[Ryzom Forge] Meeting (5th of october) - OFFICIAL NEWS

#27 Added by Lacuna 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

Naema

If they don't SUBMIT to the 'Stuffed furry animals,' or 'Pole Dancer,' then too bad for them. It is a choice they made. No KL for them. Is it fair? Yes,

No KL for you too then, Naema. Your logic must stay consistant. If Mara can't go for this reason then neither should you.

Excluding mara from using hawkers is fair, we are hated. Excluding us from KL is not! There is no rp reason for doing so. Mara is a choice and this choice has pros and cons; that is fair. What mara are complaining about is not the cons that should apply but the lack of content that should be their for us. We are not complaining about mara being hard we are asking for it what should be there anyway.

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#28 Added by Remigra 9 years ago Report | Quote [de]

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@ Dao

Bitte mach dieses multi lingual gedönse weg, wenn du nur in einer Sprache antwortest ^^ dadurch wird die Übersetzungsfunktion ausgeschaltet ^^(also durch dieses [ BB ] wird das ausgeschaltet ^^)

muss nur die passende Sprache für den text einstellen, das reicht aus beim absenden ;)

danke :)

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#29 Added by Bones 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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wrong thread xD

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#30 Added by Marichia 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Daomei

Marichia: Marauders may access Almati freely and check for kizokoo.

My reply was specifically in response to Naema suggesting that mara get no KL access.

Daomei

Only, they have to lie at the temples. For you, that should be easier than for me, because, as an inhabitant of the sharük, I feel bound to our four pillars, and truth is one of them. Moreover, rangers' precepts bind me to a friendly stance towards the cults, and lying them in the face is not really friendly. So my conflict is more severe than yours.

I would like both of them being resolved, by a hidden path to our headquartes for us, and a teleport for the marauders. As your ethical yardstick seems to be more flexible than ours, I tend to consider your conflict less pressing. Or does it put a load on your conscience to brazenly lie to a kami or kami priest/ess?

I think the mara yardstick is more rigid by virtue of the fact that we don't have to/want to appease all. Rangers should receive co-operation from the temples- maras shouldn't. And again, depending on how one chooses to play it, I would dispute the notion that all mara have no conscience about lying- "mara" doesn't equal "liar" in my book- some are honest to a fault. I'd actually rather not have to talk to the temples at all :) The simple fact is that the game mechanics shouldn't be forcing us to the temples in the first place.

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#31 Added by Bones 9 years ago Report | Quote [es]

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Mari, that is all I wanted to say. I'm terrible at this. Thank you :)

#32 Added by Binarabi 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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[Edited. You must act as a polite and civilized individual, and be respectful with WinchGate staff.]

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Binarabi
This idea of "I'm offended". Well I've got news for you. I'm offended by a lot of things too. Where do I send my list? Life is offensive. You know what I mean? Just get in touch with your outer adult. (Bill Hicks)

#33 Added by Placio 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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A very easy RP solution is RP that you are tricking the Temple transporters into sending you to Almanti, problem solved :D

#34 Added by Daomei 9 years ago Report | Quote Multilingual

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Right Placio, I already suggested that multiple times. I fail to see that a marauder has ethical problems to lie to a K/K cleric, whereas I may have some as a follower of the four pillars as well as the rangers' precepts.

And, to Marichia concerning ethics: Maybe you feel as bad when lying to the priests as I do. I won't deny that you do in that case, but I do not understand it as clerics are your sworn enemies. As a soldier, I would always deceive, forfeit, decoy to everybody and everything in the way of my mission, I never have bad conscience about slaying kitins, even those I perceive intelligent and self-conscient. I would not murder innocents or do similar things really clashing with our precepts and my ethics (as an example: I felt bad when parties storming the KL slayed all eggs in the primary egg chamber. I would not do such things, myself). As far as I understand, the clans of the marauders are more bellicose than my organization, and to their yardstick, there may be less innocents left.

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#35 Added by Tamarea 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Hello,

It seems necessary to remind the community of the basic rules about using Ryzom channels. Everyone must act as a polite and civilized individuals, and be respectful with WinchGate staff. Foul language and xenophobic talk are also prohibited.

The forum is a place to exchange thoughts and of debate, in a good atmosphere for discussions. Animosity and agressive behavior against Ryzom staff is not something that is tolerated. Marauder players have the chance to have a volunteer who is dedicated and responsible for Marauders, and who spends all of his free time to work for them. He has explained during an OOC meeting, what he and some Ryzom teams are working on together for Marauders, and nearly everything that has been requested on the forums by players, is exactly what he stated was in progress with the team at in his OOC meeting. Such disrespectful comments from a part of the community are just unfair and demotivating for all the staff and are unacceptable.

I have also moderated several xenophobic posts. Such a behaviour is also unacceptable in a Ryzom channel.

I invite some of you to read again the Code of Conduct of Ryzom Services and to respect it. Please consider this as a general warning to the community. For those who continue to disregard these rules, the next time it will be more than a warning.

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#36 Added by Naema 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Lacuna

The higher occs should be availble to Mara in camp. We are talking game mechanics here - why should one faction be excluded from game content without being given something else as compensation.

I don't have a problem witht that, exclusion of one block of players when compensated for something else can be fun. As I mentioned, The Rangers home base is in Alamati, if the Marauders need to go there too, then perhaps a 'Pathway' CAN be discovered Lore-wise. Or, give them something else that is equal. I also do not agree that marauders should have to go to a kara or kami temple, nor a NH guy to get to alamati.

Lacuna

or give us something else that other factions cannot have.

The same. You said it first.

Lacuna

We are mara we don't take handouts from simple minded homins that worship stuffed furry animals, or a ........Dancer :P

My apologies for what I said, I see it was edited, I was simply quoting this statement. Please edit this above too.

#37 Added by Lacuna 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Naema

My apologies for what I said, I see it was edited, I was simply quoting this statement. Please edit this above too.

I can't remember what you wrote Naema, but I fail to see how what I wrote was offensive. The original is still there. Making an In Character insult to an 'imaginary goddess' by insinuating that she drinks too much and wraps herself round a pole is not xenophobic etc. Ok it is xenophobic BUT the Ryzom is now all abut RACE hatred and religious wars!

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#38 Added by Bones 9 years ago Report | Quote Multilingual

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Geez, I know society is becoming overly sensitive but did it really jump over to respecting imaginary gods? LOL is all I have to say to that. I am offended that YOU people think Marauders are evil. My point of view is the reverse so you are evil.
I don't need your approval to recognize my people as a nation, I am a Marauder.

#39 Added by Lacuna 9 years ago Report | Quote Multilingual

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Naema

Lacuna
We are mara we don't take handouts from simple minded homins that worship stuffed furry animals, or a ........Dancer :P

My apologies for what I said, I see it was edited, I was simply quoting this statement. Please edit this above too.

For the record Naema, it was not me that was offensive, or abusive, etc, I checked. It was you! It was not my quotation that was censored in post 24, but your own words. I am extremely annoyed that you would blame me, saying that you were only quoting me, and you then censor my quote yourself, in post 36, thus making it look like I was the one that was abusive! If you want evidence, you can see that my original post has not been edited. Whatever was censored by Tamarea was your own words not mine! Shame on you!

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