Atys Weather Pattrns - Forage - TECHNICAL SUPPORT / WEB APPs BUGS

#20 Added by Talkirc 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

i have no reason to object to a game being a challenge, but as slor said, it should not be irritating.

i like that they tried to give the weather system complication but the issue i think is that there are too many options as it is. some are saying that there are 3 options; while others say that it's a slide scale from 0 to 1 in .1 or .01 increments. this is too complex for a SANDBOX game if it's more like the latter. while the 3 options format would be reasonable and that would give a 1 in 3 chance of being right, where as the .1 increment would be 1 in 10 and the .01 would be 1 in 100, those would be rather extream in the case of night mat's that are only up for a very short amount of time IRL.

just my 2 dappers again.

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#21 Added by Bubbason 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Another instance of how weather is clearly way off mark.

Digging Excel Motega in void, I can see it's dark and raining and the in game map shows weather as Thundery. But BMsite site says best and 0.000. Obvioulsy nodes won't pop and are weathered.

Not grumbling, merely suggesting that something obvioulsy isn't right somwhere.

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#22 Added by Bitttymacod 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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but dark and thundery is just when the exe beng amber pops.

As I have stated before and confirmed time and time again. "good" is not the same for all materials! The digging weather on Karu's site is related to the server, but we aren't totally sure what the variable is.

There are two separate problems with weather. One is that the animation and weather report differ from client to client depending on the OS. The other is that the animation and weather report are inconsistently linked to the variable that determines whether a specific material pops or not.

Given how long these problems have been around I doubt that they are susceptible to easy fixes.

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#23 Added by Lacuna 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Afriel (atys)

I dunno if this will help.

I usually use the following for my weather pattern specially in Prime Roots:

Pattern 1 combo: Fair (Windy,Fair,Sap) + time (am,pm)
Pattern 2 combe: Sap (Windy,Fair,Sap) + time (am,pm)

example:
Fair Windy am
Fair Fair am
Fair Sap am

I use the above pattern since there are 2 weather in Prime Root (Fair,Sap) and also I don't know programming so I can not decode the source code of Rzyom even if it is available. Windy,Fair,Sap are weather effects in Prime Roots (my observation I don't know if we have same weather effects).

How do I use my pattern:
Prospect using the above pattern combo until I got the desired output and mark my map according to the pattern combo and the grade of the mats.

example:
Zun FWAS, FFAE

FWAS = Fair Windy AM Supreme will pop
FFAE = Fair Fair AM Excellent will pop

note: I still use bmsite for the availability of the mats in every season since I never include it in my map marking.

You can think of there being 4 weather patterns in PR for non-SN sups:
2 season sups pop from Best to Good
4 season sups pop at worst and above
The other 2 weathers correspond to 1 season sups.
One, and only one, weather type is always up, if you know the weather type you know which sups will pop (if not depleted).

LoC and US sup zun pop at worst, and SCi and FD pop at best to good.

Map and on screen weather are a mess, but there is also the possibility that onscreen and map weather were only intended to be a clue that mats could pop at this time, not that they would 100%. BM weather seems to be informantion that players were never intended have access to.

Last edited by Lacuna (9 years ago)

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#24 Added by Talkirc 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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i guess i'm crazy cause i've never seen anything on the bm site that says anything about weather (anyone want to provide a link?), but i have seen something on the armory, not that that helps in regard.

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#25 Added by Snarfster 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Had the same question, I'm guessing it's one of the apps that you can use with Ryzom. Will check tonight.

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#26 Added by Bubbason 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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'Dark and thundery is when amber pops' is a completely useless response to a Homin that's digging Motega (or am i missing the point?)

Link to BMsite weather is here http://ballisticmystix.net/?p=atys_calendar - At the bottom click 'Weather Graph' and you'll see the various weather patterns.

Off to dig some dark thundery amber :P

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#27 Added by Lacuna 9 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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All weather on screen is completely useless, so yap, you are missing the point, Bubba :P

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#28 Added by Binarabi 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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bumped

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