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#171 Added by Gidget 4 years ago [en] 

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Azazor
Ce n'est pas une réponse officielle, je ne suis qu'un joueur.
Et oui, vous pouvez donner votre avis ici, il sera pris en compte. Vous ne serez pas le premier ni le dernier à faire ainsi. De plus vous avez l'ordre du jour de la prochaine réunion pour vous aider.

I am aware, but that does not change the fact that I am thankful that you have shown me more respect than it seems some other folks here are capable of. I asked to be heard, you listened, and that is very much appreciated.

Sadly, I suspect that you may be the only one that would consider anything I have to say, and therefore have reconsidered both my desire to attend meetings, and to have anything at all to do with Ryzom Forge.

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Do not assume that you speak for all just because you are the loudest voice; there are many who disagree that simply have no desire to waste words on you.

#172 Added by Victoriacamper 4 years ago [en] 

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Which confirms the original thesis.

You're just a drama queen with no interest to contribute beyond void complaining.




Pretty much like me. Ironic :-)

#173 Added by Heernis 4 years ago [en] 

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Gidget, honestly. You'd like to attend the Ryzom Forge Meetings. Good. But writing and bitching and repeating doesn't really help. If you're really serious about it, try to help the team first. Be there and get to know the team behind Ryzom. The more people from your time zone there are, the sooner it will be possible to change the times for Ryzom Forge Meeting. That's a fact.

Don't demand, demand and demand again, but get involved. The fact is, people work here and they do it voluntarily in their spare time. In order to change things here, you need to show commitment, just like any other group of people. Show that the game is not only a pastime, but that you also invest time. In this way you can rather change something. It is only a small advice :-)

Think about it: Who are you more likely to listen to in real life? Someone who is constantly grumbling or someone who goes along with the game?

Get in touch with Tamarea :-) Whether it's translations, proofreading or tests in the game. People are always needed.

(I am just talking as a player and of my expirience in the team, not as official statement :-) )

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#174 Added by Khalaoden 4 years ago [en] 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – February 17th, 2020

Storyline release

Tamarea (RT) – 20:38 UTC
Season 2, called "In Black against White", will begin on Wednesday, February 19 with its prologue, entitled "The one where you get informed".
During this prologue, which should last about a month, ...


Q: Will the episodes remain playable after their allotted duration?

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#175 Added by Sinvaders 4 years ago [en] 

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Heernis
Gidget, honestly. You'd like to attend the Ryzom Forge Meetings. Good. But writing and bitching and repeating doesn't really help. If you're really serious about it, try to help the team first. Be there and get to know the team behind Ryzom. The more people from your time zone there are, the sooner it will be possible to change the times for Ryzom Forge Meeting. That's a fact.
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By saying this I highly doubt you have understood Gidget's point.

#176 Added by Heernis 4 years ago [en] 

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Sinvaders
By saying this I highly doubt you have understood Gidget's point.

May I ask why? The point was that the RF Meeting should be happen in times when people from other time zones than EU can be there also?! Or did i misunderstand?

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#177 Added by Sinvaders 4 years ago [fr] 

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It's actually the point. But when you say:
But writing and bitching and repeating doesn't really help. If you're really serious about it, try to help the team first. Be there and get to know the team behind Ryzom. The more people from your time zone there are, the sooner it will be possible to change the times for Ryzom Forge Meeting. That's a fact.

It's basically wrong. It is not fact. What the fact is: nobody in the team wants to take into account those who can't attend RF meeting.
Also, why someone would have to get involved in a team to be able to attend RF meeting?
But in any case, by not attending those meeting you don't miss much.

#178 Added by Victoriacamper 4 years ago [en] 

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Call me arrogant but I think my reply is so far the most accurate and reactive to the actual point.

And your post is contradictory Sinvaders,

You say not much is missed by failing to attend RF meetings, yet something should be done to shift the schedule of everyone who puts actual effort into the RF-Team in favour on someone who apparently* has no real interest, and who only "bitches" (Daddy-Heernis' words) for something by which you say yourself, he wouldn't be missing much.

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Apart from my own "bitching" and on a much friendlier tone, I fully agree with Heernis, a much easier/productive/rewarding way to get what you want, Gidget, is to maybe motivate yourself and any other aquaintances in US-time zone(s) to join the different teams (you don't have to live in Eu nor have a fixed time availability) to drop in your cents for the different projects.

The more people on your time zone also means the more viable it is that someone holds a meeting at your desired time.

I stand by what I said, that RF is way more beyond the occasional meetings and what counts is actually what happens behind curtains.


Of course, theres always the alternative to just distance yourself and stop suffering because of something that doesn't really matter, like attending a meeting, and instead play the game and enjoy the occasional changes.

#179 Added by Sinvaders 4 years ago [fr] 

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Gidget is complaining about the fact she can't attend RF meeting ... and I do agree with her that nothing is done (yet?) to include non-european peoples in the meeting (differents time-zone and schedule etc).

And, yes, I still say, if you don't attend the meeting most of the time you won't miss anything.
I don't see where you can see "contradiction" in this, it's only 2 facts (yes, I'll resay them)

- Nothing is done to include non-european in the "discussion";
- If you are not able to attend the meeting, you won't miss much;

#180 Added by Moniq 4 years ago [en] 

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Sinvaders
...And, yes, I still say, if you don't attend the meeting most of the time you won't miss anything...

Not true. The report will only show you what has happened. Your possible contribution and the atmosphere will be missing. Ok you can read full log on RC to see how vital the conversation has been, but still, you miss your opportunity to ask with every meeting. We (not just Ryzom teams) loosing opportunity to meet players directly. And in situation when you are constantly unable to participate...

I would be nice to have at least one meeting per month in different time and probably another day, however weekend days are probably even worse. The problem is that there is no one who can lead such meeting.

And if *you* will not join, then it will never be.

#181 Added by Craftjenn 4 years ago [fr] 

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Sorry, but for me it's better to start an other subjet, then add on here a link to it.

 

My main argument about my remark is languages : all Ryzom Forge reports are translated, and then easy to read for English / French / German users...

Your comments are in English... and for French/German/other languages readers, it's quite like flood D

 

(As in uni, full of acronyms and/or spelling mistakes and/or slang, very difficult to read for homins who use a different language for game interface. )

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#182 Added by Khalaoden 4 years ago [en] 

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Craftjenn
Sorry, but for me it's better to start an other subjet, then add on here a link to it.

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#183 Added by Bisugott 4 years ago [en] 

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Khalaoden
Craftjenn
Sorry, but for me it's better to start an other subjet, then add on here a link to it.

+1

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#184 Added by Tykus 4 years ago Multilingual 

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Ryzom Forge meeting (February 17th 2020)

Date: monday, February 17th, 20:30 UTC (21:30 CET)
Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public channel Forge (open the WebIG (Ctrl+W) and click on the "RF" button next to the language flags)
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Duration: 1.5 hour
Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.
Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.
Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    1- Storyline Rumors feedback
    2-  Patch fix (ASAP)
    3- Recruitment

#185 Added by Moniq 4 years ago Multilingual 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report - March 30, 2020

Agenda
1. Storyline: Rumors feedback
2. Next patch
3. Recruitment of volunteers

1. Storyline: Rumors feedback

Tykus, 19:52 UTC
What do you think of the rumors? If you meet bugs, send us a ticket with the NPC name, it will allow us to be more reactive.
Anyone?
Craftjenn, 19:55 UTC
First of all, I would like to say that I posted a message about this in the forum. Then, for some people, who suffer like me, all these clicks are tiring.
Tykus, 19:58 UTC
Yes, I understand, but in a video game, we can hardly do otherwise. Besides, you can do it in pieces, in small steps.
It's a long time event :).

Q: What are the "rumors"? The "Ask politely" bubbles?
A: Yes!

Laoviel, 20:01 UTC
I wanted to second Craftjenn's statement, that the interface is a bit difficult. Since the dialogue is only read by the player, with no options. Why not simplify the text? You could place the player's question to the NPC, the NPC answer and the player reaction in one single chat bubble, that only requires one click.
Tykus, 20:06 UTC
No, that's the point, the NPC will give you an answer, before knowing what it is (normally the NPCs always give the same answers). But the process requires the 2 steps, if you are given the answer at the same time as the question, it doesn't make sense :)
Djiper, 20:09 UTC
I want only to say that the second set of rumors (about kitins) is much more interesting…
And thank Ulukyn for his availability on the remaining bugs.
Tykus, 20:12 UTC
I will send your remark to Ulukyn :)
Balthae, 20:14 UTC
I may be the only one, but since I don't understand everything, I just click and see if the yellow passphrase appears (this to answer the question about the boring show).
Tykus, 20:15 UTC
No, I don't think you're the only one, but beware, rumours contain information for the future. :)

2 - Next patch

Tykus, 20:19 UTC
Added: A window can snap on to other windows.
Changed: MP3 player shows absolute path, media format info on sysinfo.
Fixed: MP3 player shows error when sound is disabled.
Added: New /showHideUserLandMark command to hide markers on map.
Fixed: The client window is no more focused and mouse is no more frozen when loading or teleporting.

Changes in Daily Missions
Added: Basic tokens as an option for a reward.
Changed: Increase of 20% the rewards for Missions based in Occupations Products.
Changed: Reduction of wanted items for Occupations Products with a grade higher or equal to 2.

Added: RP tags for Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami, Karavan, Marauder and Ranger.
To get these tags you must equipe a jewel on the earring and use Elyps on nation or faction merchant to grave the Allegorie on it.
Equip or unequip the jewel to display or hide the RP tag.
These tags are displayed only when you are PVP tagged.
You can show or hide the tag when you want, if you are PVP tagged and hide the tags, the current PVP icon (two crossed words) will be displayed.
To understand better how Allegories works and comes, you can talk with Zin Di-Dao in the Kitins' Lair of Almati Wood and start a chained rumors.
Tryroamer, 20:21 UTC
I hoped to obtain a link here about reviewing one's own already heard rumours.
Tykus, 20:24 UTC
Ulukyn has something like that planned, but I don't know exactly what…
Djiper, 20:25 UTC
The said link for rumors works, but only within a guild.
It allows everyone to know how many rumors the guild has collected, and, in addition, by selecting a player you can see the rumors they have collected.
Craftjenn, 20:32 UTC
"A window can snap on to other windows."? And "The client window is no more focused and mouse is no more frozen when loading or teleporting."? Could you be more specific, please?
Tykus, 20:35 UTC
So, for the mouse, it's especially for those who are in multiscreens, when you launch a ryzom client and you are doing something else, the mouse will be immediately taken by the open interface and you will type out of your window.
Moniq you tested "A window can snap to other windows", can you tell us about it?
Moniq, 20:38 UTC
I hear about that for the first time or I don't understand what you mean.
Tykus, 20;41 UTC
Ok, i will share information (i will test it probably) when I get some. OK ?
No one have questions about the tags ?
Jiyan, 20:43 UTC
its not been translated to english. if you enlighten us first, please :)
Tykus, 20:45 UTC
Added: RP tags for Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami, Karavan, Marauder and Ranger
To get these tags you must equipe a jewel on the earring and use Elyps on nation or faction merchant to grave the Allegorie on it
Equip or unequip the jewel to display or hide the RP tag
These tags are displayed only when you are "PVP" tagged.
You can show or hide the tag when you want, if you are PVP tagged and hide the tags, the current PVP icon (with 2 crossed words) will be displayed.
Better like this ?
Tryroamer, 20:48 UTC
The PVP tags have many times hindered my healing during bosshunts, is there no way to remind PVP and any other player characters to deactivate PVP tag for those events? Or to automatically deactivate PVP status upon entering into such events?
Tykus, 20:51 UTC
No, it's a player stuff. You all have to think about it, we cannot automatize all stuff, Ryzom would loose his soul :)

Q: Does this new tag use same mechanic like PVP tag or Outpost tag?
A: These RP tags are only displayed when you have activated your PVP tag for roleplay logic reasons. Indeed, your roleplayed character is considered to be flesh and blood, and therefore can't be invulnerable to the attacks of other homins. This does not go against the "pacifist" RP but just reflects the physical vulnerability of your character.
When you display the RP tag (nation, faction, organization or other), it will simply replace the usual "classical" PvP tag (the one displaying two crossed swords). It will therefore be easy to distinguish between OOC players seeking PVP combat and RP players accepting the physical vulnerability of their character.

Tryroamer, 20:58 UTC
All that is surely correct as such, but when i try to heal anyone still active in PVP mode then I cannot. Instead I merely hang in the air and no healing takes place.
Tykus, 21:01 UTC
That's the PVP rule. If you are PVP tagged, you take the risk of dying, players who are not tagged cannot resurrect you, heal you, and so on. It's a player's choice and we're only offering more possibilities to players with this new tag.
Balthae, 21:01 UTC
As I understand it, a tag is added to say, "I'm not looking for PVP, but I don't want to be attacked"?
Tykus, 21:04 UTC
No... We're gonna add more variations, namely one can tag nation and or faction. Not all tags will be PVP but as long as you choose an allegiance, if you activate a tag, you'll be vulnerable :)

Q: Could you be more specific, please?
A: The RP tag should be seen as a "I am roleplaying and therefore accept that my character is physically vulnerable" mode.
This is to avoid, for example, finding yourself roleplaying in the middle of your enemies, but without them being able to attack you. Which would be, in the end, anything but logical from a RP point of view.
Player-characters without any allegiance will be marked PVP, as today, by the classic tag. But it will now exist a tag (which can also be activated at the player's request) for each rite of allegiance passed, a tag which, as soon as his character wears it, will place him in PVP mode, i.e. will make him vulnerable to attacks from any other homin in PVP mode (tagged by classic tag or RP tag) and insensitive to the actions of any homin non PVP marked. The RP tag is therefore, in fact , a customized PVP tag which, since it displays allegiances instead of the classic tag, allows homins in PVP mode to attack (or not) other homins in PVP mode with full knowledge of the facts and not blindly.
If, for example, you take the Tryker and Kamis allegiance, you will be able to activate the Tryker tag or the Kamis tag, or both. Then, since these tags display your allegiances, you will be vulnerable to attacks from any player tagged by the classic PVP tag but also from any player wearing a Karavan RP tag. And you can also attack RP-tagged players whose tag shows their allegiance to Karavan... and spare (except for treason in progress :) ) those wearing an RP tag identifying them as Kamists.
A Ranger roplaying a pacifist will be able to continue to do so. This new RP mode will only make him, logically, vulnerable to attacks from others. This won't mean that he will suddenly become belligerent (no tagged PVP character is compelled to attack) but will just show that he is... homin.

Q: I am normally just healer, for all comers… That's no longer possible then?
A: Yes, but if you to heal your marked PVP teammates, you too will need to activate a PVP tag, whether classic or RP :)

Q: I didn't quite get it… If we tag ourselves PVP "OOC" we will be able to attack any other player PVP or RP tagged?
A: Yes. The PVP tags will only be customized into RP tags, so that players can show their allegiance(s). But the system doesn't change: if you don't activate no tag, no risk for you. :)

3 - Recruitment of volunteers

Tykus, 21:23 UTC
We are looking for volunteers to join :
  • Translation Team: ES and RU translators/proofreaders;
  • Computer-Graphics Team: graphic designers (3D / 2D);
  • Support Team: EN and FR CSRs;
  • Dev/Ark Team: developers, as well as volunteers who will be trained on the Ark creation tool;
  • Level Design Team;
  • Event Animation Team: to design/write and/or animate events.
I take upon my time to get up early and chat with the players of the US timezone, but it is essential to find volunteers to enliven their time slot. I can do once a month the same Ryzom Forge meeting as for the EU zone, but not more. So it's important that we have volunteers living in America, first in the Support Team but, why not, for events too (I know… I am dreaming :P ).
So, if you're interested, please send a mail to Tamarea or contact her on rocket chat
But there are needs for EU timezone too :)

Q: What is a CSR?
A: A Customer Service Representative, member of the Support Team.

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