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Report on the Ranger meeting of 12 November, 2013

Wilk Potskin and 15 other people were present in Almati Wood Ranger camp at the appointed time. By the end of the meeting we had the usual 25-30 folk.

((After a brief delay, the meeting started with a report/complaint by Rangini, both OOC.
First - The Matis hill is not responding properly and sometimes the ranger in camp is bugged as well. He reported that basically he has reached the end of his patience with that – bug tickets aren't fun to write, and the other mounds all work.
Second – Why do other rangers have a title and he can't get it? This was in reference to the title Ranger Compaignon borne by Zorroargh and Deprayken.
Vradden explained that there had been problems with reboots and old scripts being used instead of the updated ones. He suggested that Rangini email him directly if there were further problems.
The Ranger Companion title that Zorroargh and Deprayken have is for ambassadorial purposes only as had been set up at the last meeting. It is an honorary title for a specific purpose.
The Ranger rite is not ready; when it is ready it will be announced in the public forums.))

Wilk then asked three questions of the assembled homins:
Question 1: Have you killed white kitins since the last meeting? A number of people indicated that they had. There were some absent folk whom we know have done so as well.
Question 2: Who reported kitin spots to help complete Bittty's maps? No one present had done so since the last meeting. Krill and Daomei reported they had seen no new spots. Bittty reported a few people have told him of spots and that he has found some new spots in the Desert.
Question 3: Who has helped with building Camps? A larger number of people raised their hands. Bittty pointed to Zhoi as a builder, but she said that she is "not a ranger" even though she is present. Irfidel and Daomei pointed out it's not just a Ranger thing. Wilk supports that interpretation.

Bittty asked that people check the maps to be sure that the kitins they are killing are not new pods. He thinks that they are getting more numerous and spreading.

Wilk asks if the nations are aware of the apparent spread of the white kitins. It might be a good thing for the Ranger ambassadorial people to bring up to the leaders at the Assemblies.

Chonchon wondered that we should call on the nations and asked if there was not an army of Rangers to fight them? He discounted the scientific investigation of the termites, insisting that force is needed.

Seturnulon rose to speak. He feels that species of kitins are changing. From kinchers to kidinak and kirosta. Krill notes that she has seen mostly Kiban. Other folk have observed a mixture. Daomei said it seems to her that the pods stay the same in composition over time in KoD forest.

Wilk asked for addition of species code to the maps. Bittty has agreed to add codes provided he gets good data. Seturnulon said, and Wilk agreed, that we should involve others as well.

Termites reports: All save Sharleen and Rangini. (bugged)
Geyos: Nothing new. Biggest threat to the mound is Kiwalie, collecting for her cookies. Kiwalie responded by producing a bag of cookies.

Zorroargh: Nothing in particular to report. in brief : termite food > eggs > termites > cookies. Sometimes curious homins want to wake up the Goaris.

Daomei: Inspects the mound near Pyr, taking measures to maintain stability and avoiding increasing the numbers to the point where Goaris get very excited. Only weak ones appear that she can punch and kick to death.

Sharleen: asked if it wasn't time to start using them against the kitins? Time passes and the kitins seem to be getting more numerous.

Wilk: they have only been tested in Lakes and Desert. We want to be completely sure of all lands, hence we need the Forest results.

Zhoi accused Wilk about disruption of the Nobles/Royal relationship in Forest and asked why the Almati Forest couldn't serve as surrogate for Forest? Wilk pointed out different behaviors in the New Lands as opposed to what happened with the test mounds in Almati Woods. He also pointed out that the political problems in the Matis courts are not Rangers' fault. Zhoi pouts. Others growl...

Seternulon suggested setting up a mound in Nexus, since it is Forest and neutral. Wilk noted that the soil of Nexus is different. All agreed that it must be different since we used to be able to harvest superb materials there before the second swarming.

Wimara asked if the area that the mound is in wasn't actually Desert more than forest? Do we really need the data from there? Wilk answered that the soil is more Forest than Desert despite the lack of moisture.
Krill noted that she has seen a termite mound in GoC … she will try to find it again.

Zorroargh proposed the possibility of creating greenhouses in Almati Woods with Forest and Jungle ecosystems in them to test them. Wilk pointed out that was very similar to what they had done with the test mounds, and that the behaviors had been entirely different.
Much mixed discussion and disruption ending with nothing much as discussion calmed down.

Wilk announced there will be a first brief expedition into the Old Lands – an exploratory step before the Great Expedition that was announced earlier http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/18029/1. There was much excitement and chatter at this announcement. Wilk said that it will be a small foray, not a big trip and that he needs a cartographer, fighter. diplomat. scout, and scientist. (Those who wish to volunteer should send Izam Mail to Vradden or email to Vradden@ryzom.com).

Much discussion revolved around the mistaken impression that this was a major expedition, with calls for full representation of the Nations and suggestions that additional offices were needed, such as healer, cook, cookiemaker, barrelcarrier, hairdresser and the like. It seems likely that Wilk will have many more volunteers than he needs and he commented that many of the suggestions would be needed for the great expedition later.

Wilk tried to end the meeting but various people started talking about subjects that (in the opinion of this correspondent) were not relevant to the meeting. Questions of whether or not the Rangers were responsible for the Nobles Assembly of Davae being in turmoil, questions about Almati's lab, whether it had been legal or illegal, whether it had been discovered and whether the Rangers were suppressing information gathered there which some felt was "cultural property" of the Matis. Zhoi Seturnulon felt that even the scouting expedition should have representation for the four nations. (It was not clear if she meant Nations or Races – certainly it seems to this correspondent that a Ranger expedition should be made up of Rangers and Ranger aspirants, not Nationals.)

Finally the babble died down and the meeting adjourned. The next meeting is scheduled for 2 December.

Done by my hand and copied by the New Guild of Scribes (formerly C.J.A.J.S.).
As I have perhaps intruded more in the reporting of this meeting than I have in the past, I welcome comments.
– Mac'Od Bittty, Ranger Aspirant.
A seal is affixed to each copy
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The New Guild of Scribes in Fairhaven
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Ambassador Zhoi,

I'd like to point out that the Royal Court does not need the Chamber of Nobles to make decisions. The Chamber was installed in the first place to represent New Matia, to keep the country running and to supervise the towns as well as advising the Karan. The Karan and the Court have every right to make decisions without consulting the Chamber and pass by their advice, while the Chamber can and will not make important decisions without consulting the Court and receiving its approval. The Chamber cannot exist without the system it was installed in, while the Court can exist without the Chamber and its representatives.

Deles necat,

oren pyr Ambassador Zhoi,
I think we all heard (and read) your concern, there is no point in repeating them a hundred of times. Now that is it said, please stop. I (and i'm probably not the only one) am bored of you complaining all day long ; and you do it about subject that doesn't even concern you ! As far as i know, you are ambassador of the zoraï only ; if the Matis have problems with Wilk and the Rangers, they can handle it themselves.
So, please, (and i'm asking that as a single individual, not in any official name) stop complaining, especially about stuff who aren't your business.

Patriot Geyos,
Master Brewer from Oflovak, Follower of the Great Glouglou.

I would suggest to move all the discussion which is widely OOC to Forum Events (OOC) (Arispotle). And would hope that contributors refrain from fruitless polemics. I might then comment on a few topics from this thread.

Request to moderator: Please move replies from everyone starting with #4 and put them in a new thread in Events (OOC) (Arispotle). I believe that #2 and #3 are proper RP comments on my report.

New thread label should be: Commentary on the Ranger Meeting Report for (12 November 2013)

Sincerely, Bitttymacod

*Comment* Please try to use RP as much as possible since this is a specific RP section of the forums. Splitting this thread will create even more confusion than what is already reigning, so please sort your posts so this topic stays on track :)

CSR Tiximei


Thank you for looking into it, (CSR) Tiximei. -- B

Reply to Zhoi (OOC)(edit: originally composed *before* your most recent post):

In my opinion your posts after #2 are not interpretable as notes appended to my report. They are more similar to the proclamations of an orator in the Agora. (Edit: If the moderator wishes, she may put them into a Roleplay thread.)

In response to your posts:

Following the debate between Filiar Salazar and Ranger Wilk Potskin at an earlier gathering (Meeting of 9 Sept 2013), Wilk DID postpone experiments in Verdant Gardens for (an IRL month) more than an Atys Cycle.  During that time no experiments were made on the Plant Option and no other plans were put forth. (I believe that there was a meeting of the Assembly of Nobles in that time period.) In addition, the Karan did not communicate any need to delay past that time.

You, Zhoi, appear to be the only person pushing the Forest termite experiments as a "problem". You are doing so loudly, and in a venue intended primarily to inform the Ranger Aspirants of what has happened.  As such I welcome your post #2 and Salazar's post #3. (OOC)The rest of this thread has devolved into an argument about matters that deserve a separate forum thread.

Finally, it seems to me that there has been NO action on the part of any Rangers or Ranger Aspirants to attempt to sabotage the Plant Option.  There is NO reason why the two cannot be developed in parallel.  There is EVERY reason why both options should be developed RAPIDLY. The kitin threat is growing daily (IRL) as you, yourself have helped me document.

The Rangers have been working in cooperation with the Fyros and the Trykers and with the cooperation of the Karan of the Matis.  Where is the work of the Zorai and Matis who prefer the Plant Option?

-- Bittty

ooc: That is a pretty unfair question, Bittty, as the event re. the plant option was delayed by the EMs three months ago because of the absence of an EM, but probably also because it was seen by some players as sabotage on the Ranger's event. The players would have continued, if possible. However, with the EM decision to give permit to the Ranger's experiments in Hidden Source, it makes no sense for the Matis to continue on that, as the Court made clear its preferences and how important it believes the Chamber of Nobles to be. To make it short, it killed any political player's involvement in Verdant Heights.

As far as the good terms of the new Ranger Ambassadors and the Matis Nobles are concerned, I took it from the French forums that the Ranger Ambassador has already stepped back from her assignment. That is no hindance for you, of course, as the Rangers have, helped by the EMs (willingly or not), decided to do business with the Royal Court directly, which no doubt you'll also able to do in the future. That saves a lot of time, too, for it does not involve any players.

All of this is *way* OOC, but I think relevant to the IC part.

*Sigh* I don't see it as an unfair question, Salazar. Role play is role-play and can be done with or without support from the Event Team. (See, for example my current posts on the continuing and growing menace of the white kitins.) The posting of the progress today by Zhoi is a welcome addition.

I must say that I didn't, don't, and cannot see how the Plant Option/Matis+Zorai could be a "sabotage" of the Termite/Ranger actions -- if that was the reason, it was a poor one and I would blame the EM who made it, not the one who channels Wilk.

I saw the announcement of the hiatus in the actions but I understood that it was justified as being to allow the reconciliation of contradictory statements about the Goo-contaminated Rangers. I saw nothing about a missing EM. When the Rangers were given the go-ahead to continue, I assumed that had been solved. That was over a month ago.

A problem I see is that if we are to engage a larger player base in roleplay activities that events must move at something a bit faster than the glacial pace that they have in the past. Also it is clear that said larger player base (at least in EN) is not extensively involved in the "meeting-type" roleplay. If a way could be devised to engage the National and Regional Assemblies in a more rapid role than the current schedule of meetings it would be a good idea to implement it in addition to the regular schedule.

I now will communicate OOC via IM rather than in this thread. I may start an OOC thread in addition on certain matters.

***End OOC digression. ***

+100

You hit the nail on the head atleast on aristople the roleplay and meetings we had where fast and flowing at a nice pace. If a meeting lasted over 1h then you got like a really long meeting where half the ppl already would have left and the other half would be complaining.