#16 Added by Gunbra 1 decade ago
Dear zorai peopleDuring our last assembly in pyr, we (akenak Icus, akenak Rollocks and myself, akenak Gunbra) had an argument with your representative ambassador Zhoi.The griefs we have:1) During the assembly, ambassador was making a laugh toward akenak Icus. I don't think it's the way that zorais do politics, but maybe I'm wrong. An ambassador coming and insulting our representatives not in front of them is not the best way to gain respect. If she had something to say, she could ask to speak, and confront Icus openly. We fyros dislike snake tongues, and I expect from an ambassador to understand that.2) After the assembly, the ambassador provoked us again by insulting both our akenak Icus and our beloved sharükos Lykos.3) It's not the place of any ambassadors to learn us how to speak and how to show our loyalty to our sharükos. This point is between us and our sharükos! The sharükos ask us to counsel him, and it is our duty to say what we have to say until he made his decision! I understand that you made a mistake by sending someone who can't obviously understand our people, our ways and our traditions. But by insulting us first, the ambassador Zhoi lost all respect that could a guest receive. All we have seen, is an ambassador coming with insults in her mouth and waiting to be treated as a queen. Even the matis ambassador was less arrogant, usually it is their manners.But I don't see ambassador Zhois's mistake as a mistake of the Zoraï people. I always considered you as friends and will continue this way. I have some great respect in your people, and some very good friends.Finally, I admit that I lost my temper, and this is my shame. Responding to your ambassador's insulting was maybe not the best I could do. Ignores her would have been more appropriate.But I will continue to consider her as a disrespectful guest, as long as she doesn't present apologies.With my best messagesAkenos Gunbra Celips
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#18 Added by Gunbra 1 decade ago
Dear Zhoi,You persist once again in your ignorance of our traditions. In the fyros assemblies the only one who ara authorized to speak are the akenak, the senators and the sharükos. each other homins wishing to speak need to raise his hand and wait until one of the akenak, senators or the sharükos himself of course.Obviously, when someone break this simple and very common law, we will never respond to him. If you think that as a Zoraï representative you worth better than our traditions, that respecting them is a problem, you are definitely not welcome at pyr and one of the worst ambassador I ever seen, besides the matis.Icus has never against the sharükos will. He has given our point of view, and the sharükos has made his decision. More we usually choose an akenak to lead the assembly, giving the right to speak to those who requested it, giving the subjects and launching the votes. We think it is more practical and don't see the point of an ambassador laughing at it. You wrote: "You know very well that I merely asked questions about the relation between Icus and the honored Sharükos Lykos". Yes I know. And I know too that it is none of your business. I strongly disapproves stranger coming to teach us how to speak during our official assemblies. And if you really wanted to, you could have done this more politely, rather than accusing Icus to be "self-confindent" and if he "aspires to be the next Emperor". That is not a polite asking, that is an attack!All ambassadors are welcome to Pyr, but they need to follow our traditions. You just acted as if you, as a Zorai representives, we need to accept your way of doing this. As long as you are in our lands, you need to follow our laws and ways.Gunbra CelipsAkenos of Thesos
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#21 Added by Icus 1 decade ago
Icus dit : And if you aren't akenos, you aren't allowed to speak before we allow youIcus dit : there's way too many spectator for everybody to speak in the same time
#22 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago
Again, after sharükos said he wanted to hear new opinions, i've asked Feylin, Luth and Salazar to share their though with us. I couldn't ask the whole assembly, but at least 3 representatives from the 3 other nation.
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#23 Added by Zhoi 1 decade ago
"if the honored Sharükos Lykos should feel that I have insulted him or the Fyros people I will of course bend my knee willingly and apologize to him as it was definitely not my intention to offend him nor the Fyros people, and I would indeed be sincerely sorry if I had given this impression."I will of course stand true to my word, if the Sharükos himself sends for me. However I will just ignore matters if that same apology should be demanded from me by the Akenak. ...Let's not forget that I for my part still demand an official apology (!) for slandering and spreading false rumors about my person and acting by you, Akenos Arrlon - if the Sharükos should not feel that I had offended him and/or the Fyros as a people.
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