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#21 [en] 

*Icus pins a note*

oren pyr Zoraïs,
i didn't wanted to answer again to this futile debate Zhoi started, but some things needs to be cleared. Maybe Zhoi understood the pillar of akash, even if i don't agree with that, but she definitively not understood the pillar of talen.

During the assembly, i've warned the audience about the speaking-rule, when we were speaking of the imperial turnament. I don't see how you can say we didn't tell them this. My amber cube contains the following sentences :
Icus dit : And if you aren't akenos, you aren't allowed to speak before we allow you
Icus dit : there's way too many spectator for everybody to speak in the same time

Again, after sharükos said he wanted to hear new opinions, i've asked Feylin, Luth and Salazar to share their though with us. I couldn't ask the whole assembly, but at least 3 representatives from the 3 other nation.

I don't see when i contradicted my sharükos after he said the law won't be suitable. I only said we will need to speak of the treaty because a lot of things changed since the exodus, and he agreed on this point.

To finish, i will quote one of my ancestors : "Leave the fyros business to the fyros. If there is a problem between one and sharükos, sharükos will settle it himself. sharükos does not need the help of foreigns to rule his country. The treaty says that interference in other nation isn't allowed. We aren't coming to your assembly saying you are insulting your leader or criticize your coutums. Do the same, this is elementary respect.

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#22 [en] 

Daomei reads and shrugs in disbelief.
"Icus"
Again, after sharükos said he wanted to hear new opinions, i've asked Feylin, Luth and Salazar to share their though with us. I couldn't ask the whole assembly, but at least 3 representatives from the 3 other nation.
Sharükos Lykos asked the represantants of the other nations about their views, not the whole assembly. Akenos Icus seemed to feel entitled to hand-pick the foreign ambassadors he wanted to respond and censor others. I fail to see that the sharükos wanted him to do so. At best he might have asked the foreign ambassadors whether they all wanted to respond or only one per nation. It is a disrespect to the sharükos as well as to the foreign nations when their right to express themselves is preselected and censored that way.

Daomei recalls, as other visitors of Fyros assemblies, other times and customs of the Fyros people, where everybody was accepted to speak out. That the foreign representatives had their say was self-evident.

Beneath that, the assembly location was a disgrace. Daomei has a long professional carrier as a bodyguard, protector of voyagers and guardian of treks. She was extremely shocked finding herself on a crowded balcony few inches afar from the head of the empire of the burning desert.

Daomei had come that close to the late Sharükos Dexton only once when she was honored for services rendered to the empire and the imperial family. Even then, she was the only one to come that close, and some guards and members of the burning faces guild were standing nearby, with the indifferent facial expression Daomei knew so well from her own practice, well aware that it meant utter vigilance and readiness to act immediately.

While picking on other peoples, certain fyros seem to neglect even elementary rules of security, as if the assassination of Still Wyler had never happened. Were the burning faces informed about this arrangement? Daomei cannot imagine as she knows about their dedication and professionality.

There were times when Fyros assemblies took place in the open space behind the Imperial hall. There, the Akenak placed themselves on the stage, some guards between them and the audience, Senators and members of the imperial family also took their places there. In the first row of the audience, the foreign diplomats took place, and other homins as far as the space allowed. Behind them the rest of the audience found places, without crowding and complexities.

The recent assembly place lacks functionality as well as dignity for such public events. It may be sufficient if the Akenak or other officials assemble in closed sessions. The security risks remain. The hall is a multiple story building, and it is well known that magic, and even some ranged weapon fire, may penetrate walls, especially but not exclusively vertically. While that is frowned upon or even banned in combat, an assassin will hardly be impressed by such rules.

Daomei sighs: Instead of picking on foreign nationals, it would be better for the Fyros people to care for obvious security risks.

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Daomei die Streunerin - religionsneutral, zivilisationsneutral, gildenneutral

#23 [en] 

*Zhoi again pins another note below that of Icus*

Thank you, Icus, for making clear that these words of yours meant to be an explanation of some rules or so. During the assembly at Pyr I thought this was merely a hollow phrasing to justify your personal tendency of ordering around everyone else according to your own wishes and delight as you did at the assembly. I would not have thought of this as some kind of official rule or the like at that time.

Oh, it is not "Fyros business" alone to aim to break treaties with our government, and it is not "Fyros business" alone to insult a lot of Zorais for their political customs. Which you DID. This is our business as Zorai as well, so I had to know how dangerous you really are.

I know now and by that I have reached my goal by questioning you. Well, if asking mere questions was already considered a "interference in other nation" we Zorai should best start building another Great Wall right away to avoid any kind of further contacts with every other Nation on Atys...

Rollocks DID come to the assembly of the Circles of Hoi-Cho, to disrupt it, to spout baseless insults and to refuse to remove his weapon even when asked by our Sage Sens, the brother of our Great Mask Mabreka Cho. So he had to be kicked out. His acts have shown his true colors perfectly well!

Akenos Celips DID come to the assembly of the Circles of Hoi-Cho to demand an apology before the eyes and ears of the Sage Sens for something that happened only in her imagination... Still other than that she behaved honorably and even admitted to have gone too far at one point - and this gained her a great deal of respect in my eyes.

She might be wrong in her thinking and some of her words or actions might have been unnecessarily harsh, however she does not just speak egoistically on her own self-aggrandizing behalf like you and Rollocks do. Instead she obviously mainly fights for her beloved and her Sharükos which I unwillingly have to admire.

Unfortunately she slanders me just like you and Rollocks do when falsely claiming that I insulted the Emperor and/or the Fyros people. This is not honorable, dirties your valued principle of truth, and I cannot possibly apologize to her for something that did not happen.

But... if the honored Sharükos Lykos should feel that I have insulted him or the Fyros people I will of course bend my knee willingly and apologize to him as it was definitely not my intention to offend him nor the Fyros people, and I would indeed be sincerely sorry if I had given this impression.

P.S.: the last sentences have in the end also been my answer to the official note by Ambassador Arrlon:
http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/110369
Zhoi
"if the honored Sharükos Lykos should feel that I have insulted him or the Fyros people I will of course bend my knee willingly and apologize to him as it was definitely not my intention to offend him nor the Fyros people, and I would indeed be sincerely sorry if I had given this impression."
I will of course stand true to my word, if the Sharükos himself sends for me.

However I will just ignore matters if that same apology should be demanded from me by the Akenak. ...

Let's not forget that I for my part still demand an official apology (!) for slandering and spreading false rumors about my person and acting by you, Akenos Arrlon - if the Sharükos should not feel that I had offended him and/or the Fyros as a people.

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#24 [en] 

Protocol for the (fourth) Hoï-Cho Circle Assembly on Fallenor 16th in the first cycle of Atys-Year 2572 (OOC: March 1st 2013)

Attendees:
The honored Sage Sens (Gangi Cheng-Ho), representative of the dynastic circle Initiate Zhienkao Pai-Du, Guild of Cho-general Chaoi Tii-Van, representative of Jen-Lai Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, represantative of Hoi-Cho Zhoi, "Akenos" Rollocks, Akenos Gunbra Celips, representative from Davae Filira D'Avarron, representative from Davae Filira Salazar Caradini, representative from Windemeer Taliar Chanchey Breggan, Ex-Akenak Rasaya Di Carlo, representatives from Windemeer Wasari Kealey-Abygrian, Lunamoon Lyseus, Yussif and Hekate, Lucia from Dyron, Ardaz of the guild "The Outsiders" (residents of Hoi-Cho?), Geyos of the guild Les Brasseurs d'Oflovak, resident of the Witherings Irfidel , resident of Hoi-Cho Sari Sarissa

Agenda of conference:
* renewal of the question about official buildings/institutions of the Witherings and their respective contact persons
+ renewal of the petition to build/establish an academy of Zora (first proposed on Pluvia 6th in the 2nd cycle of 2571 (OOC: January 7th 2013)
+ question about the burial-rites of the Zorai / cities of amber
* renewal of the questions about the rights to vote for official occasions and maybe "national referendums"
+ renewal of the question about the position of the coming re-erection of kitin-watchposts/-towers - done
* petition: struggle against the existing Goo (Event-proposal)
* petition: detailled phrasing of an official law against the handling/selling of Goo in the Witherings (again)
* question about the organisation NASA and their researches/handling of Goo - done for now
* fixing a date to reward 6 homins for deciphering a text concerning the Goo - done for now
* number of initiated (Zorai-loyal) guilds of Hoi-Cho: the count as of now remains 01, another two possible
* constitution of Hoi-Cho: postponed again since the Awakened Sartyrica fell ill
* question about the moving of the transporter of "to new horizons" in Zora - in progress
* support for Daeronn Cegrips and finding " stimulating" potions? Asking the Gibads (only when consented to by Min-Cho and Jen-Lai) and the Academy of Yrkanis. No actual actions will be undertaken before a permission by Min-Cho and Jen-Lai though
* Tryker: deciphering old Zorai-documents about a "treasure" in Aeden Aqueous - in progress
* Matis: question about rights to congratulate Karan Stevano (granted), question about supporting (or not) the Matis in their fight against the Marauders if needed (will see) - done for now
* messages from Min-Cho as told by the Sage Sens
* question about ambassadors for the Witherings (how many are allowed; for different nations/cities?)
* Fyros: cooperative building of wells (or not) - in progress
* Fyros: diplomatic conflicts - decided by the Sage Sens: Akenos Rollocks shall understand his ejection from the assembly of Hoi-Cho as an official reprimanding, private talk between Akenak-members and Zhoi is suggested together with a mediator before official steps will be taken
* diplomatic talk with the respected Awakened Fey-Lin Liang about a meeting of city-representatives - no date was set yet

+ question about the petition (first proposed on Pluvia 6th in the 2nd cycle of 2571 (OOC: January 7th 2013)) on the ceremony "devotional path" of Hoi-Cho concerning the second Great Swarming

The questions and petitions will this time be sent as letters to the Sages so they can take their time in deciding about their answers and that all three cities of amber can afterwards be informed exactly identically about the decisions of our respected superiors/mentors.

The represantatives of Min-Cho and Jen-Lai will be contacted by open letters on their city - notice boards to inform them about what has been proposed and said by the represantatives of Hoi-Cho. Perhaps it might prove necessary to also write personal letters and send them via izam to all of the representatives of the Shi'zui that had introduced themselves or were mentioned at the national assembly of the Great Circles in Zora.

A very detailled protocol about what has been said during the assembly, about the phrasing of petitions and questions to the Sages and layouts of other plans can be found written in the dialect of Hoi-Cho at the notice boards of Hoi-Cho itself: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/1422/225 #225

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#25 [en] 

Protocol of the Assembly of Circles of Hoi-Cho in Min-Cho on Fallenor 16th in the second cycle of Atys-Year 2572 (OOC: March 19th 2013)

Attendees:
The honored Sage Sens (Gangi Cheng-Ho), representative of the dynastic circle Initiate Zhienkao Pai-Du, the Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, representative of Jen-Lai, Initiate Astarth, representative of Min-Cho, Honorary Initiate Zhoi, representative of Hoi-Cho, Yenno, Guardian of Shadows from Min-Cho, Shangfan, Tryker, Filira Salazar Caradini, Noble and representative of Davae, Chanchey Breggan, Taliar of Windemeer, Wasari Kealey-Abygrian, member of The Free Souls from Windemeer, Seternulon, member of The Free Souls from Windemeer, Scout Daomei Lin Carthan, former Akenak Rasaya Di Carlo, Lunamoon Lyeus, member of The Free Souls from Windemeer, Guardi (Ba'Guardi Lichan), member of The Free Souls from Windemeer, Yussif, member of The Free Souls from Windemeer, Hekate, member of The Free Souls from Windemeer, Sari Sarisa, citizen of Hoi-Cho

Agenda of conference:

* prize-giving to Seternulon for his help with decoding a part of an old amber cube

* possible kitin-threats
Kitin-mounds and goo-infested Kitins in the roots and the kitin-lair - seemingly mostly harmless at the moment

* responsibilities for the regions of the Witherings and defense
The cities have decided about the distributions, still that has to be confirmed by the Sages at the next Great
assembly in Zora

* outposts for the Kami-priests
The building of outposts at the old temple-sites has started, so the priests can work more reliably from there

* dealing with the kitin-mounds and the termite-plan of the Rangers
The Sages and cities have decided to decline the plan of the Rangers to treat kitin-mounds in the Witherings with "stimulated" termites. The representatives wish to work out their own means, either botanical or magnetic, preferably by working together on this with tribes like the Gibads, the Ancient Dryads or the Siblings of the Weed

* constitution for the Witherings/the Great Circles
The constitution is in the making by the Sages and should be finished soon

* law against the handling of Goo in the Witherings
In general all cities seem to agree with such a law, the details of phrasing might still have to be discussed

* establishing an academy in Zora
Min-Cho has agreed to this plan of Hoi-Cho, Jen-Lai at least does not strongly oppose to it

* private talk about burial-rites of the Zorai with Awakened Fey-Lin Liang
In Jen-Lai a prayer for the deceased has been spoken at the ceremony for the second Great Swarming by the Awakened Fey-Lin Liang. Seemingly the dealing of dead bodies of Zorai has not been made public; it was suspected that at least the mask or else the whole body might be given to the Kami...

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#26 [en] 

Letter to the Sages:

This is what I asked our honored Council of Elders via an Izam to the Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho:

A) about public / official institutions in the jungle and the according contact persons

* the large library in Zora - is its existence known to all three cities?And is there a responsible homin who might be contacted if documents from the library are needed?
* Mabreka Cho's personal healer Tao Sian - is she well-known to everyone?
* we know of three generals of the Guild of Cho: Chan Ce-Jian (Jen-Lai), Dachi Han (Min-Cho) and Chai Tii-Van (Hoi-Cho) - are these our contact persons for the troops? Is there a commanding general perhaps for the Zorai-army?
* Scholars and researchers (like those who analyzed the goo-samples before the second Great Swarming came over us) - is there a contact-person too who would speak for those scholars and researchers?
* is there a state prison (some people like Nung Horongi have been imprisoned once I reckon)?
* are the wooden memorial stones (like behind the Kami altar in Zora) cemeteries? Are homins buried there?
* do these institutions exist anywhere in the jungle: emergency food storage, birthing centers, kindergartens, schools, universities, homeless shelters, nursing homes, theaters, museums, zoos, botanical gardens, any kind of institutions or facilities for arts and crafts, public baths (maybe a certain pond in the cities of intuition?)?

B) are there official funeral rites of us Zoraï?

C) voting rights in the Theocracy

* at the first national Assembly of the Great Circles in Zora there was one exemplary political vote - one vote per initiated guild, cast by one of their representatives. Will this continue to be our usual way for official votings or is there a possibility to establith different voting-rules?
* will there be a referendum like before for building temples in the jungle? Who would be considered as eligible to vote for this? (Or might this be decided by the work done by homins for the temples?) So can we expect an election for a possible Jena Temple?

Note: I also asked if the Zorai people or Circles will have a say when it comes to the locations of the temples, but lately there have been indicators that this will not be possible (technically, as the priests do not function so well when being placed anywhere else than at the old temple-sites).

D. fighting the Goo (event proposal)

I again suggested to the Sages the idea of the wise Awakened Sartyrica Gū Niang Yèguāngyún to officially let us fight against the existing Goo at the rims of the Witherings. A possible idea would be to start a similar research as the one when the Goo has spread before the second Great Swarming. Or to visit specific spots at the goo-edges daily to collect samples. Or to collect and deliver different types of goo (mission-materials). Or it might even be interesting to use/disrupt the Goo-sources (goo-spitting mounds) at the enemy tribes in the Witherings. Else other materials might be collected just as well, for whatever researches made by Zorai-scholars.

E. ambassador for the Zoraï theocracy

We have not yet decided about an or more official ambassador/s for the Zoraï. Is it allowed to elect more than one ambassador, like different ones for certain other nations?

F. ceremony of Hoi-Cho: memorial path for the second Great Swarming

Hoi-Cho made a suggestion for a ceremony concerning the second Great Swarming and the return to the New Lands. It was already made on 6 Pluvia in the 2nd Cycle of 2571 (OOC: January 7th 2013). In my letter to the Sages I asked them once again whether this idea would be practicably at all.

Jen Lai has already held their ceremony, Initiate Astarth as the representative of Min-Cho has personally met a Sage, but no Sage has responded to the idea of Hoi-Cho. However Hoi-Cho will need the help of officials to accomplish this ceremony…

This letter was first sent to the Sages 2 years (OOC 4 weeks) ago, the Sage Sens confirmed its receipt on Fallenor 16th in the second cycle of Atys-Year 2572 (OOC: March 19th 2013).

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#27 [en] 

Protocol for the second National Assembly of the Great Circles in Zora on Fallenor 15th in the third cycle of Atys-Year 2572 (OOC: April 6th 2013)

After the good news that Initiate Astarth, representative of Min-Cho has passed the test for Enlightenment and is now an Awakened, a list of topics for the National Assembly was put together by the Sages and representatives mentioning the topics they wished to talk about.

Dynastic Circle
* distribution of regions of the Witherings amongst the amber cities
The representatives of the three cities have agreed to the following solution:
- Jen-Lai will be responsible for the regions Knot of Dementia and Maiden Grove
- Min-Cho will take care of Cities of Intuition and the Grove of Umbra
- Hoi-Cho will take responsibility for the Void, except for the Gibads, and the Haven of Purity
- however Min-Cho will be responsible for relations with the tribe Tutors, while Hoi-Cho will take care of the Black Circle

* constitution for the Witherings
The constitution of the Theocracy might already be finished and presented at the next National Assembly.

* election of Ambassadors
No agreement has been reached for this topic as of yet. No representatives from Min-Cho were present until the end of the Assembly either. So the election of official Ambassadors had to be postponed. The Sage Sens suggested to ask for volunteers in the regional assemblies; and the sages will collect a list of all volunteers.

Circle of Reconstruction:
* founding of an Academy
While Hoi-Cho has requested an Academy in Zora and Min-Cho has agreed to that. The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang mentioned instead that something like this might already exist. She has already written a letter to ask Lingi Chon-Vao, curator of the Archives of Jen-Lai. The Sages plan to invite her to the next assembly. There have always been libraries, scientists and scholars in the Witherings. Also other tribes in the Witherings have scholars.

The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho shared his thoughts that an Academy could work like a central council for all of these institutions that are now in disorder after the return from the Exodus after the Second Great Swarming. It might also be mentioned that other residents of Jen-Lai have voiced doubts about researches about Goo there, which Awakened Astarth has on the contrary especially suggested to be made at this planned Academy.

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#28 [en] 

* public information board in Zora
The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang has asked for either a notice board or an herold who would inform interested homins about local evenst like the ceremonies for the Second Great Swarming or the seasonal endowment of Jen-Lai. The Awakened stated that she did not mean notice boards explaining the political systems, most important laws and political guilds like those that have been put up long ago in all capitals.

The Sage Sens explained that it would be possible to install a sign that could be updated by the representatives of the three cities and such would should show all important notifications for the Witherings. Fey-Lin Liang wished for this sign to be put up between the stables and the trainers. The representatives will be informed via Izam if and when this sign can be made by carpenters of Zora.

* transporter of New Horizons in Zora
The Tryker-company "To New Horizons" wished to know where their transporter should be placed since a relocation had been asked of them. The original request by Hoi-Cho has been to move it "close to the stables" of Zora. This time a location between the stables and the south entrance was suggested because of good visiblity for newcomers and the notice-board that will be put up between trainers and stables. The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho decided that the functionaries of the Dynastic Circle shall choose a suitable location close to the stables.

* list of public institutions
The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho wished to know the reasons to get a list of public institutions that my humble self has requested. A list of possible institutions has been sent to the Sages and also made public by open letters for some Atys-years already. Still the Sage mentioned that some things would be touching private documents of the administration. So my humble self gave my reasons: so that all three cities would have the same informations about these institutions that might formerly have been different for all of us.

The contact persons of these institutions should be known to all of the cities to be able to communicate with them properly via izam or invitation to assemblies. Also other countries would surely benefit from this knowledge, just like our representatives have also written letters to the Academies of Pyr in the past for instance. It might not be bad to put informations like these on the notice boards in the future too like the Fyros once had.
http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_FyrosGovOrg

The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho said that he will forward this request - but without any guarantees that all existing institutions can be listed because some of them are still reorganizing after the Second Exodus.

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#29 [en] 

* voting rights
At national assemblies political agreements up until now were reached by voting amongst representatives of all initiated Shizu (guilds) or similar in the Witherings - one represantative for each guild having one vote. The Amazons Mysticia, who are Hamazans living in Maiden Grove, have stated that they do not wish to have voting rights for "Zorai-affairs", however they are able to talk about their concerns to the city-circles of Jen-Lai.

There might or might not be different types of elections for special topics like the building of temples in the future, maybe popular votes. The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang stated that (in her opinion) the Sages might ask for all the initiate's opinion if they will consider it wise; while my humble self asked to think this over well, since there could be deceptions; and established non-initiated inhabitants of the Witherings might be left out.

Circle of Spirituality:

* outpost for the Kami Priests
The outpost for the Kami Priests has been finished at the location of the former Sanctuary of Ma-Duk and the Kami Priests are now located there. The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho thanked all who contributed to make this building possible. It seems that many Fyros have also helped to achieve this goal, so the Sages whished for the Zorai people to remember this "bond in Kamism".

* burial-/funeral-rites of the Zorai
Since no official documents about this topic have been be discovered Hoi-Cho has decided to ask the Sages about this topic. Once again the Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho enquired about the background of the question. Several reasons were mentioned: to be able to talk about our rites for the deceased amongst us Zorai based on the same informations for all of the cities, for a proper ceremony for the homins who died during the Second Great Swarming, and to know more about the function of the wooden memorial-stones in each amber city (cemetries?).

The Sage Sens held out the prospect of inviting an expert about this topic or maybe present a document about it later on.

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#30 [en] 

Circle of Exploration:

* law against the Goo

A draft for a law against the handling of Goo has been made public a longer while ago , and Min-Cho has agreed to this. Jen-Lai agrees with such a law but has some conditions: the law should not reduce the value of preservation of nature and Atys, that shall prevail on this law. One phrasing of the old Treaty of four Nations might have stated that there should be no restrictions for transport neither for homins nor for goods.

(OOC: as feared it was phrased differently on Leanon and Arispotle though: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/16969/2)
The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang also mentioned other treaties amongst the nations that were agreed upon later on that are not widely known and might have been made in private between certain political groups or leaders (OOC: different server-histories here!).

To err on the side of caution the Awakened suggested that the law should specify that Goo and anything corrupted by it should not be considered as a "good". This was considered a very good solution. The Goo as a part of the nothingness and a disease should not be considered a "good". The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang was asked to work out a phrasing for both of the additions that Jen-Lai has wished for. She would rather have another volunteer Initiate work on this though.

* fight against the Goo

The Awakened Sartyrica has wanted to make it possible for every interested homin and especially Zorai to help fighting the existing Goo in the Witherings. The basic idea would be to have homins collect Goo or Goo-infected materials and have them give it to an official gatherer in Zora, maybe to get titles from this. Goo that is usually harvested for Kami-missions could be given to this gatherer. Goo could be collected at a number of special spots at the rims of the Witherings on a daily basis. Goo-mounds of tribes could be reduced by chipping parts off. Also other actions could be performed to help with reducing the Goo at the rims of Atys.

The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang also wished to inform people about how to handle Goo without risking a contamination. This could also be mentioned within the law against handling with Goo. The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho stated that Goo can be destroyed by homins using fire and fire-magic that Kami cannot use since it destroys sap. ("Destroying" goo-mission-materials counts as goo-destruction in the opinion of the Sage. And there are plans about events that will again offer possibilities to act against the goo.)

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#31 [en] 

Circle of Defense:

* plans concerning the kintin-mounds and -tunnels

The Rangers still pursue their plans of searching for usable termites and brewing potions to stimulate them into eating the remains of the kitin-mounds of the second Great Swarming and the kitin-tunnels underneath. The Rangers said that they are in contact with the governments of all nations and already know of the Zorai being against testing their solutions in the Witherings. The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang voiced her disappointment about the behaviour of the Rangers towards the worries of the Zorai.

The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho mentioned that he hadn't received any letters concerning this topic. The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang has translated a letter of the Awakened Astarth to master Gioi Qiai-Zhan of the Order of Magnetism in Jen-Lai, asking about magnetic means to deal with kitin-mounds and -tunnels. My humble self suggested to talk with Master Reka who teaches magnetic cartography on the same day a delegation of the Zorai will visit the Gibads to ask about their suggestions about how to close the kitin-tunnels. The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang also wished to ask tribes in the Verdant Heights: the Ancient Dryads and the Siblings of the Weed.

Scout Daomei Lin Carthan spoke up, claiming that the Atys Rangers should not be demonized, since they would never act on the territory of any nation without their consent. She also seemed unhappy about the arguments of Fey-Lin Liang against using termites because of the eliquilibrium of nature and that termites should not be treated as mere test subjects. Daomei warned the Zorai that the Witherings might be the only or last nation left with intact kitin-tunnels if the Rangers succeed with their plan first which might put the jungle at risk.

The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang opined that a meeting with the Gibads has to be prepared, which my humble self disagreed with. Especially since the Awakened stated to not need any preparations to meet with the Ancient Dryads and Siblings of the Weed all by herself. My humble self wished for all homins interested in this topic to accompany the Awakened Fey-Lin Liang and to be able to meet with these tribes as well. The two tribes in the Verdant Heights could at least be visited by the search party for an abducted Initiate on their way.

In the end the Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho decided to wait for a reply by master Gioi Qiai-Zhan of the Magnetic Order of Jen-Lai first of all, and also to contact the tribes in question to ask them for an official visit. The tribes shall then propose dates for visits according to their own schedules.

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#32 [en] 

* order of assemblies

There have been different complications and also complaints concerning the timing of assemblies. In general more time or assemblies for national and less for regional topics have been proposed. Some homins have even lamented about too many assemblies on Atys overall. The long running time of national assemblies has been criticized likewise. The representatives agreed about too many national matters being discussed at regional assemblies. And some inhabitants of Min-Cho wished to gather at different times of the day altogether, maybe at special assemblies without one of the Sages attending if there should be no other way to solve this matter.

Initiate Indobi was asked to name a suiting date and time for those inhabitants of Min-Cho who cannot attend assemblies at the current schedules. The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang wished to have a known agenda and an orator being named for the Circles. Initiate Karrael proposed to set time limits to assemblies which would lead to postponing even more topics than as of now. My humble self suggested to solve regional matters during only a short period of time first and to have a national assembly afterwards - every time, but less often. Extraordinary assemblies could be added for regional matters only if needed. Instead of that the Awakened Fey-Lin Liang proposed an order of one national assembly, then one local, one national again and so on.

Assemblies would be briefer if problems were solved faster instead of being repeated at every assembly and dragged on, piling up by that. My humble self suggested to make use of open letters to reach agreements faster; but the Awakened Fey-Lin Liang stated that letters pose other problems. She did not explain what kind of problems she was referring to though. The reason for the refusal of some representatives to answer to open letters kept being unclear as well. Especially those who often cannot attend assemblies and would benefit most by using other opportunities to state their opinions. There was no suggestion of any alternatives nor improvements for communications amongst the cities outside of assemblies.

In the end an agreement was met to have a national assembly at the next date instead of a regional one, even though Jen-Lai still has regional matters to solve that had to be postponed lately. The Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho announced to discuss this with the other Sages as they might have suggestions.

With that the second National Assembly of the Great Circles ended.

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#33 [en] 

Protocol for the Assembly of the Great Circles in Zora on Fallenor 15th in the fourth cycle of AtysYear 2572 (OOC: April 24th 2013)

Attendents:
Sage Sens / Gangi Cheng-Ho
Awakened Fey-Lin Liang
Awakened Fitis
Initiate Valandrine
Initiate Paolen
Initiate Altamira
Initiate Etoo
Honorary Initiate Zhoi
Tokoose of Guardians of Shadows
Nydoikoth of Clan Sckinock
Filira Salazar Caradini from Davae
Taliar Kaaon
Zendae of Amazons Mysticia
Phaozhu of Amazons Mysticia
Thalys of Amazons Mysticia
Mahija, Zorai from Windemeer
Wasari from Windemeer
Seternulon from Windemeer
Atys-Citizen Daomei
Diwu of Dark Cloud
Mjollren, Officer of Fluffy Bunnies
Bingfa, Tryker-burgess
Varox of Graines de Kami
Senzhu, Zorai
Sari, inhabitant of Hoi-Cho

Topics:
* rules for assemblies
* order of assemblies
* election of ambassadors
* kitin-mounds and rangers
* Goo-opening in the Almati Wood's Kitin Lair leading to the Blackmoors - postponed
* Goo-infested Igaras in the Upper Bog in the Verdant Heights - postponed

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#34 [en] 

There was no news from the Sages nor from the Dynastic Circle about a number of requests:

* founding an Academy in Zora:
The Sage Sens planned to ask existing institutions, scholars and scientists of the Witherings if they would like to have or establish an Academy that would like a central council for them

* putting up a sign board in Zora:
The Sage Sens has agreed to ask carpenters about the possibility to establish a public information board that could be used by representatives of the city could use to announce informations about events and the like between the stables and the trainers

* a new spot for "to new Horizons" in Zora:
The functionaries of the Dynastic Circle were assigned to decide about a new place for the transporter of the Tryker-company "to New Horizons" in Zora to be move to, preferably close to the stables

* list of public institutions and according contact persons of the Witherings:
The Sage Sens has agreed to forward this request but cannot promise that this list can contain all institutions in existance since some of the are still reorganising. A list of suggestion about possible institutions has repeatedly being posted on the boards and written in a letter to the Sages and Dynastic Circle

* burial-rites of the Zorai and the meaning of the "cemetries":
The Sages wanted to see if either an expert explaining the traditions of the Zorai to tend to the deceased could be invited to a future Assembly of the Circles or perhaps documents can be presented

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#35 [en] 

No news from the Sages nor from the Dynastic Circle about these requests as well:

* law against the handling with Goo:
The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang wanted two additions to be made to the Goo-law. One should state that Goo is not to be seen as a "good" nor "ware" to be handled or transported by merchants. The other one was supposed to somehow point out that the law "cannot not be reducing the value of Preservation of Nature and Atys, which shall prevail on this law". Unfortunately the Awakened did not have the time to add this article herself yet nor to answer my question about a suggestion how to phrase this addition. There was also a suggestion to inform people how to handle Goo without risking contamination

* fighting the Goo in the Witherings:
A request was addressed to the Sages to enable homins and Zorai to reward actions against the Goo, like the existing Goo at the rims of the Witherings, examples for how and where to fight Goo were particularized

* meeting with the tribes Ancient Dryads, Gibads and Siblings of the Weed and the order of magnetism
The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang has written a letter to the two tribes in the Verdant Heights as well as to Master Gioi Qiai-zhan, to set dates for visiting them. Another letter was sent to the Gibads since personal visits during regular patrols did not lead to them agreeing on a date for a visit

* ceremonies about the second Great Swarming of Min-Cho and Hoi-Cho:
Min-Cho's Awakened Astarth has planned to meet with one of the Sages (most likely Saison/Season) to plan their city's ceremony. Hoi-Cho has suggested a ceremony on Pluvia 6th in the third cycle of AtysYear 2571 (January 25th 2013) and since then reminded the Sages twice about this matter by sending Izams and also mentioning it at the last Assembly

* constitution of the Theocracy
A new constitution for our Nation is in the making by the Sages, the article about voting-rights at Assemblies was specified as a last topic. The Sage Sens has planned to send all representative of the Circles a draft thereof

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