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#91 Added by Kalean 6 years ago [en]

Bitttymacod (atys)

Kalean (atys)
The problem is that many new players buy upgrades without knowing how to use it, just because it's cheaper than buying an action. But buying an upgrade doesn't update your actions automatically, you have to edit actions yourself to include the new upgrade. A pop-up should explain that fact when someone is about to buy an upgrade.

Kalean -- If you look at the Upgrade the description says exactly that.

No, the description doesn't explain that you have to edit actions yourself in order to use the upgrade. It just says the upgrade is a brick, and let's be honest that is not clear at all for someone who doesn't know the game. This system is very different from other games, this is normal that new players get confused.
I was thinking about a pop-up with more details about how to edit actions.There is a pop up like this that appear during missions, it should appear when someone buy an upgrade for the firs time.

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#92 Added by Talkirc 6 years ago [en]

as other's as well as myself have said, if they do all of the missions in silan and read what the npc's tell them, it's all explained there how to edit and such, however, i do understand now what your saying, and as a safeguard for players that do not complete all of silan i could see where a pop-up would help them to understand how to use the upgrade and what is required, but i can also see how another pop up could be an issue with players such as ourselves, given that we know how to do the edit and balance a stanza manually on our own, for those of us, we might get a little frustrated if the pop up required any interactions from the player, like clicking "ok" to remove the pop up to ensure it was read, which rolls right back around to paying attention in silan and doing everything there to learn it in the "training" sandbox. so it seams as i type this it's still about learning the game at the start of it, in silan, where these things are all explained by an NPC. note my quote about the cookie, if they don't read and do in silan, they are going to find that insted of a slap, it will be an all out beating.

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#93 Added by Naema 6 years ago [en]

On my previous post #69, forget what i said about 'Free look,' i found i use it pretty frequently, so dont get rid of it, lol. But i still stand by the scroll down bar on macros that get big, like a boss macro, your work around didnt work Bittty, sorry, i have a mac and am having problems finding files let alone doing something with a text editor or termial. I am not a programmer, :-). plus, i also want scaleable craft window and even a scaleable radar would be cool

#94 Added by Mjollren 6 years ago [en]

After countless persons attempting to communicate with Chiang using English Uni (saying their name etc), maybe it's time to make that chat by default attached to the other chat windows? As opposed to standing in the middle of the screen, as it is now.

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#95 Added by Sieges 6 years ago [en]

What about binding "Quartering" and "Take All" to a single key? We can press space-bar to target the next mob, maybe we could have another key that would loot and take everything that would fit in our pack automatically.

#96 Added by Bitttymacod 6 years ago [en]

Sieges -- the fact that we have to click and collect is a design feature, not a bug. It helps reduce botting.

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#97 Added by Talkirc 6 years ago [en]

botting, with such a small player base (vs WoW and other mmo's) i don't think is really a major issue, furthermore, you could call an alt a bot, though you have to input the commands to that alt, where a bot is programed to do a set action.

i think botting would be an issue if this WAS NOT a sandbox game, and honestly, i can't see how "player a" using a bot would hurt "player b" since i've never seen or known of a pvp bot.

but this is just my random thoughts here :)

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#98 Added by Rashiid 6 years ago [de]

Talkirc (atys)

botting, with such a small player base (vs WoW and other mmo's) i don't think is really a major issue

No need to make it easier, though :) Playing in a game where power-levellers just have their computer scripts level for them would not be fun. It's (supposed to be) a Massive Multiplayer game, not a massive multi-script game ;)

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#99 Added by Suboxide 6 years ago [en]

Just add more roaming mobs that are agro and hard and ppl won't be able to bot or camp

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#100 Added by Canya 6 years ago [en]

+1 to suboxides idea

#101 Added by Anulian 5 years ago [en]

2 ideas, both involve adding optional parameters to chat commands
Emotes: using /wave as an example: it would be great if I could type "/wave alice bob" and it would ignore whatever I had targeted and show "Anulian waves at Alice and Bob" would appear and my toon would make the relevant gesture if possible.

/follow: It would be really useful if I could specify what I was following instead of it always following my target
(also, I can think of a few reasons why it isn't done like this but there have been times I've really wished that "/follow" used the same routing algorithm as mektoubs, particularly when I've needed a bio break during a trek through PR)

#102 Added by Mjollren 5 years ago [en]

+5000 re: routing algorithm. Sucks getting stuck in every damn bush out there.

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#103 Added by Bitttymacod 5 years ago [en]

Anulian -- I'm not sure that your ideas count as "interface woes" (i.e. bugs or interface ideas). You might want to write them up in the Ideas section of the Forums, and since there are two ideas, it should be in two threads.

By the way, your first idea can be done as a macro if it is always the same "Alice" and "Bob" (like guildmates). You could also set it up to wave at the #1 and #2 members of your team. However, I strongly doubt that it will be implemented as an idea since programming it would be a real pisser.

The problem is that currently the parser for the emote commands interprets any text following the /emote to be part of what you want to say:

Right now I can type "/wave Alice and Bob" and the parser will present: Bitttymacod Alice and Bob in the chat window while my toon executes the wave animation. The same functionality allows me to aggressively wave at Alice by executing the following:
/tar Alice
/alert waves to $t$
That causes me to do the "alert" animation while facing Alice and echoes in the chat:
Bitttymacod waves to Alice

The problem then would be how to tell the parser that text following the /emote portion represents potential targets rather than plain text. I'm sure it can be done: I'm not at all sure that the programming team will think that it's worth it.

P.S. More tokens are possible in /emote commands, including the generic /em. See: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/3464/1#1 . Keep in mind that the posting was some years ago and not all features announced therein are still implemented. (All the emote functions are.)

Last edited by Bitttymacod (5 years ago)

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#104 Added by Suboxide 5 years ago [en]

not helpfull but you can also do something like this:

You target Alice and you 'hope' Alice targets Bob
then you do:

/wave waves to $t$ and $t.t$
=> Result would be: "Suboxide waves to Alice and Bob" + wave animation

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Adaptation from "I have a dream" by "Martin Luther King"

I have a dream that one day this world will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all homin are created equal." I have a dream that one day on the hills of Fairhaven the sons of former homins left behind and the sons of former homins that were lucky enough to be rescued will be able to sit down together at a campfire of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day even the Matis, a state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my 64 little guildies will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin or the religion they follow but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

#105 Added by Daomei 5 years ago [de]

Mjollren (atys)

+5000 re: routing algorithm. Sucks getting stuck in every damn bush out there.

I agree. But mind that your mektoub does not run its own computer and client ;)

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