela and you have highlighted quite clearly why a return to being able to perform the tours on foot would be sensible.

#12 Eingetragen von Placio vor 10 Jahren [en]

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Would the mission that allows teleporting give less of a reward? My understanding of the heavy packages that require a mektoub is to prevent tp'ing the supplies around...

#13 Eingetragen von Siela vor 10 Jahren [en]

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Plac, i wouldn't care if they give a bit less reward with same cooldown time... still better than now, at least for f2p, but yes i would say it gives less reward, or it wouldn't be fair.

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#14 Eingetragen von Placio vor 10 Jahren [en]

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I ws just thinking too, for the sake of F2P, they are not required to do all 6 (?) runs. If I recall you can drop mission at any time, if lvl 200 region is too dangerous then just do 50-150 :)

#15 Eingetragen von Siela vor 10 Jahren [en]

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but the reward gets always bigger, so if you abandon before, you lose many faction points :)

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Should the tour of the camps be changed?