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Well Virg all they gonna end up with is less and less ppl going to the pvp maps except in big enough groups to not get killed (so no fair pvp there or none at all), and at op wars it's not gonna be 20vs80 but 20vs160 because then every homin in the game is gonna want to kill them.

It is a genuine shame you can't see beyond your own self. I hope someday you release that with such an aggressive attitude you will just drive players away from PvP instead of trying to bring them towards it. My reason for posting on this thread is because I enjoy PvP and want to see as many people as possible joining in. If you get players involved then you can kill them more times when they start tagging up. If you kill a player once then start insulting their "etiquette" when you clearly display none yourself they won't start tagging up and you will only be able to kill them that once.

Please think of the bigger picture here.

Well GKR maybe I choose my words wrong but true it's for everyone doing it that is putting of others from even thinking about doing pvp (kami/kara/mara/...). Do not forget if you make one person angry and never go down to the pvp maps then all ppl that person in future recruits to his guild might end up with the same idea inprinted by that person. So putting 1 person of pvp might end up putting 20+ ppl in future from it.

I myself am a mara, I love the lore about it and when I can be online i'll take part in all mara events. But I'm never tagged (don't like being interrupted or intrupting ppl) and I don't kill ppl on PVP maps if I'm down there to bosshunt or trek. If an event would ask this from me then I would do it no questions asked but till this that day I rather play a chill homin thats here mostly for laughs and to have fun.

ps. I don't wanna say everyone has to take my playing style but thats the way I like to spend my freetime (and even some worktime) to relax instead of having to turn on the TV.

You do like to bring up season change a lot. I am not quite sure how it fits into this thread. Anyway if you do want to talk about it for some reason; the last 4 I went to the marauders had equal or more numbers than kami 3 times. The most recent one they had a bad turnout.

Nice to know I am considered the school bully but thank you for the complement about my strength! *Flexes his muscles* I do my best to promote PvP and make it fun for everyone. I consider OP wars to be fun which is one of the main reasons I remade Asylum with some friends in an attempt to start regular OP wars. I consider small group PvP also to be fun which is why I have given many lessons to others, even in opposing factions, to bring them up to speed with the current playing style so they can join in.

However I do not see ganking as positively promoting PvP. I do not contest the fact that it is legal- you are completely right in that fact. The point I am trying to make to you is that if you like PvP you should do your best to be an ambassador of it to encourage more people. I don't see the point in bringing other peoples actions into this- all I am doing is making my feelings clear on the topic at hand.

People should come prepared with PvP gear when they enter PvP zones, however not everyone does. Ganking just drives many people away from PvP. I thought as a regular PvPer you would see the bigger picture that many PvPers have left the game sadly. In the same way guilds recruit members, we as active players with PvP interests should look at promoting PvP and encouraging it. Ganking has the exact opposite effect.

I was digging in GoC this morning - tagged - and forgot to stuff bag with pvp gear, homin from kara was also digging flowers not tagged, bit later I saw he had tagged up - he waited a while (giving me time to untag) then came over and blasted one at me - I hit invul like Virg told me to - and equipped my grind 84's amps, then hit him back - by then he had timed a nice invul and by the time I had hit him twice he was ready to polish me off - Good Fun - forgotten name of guild - but well mannered about it and definitly gave me a good chance to untag/get ready - ah, was La Firme!

Good day everyone, I would like to thank you all for your input and to stop this from going further because the entire point has been lost now...

As I stated in the every initial post, it was not act of PvP that bothered me but the action and manner in which or how it was done...

Also, I will be leaving my guild as soon as I can (within a day or so) if anyone out there has an issue with my upcoming actions, it will be by my own accord and not representing any guild...

You have my name and the regions I hunt in are Nexus, AI. US, FD and pretty much all of Prime Roots including all Q220 and Q270 boss regions above ground... Feel free to come after me just do not come alone because I will not make the same mistake again...

Final note, I would like to thank those of you who understood the post (not just thanking those who agreed) and for those who did not understand or have a clue, wish you luck...

Eutrigan

Euti you have no reason to leave monks just because you have an opinion which you were judged upon, if that were true none of us would be in guilds. As regards to the manner in which you were attacked it is a shame but hopefully people will learn, and more situations like the manner in which Binarabi was attacked will become prevalent.