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very excited to see the reply tamarea.

i hope that this new single lore (if that's the plan) will do it's best to support parts of ALL servers, i'm not selfish enough to say ONLY aniro or ari or len's history is the one, as some players have here in this discussion. i'm say make one out of three, or for the better of the game and with the future in mind make a new history, anyone that's not willing to accept it is just out of luck, because if they make one lore, that's what you've got to work with, so like that idea, or don't like it, but that's the best way really, no options, just "here it is" because so long as this muli-history is around the new players won't become a part of the action, and may in fact just not play at all. (i already know of 2 players that i suggested ryzom to for the RP, but after they learned of the 3 histories and the conflicts of them, said they will not play until there's a single history, because as long as there's a conflict, the game is basically broken for NEW rp players.)

no one want's to make a compromise it seams, so i think the dev's should do what they do best and use FORCE. then we'll stop fighting with each other over who's history is right or wrong. for those that don't want to adapt to the new server, i'm sorry, i'd rather give up my little history for the better and the future of the game over all then be selfish and help doom the game because of it.

like it or don't but best thing would be the dev's make new history for the new signal server, because there's only one server now ppl, get used to it, and adapt to it, or move to another game, i honest am really tired of seeing everyone be selfish and demand that they're right and other's are wrong, i say your ALL WRONG, simply because your all too stubborn to adapt to a ever changing world we call ryzom.

that's my final rant on this, i've tried and tried to show that we can work together, but there's a few ppl that just are not willing to, and it's that stubbornness that's killing ryzom's rp, keeping so many that might join in away to start with.

enlighten yourself, be more flexible, bottom line is your all promoting the death of ryzom RP when you can't see past the nose on your face and work together in a game we all love together, for the better of the game, not one's personal history.

ok i'm done wasting my keystrokes.

PLEASE RYZOM DEVELOPERS CREATE A SINGLE NEW HISTORY THAT EVERYONE MUST USE, OR THE ROLEPLAY IS DOOMED, SINCE THE PLAYERS CAN'T AGREE TO WORK TOGETHER, THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION LEFT TO EXPLORE. (anyone that doesn't like that doesn't have to RP on the new server, because this is the same selfish point of view some of you display, i can start over, it won't kill me, in fact that will give my RP a whole new life)

sorry tamarea, didn't mean to go off on a rant, but it seams to me that there's really only one option left at this point to settle all issues, create a totally new history for the new server, and rp will start over new as well.

Talkirc, I disagree to such a solution. It reminds me to the proverb that for every problem a solution exists that is obvious, simple .. and plain wrong.

I would not say that I would stop roleplay altogether when our past will be genocided in favor of a unified history. But much of the fun will be gone when much of our experiences will be nullified and in effect banned.

I am living in Germany where people experienced an imposed (though by most initially enthusiastically welcomed) unification of very different cultures. Nowadays not few are pretty fed up. Forced levelling will most probably not do much good.

only 1mil dappers if you wanna buy talkirc's rant about this in teamspeak. The file can be delivered as an *.wav *.mp3 *.ogg ...

now you see the point i'm making daomei, you don't like my idea, joe doesn't like bob's idea, tim doesn't like alex's idea, and so on and so forth.

i'm not saying you have to like it, but i just wish they would do it, so everyone could stop fighting about it, since YOU are one of the players not willing to change, you are one of the players that's the reason we need a forced history. be more flexible and then we won't need a forced history, but since that will never happen, the only option left is to force a single history, if that means that you stop your RP, i'm sorry you feel that way, but it just further show's that your unwilling to yeild to the greater good, for you "the needs of the ONE out weight the needs of the many" i guess.

50mil dapper for a recording about talkirc's last reply here but it has to be the longest rant ever I recorded from him

That is wonderful news!

I can say one thing: there are players here who have dedicated considerable parts of their lives, in this world, and partially even in RL, to become part of the history of the living planet, to have taken part in shaping it and to become part of the memories of future player generations.

Destroying that and levelling it to a makeshift unified history deprives not only those players the fruits of their efforts, but make Atys more alike mainstream games with imposed storylines to which the players have to adapt. That is btw what I hated in Guildwars and made me decide never to touch GW2. I want to play and not to be played with.

I am not totally astonished (sorry Talkirc) that someone who does not bother to contribute to the reconstruction of the camps in our new world does not understand why it is important for those who put huge efforts in shaping the previous history of Atys, be it in saving sharükos Dexton's life or not, in averting or fighting the Matis/Fyros war, be it at the winning side or not, or having played a role in the old temple wars, that their lives on the bark do not become worthless and forcibly rewritten no matter what they did, what they felt.

I am right now putting efforts in influencing our future, be it concerning the camps, or my faction in state of nascence. It is exhausting at times, but I still consider it worth while. My energy and motivation will surely not increase when I recognize that such efforts are not taken serious.

comedy daomei, i do care, i do shape the world, but UNLIKE you, i can accept the change to make the game better for the future. if i have to give up my history, which isn't wrote in stone, so be, it, bottom line, your being selfish becasue your not willing to grow with the game like your claiming, to evolve is to move from one point to another, and guess what, that's exactly what merging the histories would have done, but your not willing to at least try, so enjoy your history, one day you may be the only one playing with it becasue the role play community may die because of your stubborn point of view about how your way is the only right way.

one server, one history, want 3 histories, why don't you, daomei, pay for the other two servers and the admins to run them, they you can have all 3 and keep them seperate. and you can selfishly keep your "correct" history as you see it.

and please don't tell me that i don't take part, while it's not my only reason to play, i do indeed shape the world, but since 90% of the RP doesn't lead to anything but talk and stories, no real actuall content (save for the camp building) then nothing major is lost by building that single history.

but i'm done wasting my time trying to explain to you that being closed minding and saying "i'm the only one with the right history" is going to hurt the game and RP community.

don't like my idea that's fine, i'll respect that, but i dont' have to like it or agree.

doesn't mean that i won't still be there to help you in game.

in the end i'm a homin that helps all other homin in game, so always remember that while i'm one way on the forum i'm still very friendly and helpful in game. (even for those that dont' agree with me on the forum)

but this is where my input stops, becasue bottom line is that i'm done wasting my time, i'll create my own RP, create my own history, does that make it right or wrong, not by the design of ryzom, but for the community it does not help at all, in fact it will only make it worse.

that's all i will say, good day.

There's really no point in discussing this atm without knowing the official answer ...

My impression is that you don't understand. Ok, I can log out anytime here, start in any new world, and become part of its history.

That is indeed what you demand. I have to forget what I did in two extremely active RL years, trim it down to some artificial storyline, and believe that that was what I have done.

What is the difference to just logging out and start in another game? What does link me to what has happened here during the years before the merge?

What was unique to Ryzom as I entered it in the 6th year of its existance was that the history of all players having been there before was carved into the history of the living planet in the one or the other way, some visibly with their names inscribed in steles, some not that visibly as they had taken part in the course of events in the one or other way, as guild founders, leaders, officers, or just members, as akenak, taliari, members of the circles, nobles, vassals, or marauders, whatever.

Sure you can iron that down in some foul compromise. Most of the living history will be gone, then. And much of the confidence into promises that our contributions will be part of the history of Atys.

I shall stop here. The thing is going to be repetitive.

Talk --

The multiple backgrounds can easily be solved by the "Budapest" option that I suggested earlier. We don't need to have a united PAST -- we need to work on a united FUTURE.

Bittty -- Who is very *definitely* working on the Observation Camps both because I remember the old days and also because they represent a cooperative vision of the future.

Here is Ryzom Team's answer: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/18790/