Erm, you realize you're roleplaying on an OOC thread in an OOC part of the forum ? ^^
So, i won't answer to this roleplay, as a roleplay, but instead precise : the initial issue between Icus and Zhoi started after the first assembly of Pyr, at a time i had already left.
Although there has been a first argument during the assembly itself, i didn't think it was necessary for me to interven.
On the contrary, i think, because i know how the assembly works according to the akenaks who were leading the assembly, i rather see Zhoi in fault than Icus, or let's say i see them both in fault.
Now about Zhoi's position, to speak openly , which is the purpose of this OOC thread : i feel Zhoi being honorary Initiate has no meaning for me. (Edit : this is one of the reasons i didn't involve in this issue with fyros) You can't oppose me something that existed on Leanon, because i could oppose you that it didn't in Aniro, this kind of argument is just senseless and leading to a dead end.
More than that, I consider you can't represent the Theocracy in any way without being a part of the Theocracy, which is : being initiate. The current situation, from which i don't know anything about the reasons, consequence etc on Leanon, transposed here on Atys make me think that it is just leading to make the Initiation rite meaningless, empty, and is thus threatening any national roleplay, because removing national identity.
This is something i managed to make you all understand with my roleplay, either public or private.
Especially : i didn't react to the first presentation of zhoi, at the first assembly of Zora, because i wanted to know more. And to wait for the constitution of the Theocracy. So far, all i knew is that each local city was free to make changes they find good, as long as it is not contrary to the Constitution.
But when something that was decided by Hoi-Cho, this honorary initiate title, begins to have national consequences like being able to vote like an initiate or being able to be ambassador , i just can't accept that, i reacted then.
How i felt is : former Leanon is imposing something, i resisted in a pure roleplay way.
Once again, it seems to be just inefficient, so here we are, discussing OOC.
So, i won't answer to this roleplay, as a roleplay, but instead precise : the initial issue between Icus and Zhoi started after the first assembly of Pyr, at a time i had already left.
Although there has been a first argument during the assembly itself, i didn't think it was necessary for me to interven.
On the contrary, i think, because i know how the assembly works according to the akenaks who were leading the assembly, i rather see Zhoi in fault than Icus, or let's say i see them both in fault.
Now about Zhoi's position, to speak openly , which is the purpose of this OOC thread : i feel Zhoi being honorary Initiate has no meaning for me. (Edit : this is one of the reasons i didn't involve in this issue with fyros) You can't oppose me something that existed on Leanon, because i could oppose you that it didn't in Aniro, this kind of argument is just senseless and leading to a dead end.
More than that, I consider you can't represent the Theocracy in any way without being a part of the Theocracy, which is : being initiate. The current situation, from which i don't know anything about the reasons, consequence etc on Leanon, transposed here on Atys make me think that it is just leading to make the Initiation rite meaningless, empty, and is thus threatening any national roleplay, because removing national identity.
This is something i managed to make you all understand with my roleplay, either public or private.
Especially : i didn't react to the first presentation of zhoi, at the first assembly of Zora, because i wanted to know more. And to wait for the constitution of the Theocracy. So far, all i knew is that each local city was free to make changes they find good, as long as it is not contrary to the Constitution.
But when something that was decided by Hoi-Cho, this honorary initiate title, begins to have national consequences like being able to vote like an initiate or being able to be ambassador , i just can't accept that, i reacted then.
How i felt is : former Leanon is imposing something, i resisted in a pure roleplay way.
Once again, it seems to be just inefficient, so here we are, discussing OOC.